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Monthly Archives: September 2017

The Crowley and Dalys, Clients of McCarthys. Bantry Dealys/Dalys Possibly from East Galway. Dalys (Rhymers to McCarthys and O’Mahonys) to Dromnea Kilcrohane, under McCarthys held 36 Plouglands, Crowleys Sept of McDemotts, Roscommon later McCarthys, to Ballyounane, Caheragh.

30 Saturday Sep 2017

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The Crowley and Dalys, Clients of McCarthys. Bantry Dealys/Dalys Possibly from East Galway. Dalys (Rhymers to McCarthys and O’Mahonys) to Dromnea Kilcrohane, under McCarthys held 36 Plouglands, Crowleys Sept of McDemotts, Roscommon later McCarthys, to Ballyounane, Caheragh.

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Crowleys:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iqf2z6rejrSswLbM3Dr6qzRKSSL7ZPPtY0M7TT0ia3k/edit

The starting point:

Old Caheragh Church and Caheragh Poets in Irish, Na Baróidigh, (Seán, Seámus, Riocárd) Lissane, Donnacha, Muiris and Paul Ó h-Anngáin, Donnacha Ó Briain, Diarmuid Ó Crualaoich (Crowley), Mícheál Óg Ó Longáin (lived later Glanmire), Church Bell Provided by Patrick Rocky Mountain O’Brien of Dromore.  The old church was built by Fr. Dore, one of a number of Tipperary Priests seconded to the Dioceses of Cork. Father Dore appears as an elector for O’Connell/Roche in the 1841 election. It is believed that the church was built with stones from Ballyourane Castle formerly a McCarthy castle.

The Crowleys are a sub Sept of the McDermotts of Roscommon. DNA from the extended Crowley family of Balllyourane, Caheragh confirms links to families with names common in East Galway, Roscommon, Sligo and Mayo. Some time aground 1200 probably a relatively small number migrated to West Cork reputed mercenaries. They intermarried and increased and multiplied. The core Crowley area, according to names density is between Dunmanway and Bandon. The Caheragh branch is at the western extremity and the location of the old Mccarthy Castle in Balluourane, suggests they were clients of the McCarthys. The size of the Ballyourane holding, which in Lord Bandon tenure post 1710 one of the largest in the Baronies of Carbery would suggest an important branch.

‘Dr’ James and his brother Jerry Crowley were apothecaries (pharmacists) and did minor medical matters and were know as Doctors are likely of this line. James c 1805 married Rachel Evans of Lissangle, Caheragh. This is likely the same line as those of Ardagh, Aughadown. Her sister married one of the Haddens who probably originated in Wexford. Another sister married a McCarthy, another apothecary in Skibbereen. The Skibbereen Hadden line were Methodists, apothecaries later Doctors and surgeons in Ireland, UK and Australia. Dr. Jerry was the founder of The Phoenix Society and swore O’Donovan Rossa in as a member.

It is likely that the maverick priest Fr. Jeremiah Crowley was of the line. He was active as a curate in the Schull area in the 1880s was prosecuted for criminal defamation at the suit of a Protestant Minister and jailed. He was a folk hero. On his return from Cork Jail he had a frosty relationship with his Parish Priest. He left for the USA and became a Bible Banging Preacher denouncing the evils of the Church of Rome in the 1910s.

The Ballyourane Crowleys are linked by DNA to the Bechers, Jervois, Evans, Hull and Cox families as well as the Gosnells, Youngs, Williamsons some of those likely of Armagh weaving background. This would suggest Protestant maternal ancestors pre 1800.

Around 1850 the Durrus Estates formerly owned by the McCarthys returned to the control of Lord Bandon after the Evanson lease expired. Lord Bandon’s agents settled a number of families from other parts of the Western Bandon Estates in farms becoming vacant. The Western Bandon Estate was assembled  by purchase early 1700s by Francis Berard of Bandon a successful Dublin Lawyer. It contains at the Western end clusters of isolated townlands widely geographically dispersed.  One of the new tenants were a branch of the Ballyourane Crowleys, O’Mahonys from Ballyourane or Carrigmanus and a branch of the Dalys of Drumnea of Kilcrohane. These were significant moves as the lands were formerly rented to Protestant families. There are suggestions that each of these families had some kind of relationship with the Bandon Estate or were of senior lineage within their families in former times. Due to lack of documentary knowledge this is speculative.

 

Deaths Caheragh, probates indicate affluence:

 

1679 Owen Carthy Ballisrane or Balliorane (Ballinorane) Cork and Ross Wills 1584-1800
1693 Teige Mahony Caheragh Gent Dr. Casey, Vol 6.
1693 Teige Crowly Caheragh Farmer Dr. Casey Vol 6 1185

Dromnea Dalys

The family were enticed to Kilcrohane c 1300 by the McCarthys and awarded 36 ploughlands at a nominal rent. The family ran the Bardic school at Dromnea.  All was lost after 1641. However Donagh Daly a Gentleman appears in a Becher deed 1708. The was a Daly family late 18th early 19th century at Altar on the Mizen peninsula. They were Protestant as were quite a number. This family had the largest grave in Altar Churchyard and memorials in the Church. A son in the 1840 went to Cambridge, became a Minister in the Church of England and died young. These Dalys may have been middlemen under the Bechers. In 1820 a Daly ran a school at Sea Lodge in Durrus unusually this was under the patronage of Nathaniel Evanson. He may have been of the Dromnea line.

I am indebted to Michael Daley for pointing out that there is a confirmed genetic link between the Junior Kilcrohane Daly branch and (1) Daly family who document Bandon as the geographical origin of their late 18th and early 19th century ancestors.  

On the Kilcrohane Dalys, at this time, we accept the long held, documented view that the Dalys of Kilcrohane constitute an independent adoption of the Daly surname.  The up-to-date gathered evidence on this line of inquiry within the current Daly Surname Study supports this view.  

Bantry Dealys/Dalys

From Michael Daley.  The Finnyvara, Clare & East Galway Dalys share the same Y-DNA signature and we posit these Dalys were an original Teffia/Tethba branch of the Southern Ui Neill.  They did have a split in the early 18th century in which the Dunsandle branch assimilated the Established Church and disassociated with their Gaelic culture to maintain their land holdings.  And, indeed the Dalys who governed New Brunswick (Malachy Bowes Daly and others) were of this specific Dunsandle branch. In fact, anecdotally, they are responsible for the reference to the Miramichi River in NB as the local Shannon River, deep within the oral history of the area.    

And, it is somewhat accepted without examination that the Dealy Brig of Bantry would have been these Galway Dalys, but it is historically and genetically uncertain.  It is fact that they adopted the DEALY variation in pronunciation and English orthography while operating their line of work in the Bantry area.  But, this was entertained ONLY to distinguish their family origins from the local Dalys, not their allegiances.  So, they very well could have been Gaelic preserving and Catholic cousins of the Dunsandle Dalys of the fishery industry made aware of the human social/business need to be provided. Regardless, it is known, the Dealy Brig transported West Cork Irish to New Brunswick, including Dalys, and all of these transportees/famine emigrants from Cork highly unlikely to author the Miramichi/Shannon comparison.

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1560s Fiants:

https://durrushistory.com/2017/08/12/1560s-fiants-of-queen-elizabeth-1-of-england-with-west-cork-references-multiple-pardons-mccarthys-odriscolls-crowleysocrowleysdalysomahonysocullanescollins-for-rebels/

https://durrushistory.com/2015/02/16/1636-inquisition-on-death-of-donald-mccarthy-reagh-families-mentioned-dalys-crowleys-odriscolls-mccarthys-omahonys-areas-include-aughadown-caheragh-castlehaven-drimoleague-kilgariff-ki/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/01/09/dr-jerry-crowley-apothecary-north-st-skibbereen-possibly-originally-from-ballyourane-caheragh-west-cork-famine-relief-phoenix-club-swore-odonovan-rossa-in-as-member-extended-family-evans/

https://durrushistory.com/2015/10/18/cork-grand-jury-presentments-july-1697-that-cornelius-crowley-otherwise-maddery-of-skibbereen-owen-mcowen-sullivan-of-kilcaskin-all-irish-papists-have-taught-school-and-continue-to-do-so-contra/

Daly:

https://durrushistory.com/2017/06/01/1835-discovery-of-ruins-of-lost-school-at-sea-lodge-gearhameen-irish-gaortha-min-meaning-small-wooded-glen-durrus-west-cork-master-timothy-daly-aged-24-possibly-from-dromnea-kilcroh/

https://durrushistory.com/2017/04/06/dalys-of-kilcrohane-bards-reputed-educators-of-the-sons-of-the-king-of-spain-genetic-dna-link-to-bandon-co-cork-dalys-o-dalaigh-sliocht-2017/

https://durrushistory.com/2017/05/06/tudor-times-odaly-family-in-muinter-bairre-as-spelled-holding-36-ploughlands-from-maccarthy-reaghs-probably-free-from-duties-as-bards/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/08/06/1708-deed-and-feofment-donogh-daly-farnanmanagh-kilcrohane-west-cork-witness-owen-daly/
https://durrushistory.com/2016/04/08/records-of-south-west-cork-families-such-as-dalys-haggertys-swanton-jagoe-lannin-levis-dukelow-beamish-harrington-mahony-mccarthy-stout-kingston-raycroft-jennings-skuce-in-registers-of-2/

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Pension Enquiry Forms for Those Born Pre 1865, Baronies of Bantry and Bere, Carbery.

20 Wednesday Sep 2017

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1840.  Ballygurteen Fair, Dunmanway

16 Saturday Sep 2017

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1840.  Ballygurteen Fair, Dunmanway

 

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https://durrushistory.com/2016/07/24/sale-of-dunmanway-co-cork-lordship-of-manor-1858-including-tolls-of-ballygurteen-fair-patent-allows-3-per-year-2-held-1858-producing-30-per-annum-2/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/07/24/tolls-and-frequency-of-fairs-in-baronies-of-bantry-and-bere-and-west-carbery-9-fairs-skull-bantry-1843-4-fairs-from-a-grant-by-duke-of-devonshire-dunmanway-4-fairs-ballygurteen-clonakilty-6-fai/

https://durrushistory.com/2015/09/23/an-account-of-the-kilgariff-clonakilty-west-cork-eedy-family-to-clifton-and-bathurst-new-brunswick-canada-some-of-the-names-mentioned-knowles-bateman-beamish-french-morris-stanley-woulfe-c-2/

https://durrushistory.com/2015/01/21/from-harveys-jocular-medley-the-annual-fair-will-ne-held-on-the-13th-may-1738-at-donovans-leap-west-cork-now-called-tonsons-leap-in-west-carbery-affords-a-place-where-vast-numbers-of/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2013/04/30/teachers-of-baronies-of-east-and-west-carbery-bantry-and-bere-west-cork-1826/

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1616. XVI – 35, Patent 13, Grant from King James 1 of England to Sir Walter Coppinger, Esq., Cork City as Assignee of Sir James Semple, Co. Cork, In Barony of Carbery

13 Wednesday Sep 2017

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This is the Grant to Sir Walter Coppinger of the former McCarthy Cloghane lands mainly around Caheagh.  The McCarthys took a mortgage from Coppinger, defaulted and he went into possession.  He engaged in surrender and re grand and acquire title in 1616.  Unfortunately for him be backed the wrong horse in 1641 and the land was forfeit.  A large part became the Evans, Lord Carbery estate in the 18th century.

  1.  XVI – 35,Patent 13, Grant from King James 1 of England to Sir Walter Coppinger, Esq., Cork City as Assignee of Sir James Semple, Co. Cork, In Barony of Carbery, The Castle, Townland,  Cloghan, otherwise Cloghan-Igaragh 3 Ploughlands,  at Ballycomane (Durrus) Half or Two Thirds? Ploughland, at Ballyourane (Caheragh), 3 Ploughlands at Clonecuggir (Caheragh), Lishearhigh, otherwise Lishorierigh and Inshinecottagh, 3 Ploughlands, Cullinagh, Gortdromagh, Maulenebagalshie, and Clonkine, 3 Loughlands 3 Gneeves, Adergole Cloghbooley Dirrileigh and Shrilane 3 Ploughlands, Lisclaraghmore, Lisclaraghbeg and Corriboly, 3 Ploughlands, Marrahen, Lands of  Kilefane,  Kilecloghan, Maelodama, Ballytony, Cregg and Droumbeg, 2 Ploughlands and 9  Gneeves, Lands at Dirrinyvaldane otherwise Dirrinvalane, Glannyroweregh, Killineleigh, Rine, Ballyvirine, Meole otherwise Neoale, Cowrinowhoige or Cowricowhig, and Ballingeornigh, 6 Ploughlands and 2 Gneeves, Lands at Rinecoolcusky, 3 Plouglands Half of Island, Town and Lands At Inishdrisdriskell, 5 and 3 Quarter Ploughlands, Half of the Island or Town of East Inishcame, 5 and 3 Quarter Ploughland, Half of the town or ploughland of Lishenrie otherwise Lishirie 1 ploughland, Half of Rinenysinnagh half Ploughland, Half of Kilasartalaghta, or Kilflaragh otherwise Kilsarlaghtie 1 Ploughland in Colihbeg, half of Leighclone, Kiockcullen, and Moninefarny, 3 Ploughlands, Half of Rathquine, Half Ploughland, Half Ploughland of Letterskanlon otherwise Litterskanalane, 1 Ploughland, Half of Shronekineagh otherwise Shroneskinnch, Half of Rinmoroghow, Half of Moughneglough,  Each 1 Ploughland, Half of Moughnaghbane half Ploughland of Colhibeg, Half of the Half Ploughland Called Torke, Half of the Half Ploughland Pollenecally, Quarter of the Poughland of  Lyshinyeghtragh all in Colhibeg, in Rinegreny, 2 Ploughlands, lying in Clanloughlin, Cloghamore 2 Ploughlands at Clantiegellen; Towghmaiche, 7 Ploughlands in Clanlaughlin, Balliwholachan, otherwise Balliwolighan, Knockwiganiff otherwise Knockanenaganiffe and Garran-Igriskin otherwise Garrenenygriskine 2 Ploughlands, Half Poughland, Coolenevarnoge otherwise Coolenyfaninge 2 Gneeves in Kinenleigh and 2 Gneeves in Ballyvirnie in Glanrowragh Out of Knockrodan otherwise Knockridane, Out of 5 Gneeves of Creg, Knockanemore and 4 Gneevees of Drombegg, 6 Ploughlands of  Barraghvilly, out of Aghagwihine, Ballicomane (Durrus), Cahir (KIlcrohane?) in Muintervara out of Ballyvorrrow, out of Ardagh, out of Oldcourt, out of Ballienard out of Glanfoine, out of Farreneocwise, out of Ballinegornaghnegneagh out of Kilneasclashie Maelbrack Laeterdaly, Reagcame, Cloghbooly, Carran, Cloghanmore Lissancrow, Kilnagrough, Lands Barreaghvilly 6 Ploughlands, Lissan otherwise Lishane and Bohernibridagh 3 Ploughlands, Aghill, 3 Ploughlands, Inshnynynaawe of  Inshinynawe, Killebeg, Killenleagh (Caheragh), otherwise Killinenyleigh, Cowlefarnoge, Coolenevaroge,  Ballyvikrine, and Knockridane, 3 Ploughlands, Knockanmore and  Cregg 1 Ploughland, and 3 Gneeves, In Litteertinlis otherwise Littermelis (Letterickey?) and Courenesen otherwise Corrinskin Castle 1 and a Half Ploughlands, Smoran 1 Ploughland, Saving to Donnnell McCarthy then in Kings keeping all Rents Due to his Ancestors

Ploughlands, Seisreaghs or Carrows, Tates or Ballyboes, Sessiaghs, Gneeves and Acres. The following is a Table showing these divisions: — 10 acres = 1 Gneeve. 2 Gneeves = 1 Sessiagh. 3 Sessiaghs = 1 Tate or Ballyboe. 2 Ballyboes = 1 Ploughland, Seisreagh or Carrow (120 aacres). 4 Ploughlands = 1 Ballybetagh or Townland 30 Ballybetaghs = 1 Trioca cead or Barony.

Patent 13, James 1.

 

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1615. Patent 15 of King James 1 of England, David Meade to Sell Liquor in Carbery, and to James Roche and Richard Liquor Licenses at Crookhaven and Berehaven

12 Tuesday Sep 2017

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1615. Patent 15 of King James 1 of England, David Meade to Sell Liquor in Carbery, and to James Roche and Richard Liquor Licenses at Crookhaven and Berehaven.

Regulations made in 1735 Between The Owners of Seine Boats in Bantry Bay, Dispute to be Determined by Mr Nicholas Mead at His House ‘Spread Eagle’.  Presented to Fishery Enquiry 1836 by Mr. R. Young and 1749 Bounty from Royal Dublin Society to Mr. Meade and Young for Fish Landings at Bantry.

The reference to “Spread Eagle’ presumably a licensed premises.  The Meades were given: 1615. Patent 15 of King James 1 of England, David Meade to Sell Liquor in Carbery, and to James Roche and Richard Liquor Licenses at Crookhaven and Berehaven

 

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1825 Petition of 70 Named Protestant Parishioners of Caheragh Pray to have a new Church constructed

12 Tuesday Sep 2017

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Pre famine Caheragh had one of the highest rural population densities in the world.  The Protestant population was small.  Here perhaps not all signed, the Evans family of Lissangle, who were probably there are not signatories, perhaps they were Methodist.

Most of the Caheragh townlands appear early 17th century in surrender and re grants of the O’Donovans of Castledonovan and Sir Walter Coppinger (he mortgaged to the McCarthys and went into possession when they defaulted).  Their lands were forfeit for rebellion post 1641.

One of the complaints of the parishioners in that of a non-resident clergyman, who only appears once a year to collect tithes. The areas was the centre of anti tithe agitation in the 1820s.

https://durrushistory.com/2016/01/31/old-caheraagh-church-and-caheragh-poets-in-irish-na-baroidigh-sean-seamus-riocard-lissane-donnacha-muiris-and-paul-o-h-anngain-donnacha-o-briain-diarmuid-o-crualaoich-church-bell-provided-b/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2016/09/21/1601-reputed-ambush-and-massacre-of-osullivan-bere-troops-at-bishopsland-bridge-caheragh-west-cork-by-omahonys-returning-from-the-battle-of-kinsale/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2016/09/18/tomb-old-caheragh-graveyard-skibbereen-west-cork-of-timothy-mccarthy-downing-skibbereen-lawyer-landlord-mo-daughter-buried-died-aged-28-wife-of-captain-thomas-john-davys-justice-of-the-peace-lo/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2016/05/17/diarmuid-o-heigeartaigh-1856-1936-letter-caheragh-west-cork-teacher-scholar-author-of-tadhg-ciallmahar-re-18th-century-local-events-2/

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1825 Petition of 70 Named Protestant Parishioners of Caheragh Pray to have a new church constructed

Mr. Thomas Wood, Woodford, Near Skibbereen

 

Parishioners:

 

Thomas Wood Senior (Relatives still in West Cork)

John Snr. Wood

Thomas W. Wood

Amelia Wood

William Levis

William Ross

Mary B. Ross

Amelia Ross

Mary Ross

Elizabeth Ross

Tristam? Ross

Letitia Ross

John Jermyn

Ursula Baker (Bakers of Rossmore, Durrus and Rochester, New York, Canada reputed related to Jermyns)

David Jermyn

Elizabeth Jermyn

David Jermyn

Mary Jermyn

John Jermyn

Thomas Jermyn

Mary Jermyn

John Jermyn

Thomas Jermyn

Mary Jermyn

Invart?Jermyn

Jane Jermyn

Fanny Jermyn

Thomas Wood

Mary Wood

Richard Hitchcock (Hitchcocks alos in Durrus)

Mary Wood

William Taylor

Mary Taylor

Catherine Wood

Thomas Ross

William Ross

Gibbs Ross (Gibbs a common name in families in Caheragh, Drimoleague, Durrus and in Catholic branches)

Anne Ross

Richard Cue

Samuel Cue

Anne Cue

Rebeca Cue

Richard Talbert

William? Talbert

Evizea? Talbert

Samuel Talbert

Robert Talbert

Mary Cotter (Cotters of Danish origin, a branch migrated from East Cork 1640s)

James Cotter

Annie Cotter

Michael Cotter

Paul Kingston

Eliza Kingston

William Kingston

Mary Kingston

Alexander Roberts

Richard Roberts

John Roberts

Sara Roberts

Abigail Roberts

Henry Sweetnam

George Sweetnam

Mary Sweetnam

Anne Sweetnam

Saragh Sweetnam

Mathew Sweetnam (Mathew/Matthew a common name in family in Dunbeacon, Skibbereen, Drinagh)

Henry  Sweetnam

John Sweetnam

Mary Sweetnam

Anne Sweetnam

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CSO/RP/1825/245
TITLE: Petition of parishioners of the parish of Caheragh, County Cork, requesting aid be provided to build a parish church
SCOPE & CONTENT: Copy petition of the Protestant [Church of Ireland] parishioners of the parish of Caharagh [Caheragh], County Cork, to Richard Wellesley, 1st Marquis Wellesley, Lord Lieutenant, Dublin Castle, requesting aid be provided to build a parish church. States that Thomas Wood, one of their members, has agreed to supply a site for the proposed church at a reasonable cost, or alternatively that are agreeable to have a new building in the vicinity of the old graveyard. Remarks unlike their counterparts in neighbouring parishes, they have neither place of worship, resident clergyman or school; observes their rector, Reverend [John] Webb, only visits the parish once a year ‘for the purpose of Collecting his Tythes [tithes]’. Warns of the decline in religious observance and claims numbers of their community have ‘turned to mass and several have been buried without received Protestant burial’ rites. Complains that a number of applications for redress directed to the bishop of Cork and Ross [Thomas St Lawrence] have not received an answer, and asks that a reply to their memorial be sent to Thomas Wood Sr, Woodford, near Skibbereen, County Cork. Document signed by 70 parishioners with surnames Wood, Levis, Ross, Jermyn, Baker, Hitchcock, Taylor, Cue, Talbert, Cotter, Kingston, Roberts and Swetnam [Sweetman]. [Contains list of names not given in this description.]
EXTENT: 1 item; 3pp
DATE(S): c18 Mar 1825
DATE EARLY: 1825
DATE LATE: 1825
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1616.  Surrender and Regrant.  Patent of James 1 of England, Court of Pie Powder Reserved to Donnell O’Donovan for Fairs, Ascension Thursday and Townlands Listed from Castledonovan to Castlehaven, Caheragh, Glandore, Squince, Brahalish in Durrus. Manor of Castledonovan Power to Hold Court of Leet and Baron,  Friday Market at Rahine, Tuesday market at Drimoleague.

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1616.  Surrender and Regrant.  Patent of James 1 of England, Court of Pie Powder Reserved to Donnell O’Donovan for Fairs, Ascension Thursday and Townlands Listed from Castledonovan to Castlehaven, Caheragh, Glandore, Squince, Brahalish in Durrus. Manor of Castledonovan Power to Hold Court of Leet and Baron,  Friday Market at Rahine, Tuesday market at Drimoleague.

 

Under the old Gaelic system of land tenure the Chief at least in theory held the land in trust for the entire family.  Under the rolling English conquest they persuaded many to transfer their title to the English Crown and in return received title to them personally.  It is probably the case that the Gaelic system precluded long term development as it was not possible to borrow on the land and by not holding personally there was no incentive to improve.

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Prior to the confiscations and forfeitures post 1641 the O’Donovans were the largest Landowners in Carbery after the McCarthys.  One branch who converted to the Church of Ireland managed to retain a small estate at Bawnlahan, near Leap.  After the death of ‘The O’Donovan’ (Lieutenant-General O’Donovan), in the 1820s the Chieftainship passes to the branch in Cork at Ronaynes Court/Montpelier, The Rev. Morgan O’Donovan whose descendant is still in Skibbereen as The O’Donovan.

 

Manor of Castledonovan power to Hold Court of Leet Friday Market at Rahine, Tuesday market at Drimoleague.

 

Ploughlands, Seisreaghs or Carrows, Tates or Ballyboes, Sessiaghs, Gneeves and Acres. The following is a Table showing these divisions: — 10 acres = 1 Gneeve. 2 Gneeves = 1 Sessiagh. 3 Sessiaghs = 1 Tate or Ballyboe. 2 Ballyboes = 1 Ploughland, Seisreagh or Carrow (120 aacres). 4 Ploughlands = 1 Ballybetagh or Townland 30 Ballybetaghs = 1 Trioca cead or Barony.

 

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1858.  Sale of Lordship of Manor of Dunmanway (Town Charter 1693), The Purchaser will be Entitled as Lord of the Manor, To Hold  a Court of Pie Powder, To Adjudicate at Disputes Arising From Fairs.

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1858.  Sale of Lordship of Manor of Dunmanway, The Purchaser will be Entitled as Lord of the Manor, To Hold  Court of Pie Powder, To Adjudicate at Disputes Arising From fairs.

The Court of Pie Powder was a necessary adjunct to the fair, and was originally established for the purpose of settling all disputes arising therein.  It was a very summary court of justice as circumstances required it to be, for it was intended to arrange difficulties between parties who had come from distant places to attend the fair, and whose occupation of pedlars, or traveling merchants, required that immediate jurisdiction should in all cases be had. It was usual, therefore, for transgressors to be arrested, the cause tried, and judgment given in the space of one hour.

 

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https://durrushistory.com/2017/06/02/ancient-bawnlanan-fair-day-ascention-thursday/

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March 1798.  Rosscarbery, Drimoleague, Castletownbere, Select Vestries meeting to Levy a Rate to provide Four Men to Serve in  Militia and to Levy Seven  and a Half Pence Per Gneeve.  Further meeting August 1803 to levy £1-6-o per ploughland to raise 5 men for Militia and £5-13-9 on town of Rosscarbery. Cost of Levy for Cork City and County.

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March 1798.  Rosscarbery Select Vestry meeting to Levy a Rate to provide Four Men to Serve in  Militia and to Levy Seven  and a Half Pence Per Gneeve.

The Castletownbere Select Vestry met in 1793 and under the provisions of an Act of Parliament levied £6 on the parish for each man from the parish drawn  to serve in the militia.

At a Vestry legally summoned and held at Drimoleague Church on Tuesday the 22nd day of May 1798 It is unanimously agreed upon that the Sum of ten pounds four Shillings and ninepence Stg be Levied on the Inhabitants of said parish for raising Substitutes for the South Cork Militia at the rate of nine Shillings out of each and every Plowland in said parish & that the Church wardens of said parish be appointed to Collect the Same – Resolved Unanimously that the Thanks of this Parish be returned to the Right Honourable Lord Bantry for his kind Attention to us during the late Disturbances & that we Consider ourselves as Indebted Solely to his LordShip for the Restoration of Tranquility without having the Militia sent to live amongst us at free Quarters.

How do you define the word ‘gneeve?’  It is the twelfth part of a ploughland; and those ploughlands and gneeves vary in size. One Gneeve may be as large as twelve others. Some Gneeves do not exceed from four to five acres in extent. Other Gneeves have thirty acres on it, they are  let according to their value.

Gneeve?  It is the twelfth part of a ploughland; and those ploughlands and gneeves vary in size. One gneeve may  as large as twelve others. Some do not exceed from four to five acres in extent; others gneeves which has thirty acres on it : it is let according to its value or capacity to bear livestock (like in Irish féar dha bhó, grass of two cows).

The backdrop is the 1798 Rebellion of the United Irishmen.  There was an amount of latent support locally and two years earlier the French had Attempted a Major Landing in Bantry without Success.

Robert Swanton of Ballydehob was an active United Irishman, he fled to New York later becoming an Admiralty Judge. Surgeon O’Connor as Alexander McCarthy, Barrister of Bantry were convicted of United Irishmen offences adn transported to Australia.

The Vestry apart from its church functions was pivotal in administrative affairs, collecting the county cess with the Baronial Constable, road maintenance burying the indigent dead, care of foundlings of whom there were may.

This is from the records of Ross from 1680 which have survived, luckily the Minister ignored the command to deposit the books in the Public Records Office in 1920 for safety. If anyone wants them  e mail me at pat25a@gmail.com

https://durrushistory.com/2016/06/21/25801/

https://durrushistory.com/2017/05/04/1714-1841-unrest-in-barony-of-west-muskerry-co-cork-whiteboys-anti-tithe-agitation-war-of-independence-british-army-and-militia-deployments/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/08/15/marriage-settlement-1781-of-lieutenant-william-hamilton-blair-blairs-cove-durrus-his-majesties-city-of-cork-militia-to-helen-little-carrick-on-shannon-co-leitrim-2/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/01/24/bantry-protestant-militia-and-volunteers-1779-2/

 

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1403 Papal Dispensation for Donatus O’Driscoll as Parish Priest of Castlehaven, as Son of Priest and Unmarried Woman followed by his Son Cornelius who became Parish priest in 1447.  Papal Dispensation as both parents of Noble Birth.   1823.  Affray at Castlehaven Caused by Rev. Morritt’s Extraction of Tithes, Irish Speaking Magistrate Somerville Exhorting Calm, Poem to Commorate ‘Battle of Trá-la-Gough’ (Tralagough)

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1403 Papal Dispensation for Donatus O’Driscoll as Parish Priest of Castlehaven, as Son of Priest and Unmarried Woman followed by his Son Cornelius who became Parish priest in 1447.  Papal Dispensation as both parents of Noble Birth.   1823.  Affray at Castlehaven Caused by Rev. Morritt’s Extraction of Tithes, Irish Speaking Magistrate Somerville Exhorting Calm, Poem to Commorate ‘Battle of Trá-la-Gough’ (Tralagough)

https://durrushistory.com/2016/05/06/1823-inquest-into-affray-occasioned-by-the-rev-robert-morritt-rector-of-creagh-and-castlehaven-notorious-extraction-of-tithes-caused-at-castlehaven-west-cork-at-which-fatalities-occurred-sto/

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From Edith Somerville 1940 history of Somerville family.

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Thomas Somerville Esq. (1797-1882), Drishane House, Castletownsend, son of Thomas, m Harriett Townsend of Castle Townsend in 1822, d Richard Boyle Townsend (1756-1827). Pre 1830, listed 1835 Castlehaven.  Irish Speaking exhorted calm in notorious affray caused by Rev. Morritt tithe extraction.  Signed public declaration in Skibbereen to Alexander O’Driscoll on his removal as Magistrate 1835 with Lord Bantry, Simon White, John Puxley, Arthur Hutchins, Thomas Baldwin, Samuel Townsend Junior and Senior, Richard Townsend Senior, Rev. Alleyn Evanson, Timothy O’Donovan, Richard Townsend, Lyttleton Lyster. 1838, sitting Skibbereen, 1835, 1850. Presentment sessions East Division of West Carbery, Skibbereen 1845.  A Thomas Somerville at Bandon Brunswick Constitutional Club 1828,  Cork Spring Assizes 1863 High Sheriff  as Thomas, Drishane. 1828 application to Dublin Castle re gas supply for Skibbereen. involved with Richard Townsend, Castletownsend and James Redmond Barry, Glandore, in setting up Agricultural and Country Bank in Skibbereen, April 1835.  1835 Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland  1837.  Chairman Skibbereen Board of Guardians 35 years, 1848-81. Chairing Skibbereen 1847 distress meeting.  1847 distribution for Castletownsend of New England Relief Committee Famine Relief.   Small estate 450 acres. Grand father of Edith Somerville (1858-1949).

1823.  Affray at Castlehaven Caused by Rev. Morritt’s Extraction of Tithes, Iris Speaking Magistrate Somerville Exorting Calm, Poem to Commorate ‘Battle of Trá-la-Gough’, (Tralagough).

 

 

 

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1403 Papal Dispensation for Donatus O’Driscoll as Parish priest of Castlehaven, as Son of Priest and Unmarried Woman followed by his Son Corneliuswho became Parish priest in 1447.  Papal Dispensation as both parents of Noble Birth

 

 

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