1819. Society for the Promotion Education of the Poor 1819, Schools, West Cork


West Cork History

Society for the Promotion Education of the Poor 1819, Schools, West Cork

Society for the Promotion Education of the Poor 1819

https://durrushistory.com/2017/05/29/1808-report-of-the-commissioners-of-the-board-of-education-in-ireland-listing-schools-by-masters-and-pupils-protestant-and-catholic-dioceses-of-cork-and-ross/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/10/22/1868-return-of-church-education-society-schools-1868-co-cork/

https://books.google.ie/books?id=t3QWAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA2-PA85&lpg=RA2-PA85&dq=john+kirby+bantry&source=bl&ots=SoV4PMlkBE&sig=uFamEQyYVcvsxr9HUiVj4gIYxPQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=STn9U_RB6MXsBuLxgKgH&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=john%20kirby%20bantry&f=false

https://durrushistory.com/2016/04/11/progress-of-island-and-coast-society-proselytising-education-activities-in-west-cork-1853-bere-island-capaneel-muintervarra-doonore-roskeera-rooska-geahies-dunmanus-bay-then-irish-speaking-2/

Sea Lodge: Timothy Daly may be from Dromnea also part of Evanson Estate in Kilcrohane and was location of O’Daly Bardic School.  Ruins of school still extant just of Sheeps Head way from Durrus Court to Gearhameen, not the Sea Lodge on coast

1827 Recommended for Gratuity
School Number Location Teacher Numbers
706 Bantry Male J.B. Patterson 1828 John Lanktreee, Protestant, recommended Rev. Sadlier 1822 John Holmes 18 in 1822 recommended John Smith Esq.
708 Inch Cillertane John McGivern 71 Richard McGivern , 1828, 19 recommended Rev James McCheane
709 Female Eliza McGivern
712 Drimoleague Daniel Creane and Caffrey 80
Female Margaret Creane
715 Barrack of Skibbereen Robert Maguire 11
716 Ballydehob Mathew Ross, Protestant, 24 in 1822 73
717 Lemcon Robert Driscoll
718 Gortnagroch

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1611, Kinsale, A poor town ruined by the last rebellion.  One of the best harbours in the Kingdom.  Depends on fishing of pilchards, herring and hake which are taken in the Harbour.  1788 Kinsale fishermen built huts and cure their fish on Cape Clear and pay a smart rent (to Becher Estate).


1611, Kinsale, A poor town ruined by the last rebellion.  One of the best harbours in the Kingdom.  Depends on fishing of pilchards, herring and hake which are taken in the Harbour.

 

In turn this is from Cogan survey of Irish Customs and Excise.

 

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From Dr. Went’s history of Irish Fisheries:

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https://durrushistory.com/2018/04/04/1688-jurors-inquisition-ballinspittle-kinsale-initiated-by-mary-de-courcy-lady-kinsale-widow-of-patrick-to-recover-dower-jurors-john-cloghlan-couglan-john-how-thomas-dodgin-armi/

https://durrushistory.com/2018/03/26/from-1594-presentments-corporation-records-deeds-of-kinsale-naming-inhabitants-and-addresses/

https://durrushistory.com/2018/03/26/1715-common-place-bool-of-francis-hodder-catalogue-of-fruit-trees-planted-how-to-tell-the-age-of-a-horse-genealogical-information-of-hodder-roberts-families-in-bandon-kinsale-area-from-conn/

https://durrushistory.com/2018/03/26/from-1594-presentments-corporation-records-deeds-of-kinsale-naming-inhabitants-and-addresses/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2018/03/17/1686-education-accounts-of-jeany-hodder-kinsale-1833-commissioners-lyle-acheson-and-philip-fogarty-to-erect-bridge-over-river-bandon-at-ferry-opposite-ringrone/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2018/03/19/1822-local-fishery-committees-kinsale-clonakilty-glandore-baltimore-crookhaven-for-bantry-timothy-odonovan-j-p-odonovans-cove-durrus-michael-osullivan-rev-edward-jones-alcock/

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Will Dr. Teige McCarthy Rabach, (1664-1747), Callanan (Hereditary Physicians to McCarthy Reaghs) Relations, J.J. Callanan Poet, To My Nephews John and Richard Barrett, One British Shilling and No More for Their Disobedience to Me.


Will Dr. Teige McCarthy Rabach, (1664-1747), Callanan (Hereditary Physicians to McCarthy Reaghs) Relations, J.J. Callanan Poet, To My Nephews John and Richard Barrett, One British Shilling and No More for Their Disobedience to Me.

 

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MOST REV. TADHG (THADDEUS) MCCARTHY Deceased Parish Of Birth Kilbrittain Colleges Attended Irish College Toulouse Montpellier, France Appointments Bishop : 1727 – 1747 Bandon PP – 1725 Drimoleague PP : 1714. Bishop of Cork.  Notes. Known as McCarthy Rabach – also known as the McCarthy Reaghs. Born 1664. McCarthy was educated for the priesthood in France. He studied first at the Irish College in Toulouse where he graduated in arts and theology in 1695 and was tonsured in 1702. He took some courses in medicine in Montpellier in 1707.  n Cork, he lived sometimes (while not on the run) at Rawbuck’s Lane (now Eason’s Hill), off Shandon Street, which was named after him. Bishop McCarthy flaunted the penal code and built a chapel in his parish in 1730 on part of the site now occupied by the present Cathedral of St. Mary and St. Anne. It was described in the 1731 “The State of Popery” as a “large and sumptuous Mass-house”. It was popularly known as the “Bishop’s Chapel”. The foundation stone of the chapel bore the year 1730 and the bishop’s initials. This stone was inserted into the northern wall of the present building but was plastered over during extension work in the 1960s. St. Angela Bolster noted that it is located behind the 12th Station of the Cross

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacCarthy_Reagh

Date Of Death 20/8/1747 Place Of Death Cork. Place Of Burial Old Graveyard, St Mary’s, Shandon.

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Owen Callanan, executor and beneficiary:  1734, 1753, 1756, 1770 Died Owen Callanan 1734 subscriber to ‘An Essay on Epidemic Diseases’. 1755 daughter of eminent apothecary married Dr Haly. Left £10 sterling by Bishop Teige Mccarthy Rabach 1664-1747 both executors of is will. CALLANAN, OWEN, near South-gate, CORKE JOURNAL 1756 (CJ 4/3/1756) In ad JTC 1st August 1765 letting of two fields at the Lough ready to mow contact him or Cornelius Leary Realeigh near Macroom father Art Ó Laoighre outlaw. Died Callanan, James, Mr., Surgeon, son Mr. Owen, Apothecary – (HC 5/2/1770). Michael Callanan apothecary, 1787 acquiring property at South gate formerly occupied by Owen Callanan, apothecary from Bennets. 1753 witness to deed with Richard Franklin Doctor of Physic. Daughter isabella 1766, marries Eugene Sweeney Bookseller is father Eugene trustee William Power, apothecary. and newspaper printer (Cork Journal). Wife died near South Gate September 1758. Son James died January 1770 at his house near North Gate bridge. Daughter died May 1764. The Callnan family were hereditary physicians to the McCarthy Riabhach family. CJ 4/3/1756) – TO be let in the town of Youghall, from the 25th of March next or such term as shall be agreed, the house near the clock-gate, wherein Thomas Hough shoemaker lately dwelt. For particulars, enquire of Mrs. Catherine Roche, near said house, or Mr. Owen Callanan near South-gate, Corke. https://durrushistory.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/callnan-family-hereditary-physicians-to-the-mccarthy-riabhachs-1798-in-west-cork-dr-john-richard-elmore-owner-of-largest-linen-mill-in-munster-in-clonakilty-1820s-and-dr-william-and-albert-callnan/

Poet J.J. Callanan probably of same line:

 

https://durrushistory.com/2014/08/22/httpdurrushistory-wordpress-com20111008dr-john-odonovan-the-odaly-family-bards-muintervara-1852-extract/

https://durrushistory.com/2015/09/27/callanan-j-j-cork-city-at-lisbon-on-the-evening-of-the-19th-of-september-1829-mr-j-j-callanan-he-was-a-native-of-this-city-and-had-distinguished-himself-by-his-poetical-compositions-whic/

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Mathais Dunworth witness towill:

 

Type of deed Date of current deed 8 Feb 1737 Vol Page Memorial
L Date of earlier deed 92 184 64291
No Role(s) in earlier deed(s) Role in current deed(s) Family name Forename Place Occ or title A
A P1 WRIGHT Abraham of Cloyne, COR Gent
B P2 DAWLY Charles of City of Corke Gent A
C O Prev WHETCROFT Elizabeth of Cloyne, COR Widdow of D
D O Prev WHETCROFT Henry of Cloyne, COR Merchant. Husband of C. Deceased
E O Prev PURCELL Richard of Cloyne, COR Butter merchant
F O Adj MARMIX Henry of Cloyne, COR
G O Adj CREAGH Anthony of Cloyne, COR
H WD+WM DONWORTHY Mathias of City of Corke Merchant. A
I WD WRIGHT Dillon of Cloyne, COR Gent
J WM KENEFICK Richard of City of Corke Merchant. A
K SULLIVAN William of City of Corke Magistrate
L ALLEN John of City of Corke JP
M FULLER George of City of Corke JP
Abstract A demised to B property in Cloyne
MS Date registered 6th July 1738 Date abstract added 20131009

Abstract made by: Halifax

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David Bourk/Bourke Witness:

 

Type of deed Date of current deed 30 Jun 1742 Vol Page Memorial
ID Tripartite Date of earlier deed 108 170 75137
No Role(s) in earlier deed(s) Role in current deed(s) Family name Forename Place Occ or title A
A P1 KEARNEY Francis of Cork city Esq A
B P1 KEARNEY Mary orse ROCHE of wife of A
C P2 ASHE Jonathan of Cork city Merch
D P2 SARSFIELD Dominique of Dochloyne COR Esq
E grantee; L P3 HODDER Francis of Merch
F grantee; Life P3 STACK Edward of Shopkeeper
G gratee; Life P3 CAZALETIS Peter of Skinner
H gratee; Life P3 CHAPPELL Samuel of Carpenter
I gratee; Life P3 CHANDLEY Abigall of widow & relict of J; guardian of K
J CHANDLEY Samuel of Cork city; dec’d Apothecary
K Life P3 CHANDLEY John of son & heir of J minor
L Life HODDER Anne of daughter of E
M Life HODDER William of son of N
N HODDER William of late of Hodderfield (sic – Hoddersfield)
O ROCHE Francis of Esq
P Life STACK Sarah of wife of F
Q Life MEADE Richard of son of R
R MEADE William of Dean of Cork Rev.
S O RANFIELD John of Skinner
T Life CAZALETIS Peter of son of U
U CAZALETIS James of
V Life HOLMES William of
W O TAYLOR Francis of
X Life CHAPPELL Sarah of wife of H
Y Life NUNN Joshua of
Z Life NELSON John of
27 WD AHERN William of Cork city Esq
28 REG BENNETT George of
29 WD WM BOURK David of Cork city Gent
30 REG BRADSHAW of Ald’n, Mayor
31 WM CARY Thomas of Cork city Gent
32 REG SULLIVAN William of
Abstract Comment for person [A] :All earlier leases renewable for ever, whereas A&B in Trinity Term 1742 did levy fine on C&D, for all leases but not for the use of C&D
Person [E] :A&B unto E of parcel of ground in N liberty of Cork city on which there were several houses, for lives of EL&M at £13 ster
Person [F] :A&B to F plot of ground late in possession of O on which several houses were built, near Old Fort in S. Suburbs of Cork, for lives of FP& Q at £8
Person [G] :A&B to G of houses ground lately in possession of S, for lives of GT&V at £12 ster
Person [H] :A&B to H of front house in north west quarter of Cork city lately dwelt in by W, for lives of HX&Y at £24 ster
Person [I] :A&B unto J of front house, north side of Colemans Lane, with back house for lives of I K &Z at £23 ster
Person [J] :
Person [K] :A&B unto J of front house, north side of Colemans Lane, with back house for lives of I K &Z at £23 ster
Person [L] :A&B unto E of parcel of ground in N liberty of Cork city on which there were several houses, for lives of EL&M at £13 ster
Person [M] :A&B unto E of parcel of ground in N liberty of Cork city on which there were several houses, for lives of EL&M at £13 ster
Person [N] :
Person [O] :A&B to F plot of ground late in possession of O on which several houses were built, near Old Fort in S. Suburbs of Cork, for lives of FP& Q at £8
Person [P] :A&B to F plot of ground late in possession of O on which several houses were built, near Old Fort in S. Suburbs of Cork, for lives of FP& Q at £8
Person [Q] :A&B to F plot of ground late in possession of O on which several houses were built, near Old Fort in S. Suburbs of Cork, for lives of FP& Q at £8
Person [R] :
Person [S] :A&B to G of houses ground lately in possession of S, for lives of GT&V at £12 ster
Person [T] :A&B to G of houses ground lately in possession of S, for lives of GT&V at £12 ster
Person [U] :
Person [V] :A&B to G of houses ground lately in possession of S, for lives of GT&V at £12 ster
Person [W] :A&B to H of front house in north west quarter of Cork city lately dwelt in by W, for lives of HX&Y at £24 ster
Person [X] :A&B to H of front house in north west quarter of Cork city lately dwelt in by W, for lives of HX&Y at £24 ster
Person [Y] :A&B to H of front house in north west quarter of Cork city lately dwelt in by W, for lives of HX&Y at £24 ster
Person [Z] :A&B unto J of front house, north side of Colemans Lane, with back house for lives of I K &Z at £23 ster
Person [27] :
Person [28] :Justice present at Cork city 15Aug1742
Person [29] :
Person [30] :Justice present at Cork city 15Aug1742
Person [31] :
Person [32] :
MS Date registered 12Nov1742 Date abstract added 20120529

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Extracts From West Cork and its Story, Jeremiah O’Mahony, National Teacher, Castletown Kinneigh, 1949-1950.


 

Extracts From West Cork and its Story, Jeremiah O’Mahony, National Teacher, Castletown Kinneigh, 1949-1950.

Publishes in serial form in the Southern Star, later a book by the Kerryman.  The book was proofread by Padraig Ó Maidín (Paddy Madden), Cork County Librarian and John T. Collins, noted historian.

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1847.  James Mahony, Illustrated London News, Famine Shepperton Lakes, Skibbereen, Schull, Ballydehob


1847.  James Mahony, Illustrated London News, Famine Shepperton Lakes, Skibbereen, Schull, Ballydehob

https://books.google.ie/books?id=1dFCAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA118&lpg=PA118&dq=samuel+hutchinson+charleville+cork+1839&source=bl&ots=IUfVQu8wEb&sig=F7HgDljdn6KDXxNyZ9L10lKL-u8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk7ef42NndAhUINOwKHTwwC_s4ChDoATAAegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=cork&f=false

https://books.google.ie/books?id=1dFCAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA118&lpg=PA118&dq=samuel+hutchinson+charleville+cork+1839&source=bl&ots=IUfVQu8wEb&sig=F7HgDljdn6KDXxNyZ9L10lKL-u8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk7ef42NndAhUINOwKHTwwC_s4ChDoATAAegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=cork&f=false

 

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New Zealand, West Cork Links.


 

New Zealand, West Cork Links.

I was asked if it was ok to list the site with other Irish Genealogy sites in New Zealand.  There has been a noticeable spike in interest from there and also in posting at Academia.ie on Cork Magistrates, Grand Jury, Legal History.

These are a few New Zealand related items.

Emigration to Australia commenced early 19th century that to New Zealand some time later.

 

https://durrushistory.com/2016/04/25/1845-transcription-of-various-letters-from-john-henry-townsend-irelands-oldest-magistrate-durrus-west-cork-to-donald-mclean-esq-protector-of-aborigines-taranaki-new-zealand-togeth/

https://durrushistory.com/2016/03/04/west-cork-clergy-and-letter-from-fr-tim-mahony-brasher-new-york-october-1901-after-cork-visit-to-inchileela-caheragh-droumdeegy-coolmountain-ballyvilone-kilmurray-researching-his-lantryla/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2015/08/18/mortimer-mccarthy-kinsale-co-cork-died-new-zealand-1968-last-survivor-of-scotts-north-pole-expedition-and-his-nephew-denis-odonovan-died-1970-england-torpedoed-three-times/

 

https://durrushistory.com/2015/06/02/the-brooksbrookes-of-dromreagh-drom-riabhach-stripe-grey-ridge-durrus-west-cork-coming-early-19th-century-as-weavers-from-ryelands-raphoe-on-the-abercorn-estate-in-east-donegal-some-go-to-ne/

https://durrushistory.com/2014/04/21/rowland-robert-teape-davis-1809-1879-bantry-west-cork-new-zealand-labour-reformer-politician/

 

 

1851 Visitation Book West Cork, Church of Ireland parishes, Population 1834 and 1851, Schools, Parish Clerks Church Wardens.


1851 Visitation Book West Cork, Church of Ireland parishes, Population 1834 and 1851, Schools, Parish Clerks Church Wardens.

 

Updated:

 

1781, Bishop Mann Visitation of Church of Ireland Dioceses of Cork. Ref D121.1. 1827 Parliamentary Return of Vestries, 1851 Visitation

There is a dramatic fall in population in many of the parishes, the famine, emigration.  While some of the local Protestant were poor even the better off were vulnerable to famine fever.

The records are in the RCB Library in Dublin.  Unfortunately they do not allow digital photos so all the transcritin is in pencil so will need to be checked later.

The provision for education show a patchwork quilt of funding.   By the late 19th century most of the schools had entered the National School system.  It is likely that the curriculum and standard of teaching was poor in view of the financial pressures. In contrast to take an example Carrigboy (Durrus) National: school by the 1880s boys were offered bookkeeping, science, agriculture and girls domestic economy.  The school records there are all extant.

 

 

Kilgariff, Island and Desert (Clonakilty) Visitation 1851 John Hodgins £10 Church Education Society £5, incumbent £10 for schoolmaster £5 incumbent, £10 local, £6 Earl of Shannon, Infants Church Ed. Scy., £4, Subscriptions £9, Earl of Shannon £2, another part Church Ed Scy £13, local £5, W. B. Jones £2, local £9, 21 pupils. Boys 44, girls 45,infant 33. Knockcagha boys 14 girls 8 total 154. Becher Hungerford, Joseph Conroy William Bence Jones (1812-1882), B.L., Lisselane, Clonakilty, London Bar 1837. Attending Landlord Meeting Bandon Courthouse 1846, listed 1854, 1861, listed 1875-6. Subscribing £2 1851 to Clonakilty Infant School. Representative Church Body Library, Dublin
Records of the Dioceses of Cork, Cloyne and Ross. D. 12
1102 902 (-18%)

 

 

In Durrus and probably more areas the local leading citizens Catholic and Protestant petitioned in the 1820s for a non denominational National School.  However the Minister Alcock vetoed it so the local National Schools in effect became Catholic schools.

Here in some parishes the local provision was  a disaster, Abbeystrewey (Skibbereen) the school was funded by the Becher Estate.  That became insolvent was then was sold in the Landed Etates Court so there was no money to pay a teacher.

You can also discern the earlier activity of the vigorous proselytisers Spring on Cape Clear, Charles Donovan in Schull the Rev Fisher in Goleen, Crosthwaite in Durrus/Kilcrohane, O’Grady in Beara by the numbers of schools and children.

 

Mícheál Óg Ó Longáin (1766-1837), Irish Scribe, Scholar, Teacher, Patrons Henry J. Heard, Vicar General of the Church of Ireland Diocese of Ross. Heard commissioned copies of Fenian prose tales. Other patron Cork banker, James Roche. In 1824 the family moved to Murragh, near Bandon where Mícheál Óg took charge of a school. Whilst in the Bandon area he received several commissions for transcriptions.


Mícheál Óg Ó Longáin (1766-1837), Irish Scribe, Scholar, Teacher,  Patrons Henry J. Heard, Vicar General of the Church of Ireland Diocese of Ross.  Heard commissioned copies of Fenian prose tales. Other patron Cork banker, James Roche.  In 1824 the family moved to Murragh, near Bandon where Mícheál Óg took charge of a school. Whilst in the Bandon area he received several commissions for transcriptions.

Exhibition at the Royal irish Academy:

Mícheál Óg Ó Longáin (1766-1837), orphaned at the age of eight, ‘gan chuid, gan charaid’ (without family or friends), spent two years in East Carbery where he attended school; his schooling was interrupted to herd cows and carry out other farm tasks. Coming from a scribal tradition, he considered farm labouring beneath him and he returned to a hedge school at eighteen, studying mathematics and Latin.  Mícheál Óg’s earliest scribal work consisted of verse compiled for his own use when he was nineteen and is held by Maynooth University Library. He often worked at the house of Mícheál Ó Caoimh, poet and scribe, who described him as ‘A low-sized tawny fierce churl full of merriment, who leaps gracefully over the fence … who writes Irish perfectly

He had begun to work for patrons whose first language was English, one of whom was Henry J. Heard, Vicar General of the Church of Ireland Diocese of Ross.  Heard commissioned copies of Fenian prose tales. Other patron Cork banker, James Roche.

By 1823 the family was destitute and Ó Longáin’s sight was failing. In 1824 the family moved to Murragh, near Bandon where Mícheál Óg took charge of a school. Whilst in the Bandon area he received several commissions for transcriptions.

Royal Irish Academy:

https://www.ria.ie/scribing-ireland-o-longain-family-and-royal-irish-academy

 

Phoenitic version of Our Father in Irish, Murragh:  https://durrushistory.com/2014/03/10/phonetic-rendering-of-apostles-creed-in-irish-murragh-bandon-west-cork-1779-church-of-ireland-records/

 

1847, Irish Speaking Among Protestants in the Bandon Valley,  West Cork.

 

https://durrushistory.com/2017/11/27/1847-irish-speakingamong-protestants-in-the-bandon-valley/   

1781, Bishop Mann Visitation of Church of Ireland, Dioceses of Cork. Selected West Cork Parishes, Parish Clerks, Teachers, Churchwardens, 1699 Bishop Dives Downes Tour. 1827 Parliamentary Return of Vestries including Ross Dioceses.


1781, Bishop Mann Visitation of Church of Ireland, Dioceses of Cork. Selected Parishes, Parish Clerks, Teachers, Churchwardens.

The visitation book is in good condition but a few names are had to make out.

RCB Library, Dublin,

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library

Ref D121.1

1781, Bishop Mann Visitation of Church of Ireland Dioceses of Cork. Ref D121.1

 

With 1827 Parliamentary Return of Vestries, including Ross Dioceses:

1781, Bishop Mann Visitation of Church of Ireland Dioceses of Cork. Ref D121.1

 

 

 

Going on the names of some of the teachers they may have come from  hedge school background.  Some West Cork Teachers:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Eg1XT1Z9dnB0wf0B7dGZX_r85d8EwjnpBLxqCv0M9ck/edit?usp=drive_web&ouid=100968344231272482288

 

 

Bishop Dives Downes did a visitation in 1699/1700 much of which is reproduced in Maziere Brady’s History of the Dioceses by parish:

http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/history/bradysclericalandparochialrecords/

Other Cork Records:

D12 Cork Cloyne & Ross
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