1727 Deed Title to O’Donovan Estate Ardahill, Kilcrohane and Kilcrohane Townlands.

Probably originally the property of the College of Youghal may be associated wiht a small Norman settlement.

Party One:

William Hull, Leamcon, Schull

Party two:

Daniel Donovan, Gent., Dunmanway

Mary O’Donovan, Ardahill, Kilcrohane, widow  of Timothy O’Donovan

Three plowlands and a half Gerr…,  Faliane, Duncisss…,   Folicilly and Reenacapple (possibly  Doonour Foilakily Reenacappul), and its ancient mears dn bounds in parish of Kilcrohane, Barony of West Carbery, Cork for the term of 21 years to commence from the 1stday of May then next or whenever or whenever lease already given of this land might expireat or under the annual rent of £30 and two pairs of capons or 5 shillings in lieu 



Kilcrohane townlands


1727, Deed whereby Owen Lander of Kilpatrick, Schull to tend the house of William Hull, of Leamcon, Schull with Musick and to instruct William Hull to play on the Fiddle to the best of his endeavours.

1727, Deed whereby Owen Lander of Kilpatrick, Schull to tend the house of William Hull, of Leamcon, Schull with Musick and to instruct William Hull to play on the Fiddle to the best of his endeavours.

   Type of deedDate of current deed20 May 1727VolPageMemorial 
   LeaseDate of earlier deed19 Oct 1727609940069 
NoRole(s) in earlier deed(s)Role in current deed(s)Family nameForename PlaceOcc or titleA
AP1P1HULLWilliamofLimcon, COREsq 
BP2P2LANDEROwenofKillpatrick, CORFarmerA
C WDDONOVANElizabethofDownmanuss, CORSpinster 
D WDHULLRichardofLimcon, CORSon of A 
E WD WMDONOVANDanielofDownmanuss, CORGent 
F WDDONOVANMaryofDownmanuss, CORSpinster 
G WMWINSPEARERobertofFourmilewater, CORGent 
H REGMURRAYGeorgeofBantry, CORCommissioner 
I W REGWHITERichardofCo CorkJP 
J W REGDAVIESRichardofCo CorkJP 
AbstractComment for person [A] :lease amended to reduce the rent for “good services”
Person [B] :lands at Kilpatrick for 31 years
Person [C] : 
Person [D] : 
Person [E] : 
Person [F] : 
Person [G] : 
Person [H] : 
Person [I] : 
Person [J] : 
MS  Date registered8 Mar 1728 Date abstract added20201114 

Abstract made by: Roz McC


Abraham Watkins Esq, Cork Extensive Property Owner in Bandon, Will dated 12th July 1715, My Daughter Mary Watkins ‘Not to have one penny if she marries Darby Cartie the Fiddler’, Deed of 1718 between William Bailey, Ballinacolle, Myross, West Cork wherein Charles Stanton is to teach his daughter and four children dancing, jigs, hornpipes, minuets and country dances


Chief O’Neill, Christy Moore and music in West Cork and a mystery Beamish contribution to the Chief’s Collection.”The Píobaire Bán”, written by Tim O’Riordan- about the piper Peter Hagerty (Hegarty) of Caheragh parish.


Pipers and Fiddlers for Tenant Gala on Kerry Estates of the Earl of Bandon 1793.

Archive 2011 Posts

A few people r looking for old posts so here are some from 2011 clustered around themes


Administration, Census, Griffiths, Taxes, p.37

Griffith Valuation Durrus  District


Business ,p. 53

William Warner, Butter Merchant, Bantry, 1880s

Vickeries Hotel, Bantry, p.102

Church Records, p.56

Devotions to Father Barnane, 28th June Moulivard Church, Durrus

St. James, Durrus, Select Vestry, 1827.

Harry Clarke windows, p.61

Estates,  p.65

O’Donovan estates, Muintervara

McCarthy, 98

Famine, p. 81

Letter of Rev Crosthwaite, Rector, Durrus re Relief Works to The Times November 1846

Folklore, 88

1938, Sarah Dukelow, Clashadoo,


Irish Words in use 1930s Cork English and list of Irish phrases 19th century possibly Skibbereen/Bantry

Thomas Swanton, Ballydehob, Co Cork, Irish scholar, Antiquarian and Landlord 1810-1866 and nephew of Judge Robert Swanton of New York, Maritime Court and United Irishman.


Dublin Penny Journal, Journey to Durrus 1836, from Butler’s Gift (Drimoleague), West Cork, John Windle Cork Antiquarian and Father John Ryan, Drimoleague to the Rev. Alleyn Evanson.

Law, p.96

Manor Courts Ballydehob 1621, Bantry 1679, Co. Cork, and comments by John Jagoe, Bantry re the same to Commission 1836.

V. V. Gira 1894-1980, President of India, Law Student UCD, Dublin 1913-16

McCarthy Genealogy, p.98

Thomas Vickery, Bantry, 1808-1883, Hotel and Transport Pioneer in Irish Tourist Industry, Winter Sale of Horses and some Vickery Genealogy. p.98

Memoir, p.106

Recollections of James Stanley Vickery as a grandchild in Molloch, Durrus, Bantry (1829-1911)

Maps, Townlands, p.131

Chart of the South West Coast of Ireland, 1558, British Library.

View of Bantry Bay 1685, British Library.

A view of the Bay of Bantry c. 1700, British Library. 

Townland boundaries Durrus Civil Parish, photograph Danno Mahony in Irish Army 1933,

photo Richard Townsend Ireland’s oldest magistrate

Kilcrohane Townlands

West Cork Civil Parishes, 08, Saturday, Oct 2011

Neville Bath Map Co. Cork 1790s, p.143

Military Campaigns, p3

Carrigín Cool na h-Orna, Rossmore, Durrus, West Cork, a hint of Pre-famine Agriculture and other Incorporeal Hereditaments.

West Cork History


Coolnahorna (part of Upper Clashadoo/Gearhameen):


Carrigín Coolnahorna, Rossmore, Durrus, West Cork, a hint of Pre-famine Agriculture and other Incorporeal Hereditaments.

There is a rock on Mannions Island opposite Rossmore townland known as Carrigín Coolnahorna. It is so called as it marked the spot where farmers from Coolnahorna, in particular the O’Sullivan (late Con O’Sullivan) were entitled to take seaweed. Coolnahortna is not an official townland, it is in the North of Clashadoo upland on poor land. It was densely populated as evidenced by the addresses given in the Muintervara Catholic Church Birth Records 1818-1847, pre famine, now it is mostly used for sheep farming even the remains of the little cabins are gone.

Coolnahorna was not unique, other townlands had traditional entitlements to draw seaweeed from the shore, presumably individual farms has designated areas within that.

The use of seaweed and sea sand in the Peninsulas of West…

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On Tuesday morning [2nd], at St. Mary’s Shandon, Cork City, by the Rev. Dr. Quarry, Cornelius Callaghan, of the 3d Dragoon Guards, aged Nineteen, to Miss Jane Ford of Market St., aged Ninety-Three. Cork Constitution 4th March 1830.

West Cork History

Fortune, Susan. [Cork] city

On Tuesday morning [2nd], at St. Mary’s Shandon, Cork City, by the Rev. Dr. Quarry, Cornelius Callaghan, of the 3d Dragoon Guards, aged Nineteen, to Miss Jane Ford of Market St., aged Ninety-Three. Cork Constitution 4th March 1830.

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Flax Meitheals, (During US Civil War?) Dunbeacon, Durrus, Clothiers, Flax, Linen, Textiles, Weaving, West Cork.

 The word meitheal describes the old Irish tradition where people in rural communities gathered together on a neighbour’s farm to help save the hay or some other crop. Each person would help their neighbour who would in turn reciprocate. They acted as a team and everybody benefited in some way. This built up strong friendships and respect among those involved in the meitheal.

During US Civil War there was a huge boom in flax production in Ireland as cotton supplies wee cut off.


Clothiers, Flax, Linen, Textiles, Weaving, West Cork


1919 Public Meeting to have Telephone Trunk System Extended to Skibbereen.

1919 Public Meeting to have Telephone Trunk System Extended to Skibbereen.

When the Tribunal into to the Betelgeuse Disaster was held at the Westlodge Hotel in Bantry the reporters ahd to race to Drimoleague to queue at the payphone. This was as far as the automatic phone system went in 1990. The Bantry phone exchange was manual and a postal strike was on which lasted about 5 months so there was no phone coverage for the manual areas as well as no post.


The start of the Communication Revolution, Picture of ‘The Atlantic Telegraph Cable Fleet’ at Berehaven, Bantry Bay, 28th July 1866, held at Cable and Wireless Archive.


Opening of new automatic telephone exchange near Macroom, County Cork. Report shows the new automatic exchange, old switchboards, operators working a manual telephone exchange system. Interview Margaret Creedon manual exchange telephone operator. Interview Johnny Creedon, Postmaster, Macroom Manual Telephone Exchange. Johnny Creedon stamping letters by hand. The reporter is Tom MacSweeney.



1863.  Julius Reuter and William Siemens  and  the South-Western of Ireland Telegraph Company, Linking Cork to Crookhaven by Telegraph  and  British & Irish Magnetic Telegraph Company, Cork to Cape Clear 


1863, The Fibre Optic Broadband of the 1860s, Opening of Telegraph Office Skibbereen, Wires Extended to Baltimore and Submerged Cable to Sherkin. The American Intelligence will be Received Six Hours Sooner, Cork Market News to Be Received in Morning.


An Old Man Recounts: The First Time I visited Dunmanway c 1790, The Roads were Bad, My Sister and I were in Two Panniers at Each Side of A Horse My Mother on A Saddle in Between, Then Cars with Block Wheels Sawn of of a Thick Tree Bound Round With Iron, The They Got What They Called Scotch Cars With Spokes and Felloes at Opening of The Office of The Electric and International Telegraph Company, Dunmanway, Co. Cork, 1865. Messages from Cork, London and Crookhaven.


1914 Care of an Consumptive Patient, (T.B., Eitinn in Irish), Rosscarbery

This is from a history of Church of Ireland School at Curran.

Inclued is a note book of recipes gathered by Mary Isabella Kingston who was a teacher at Corran National School, Myross. Her father George taught at the school for 44 years. Her grandmother was Susan Hurley of Dunmanway daughter of Cornelius, Carrigscully. She attended a cooking course at the Convent of Mercy in Rosscarbery in 1914.

The school history was compiled by John Fitzgerald. Published by LuLu.com

TB raged through Ireland until the early 1950s. In the 1940s deaths hovered between 2,000 and 4,000 per year.

It has a long history in Ireland from Dineens Dictinary

Poverty and disease are inextricably linked. With little of a social welfare safety net, many people with active TB understandably hid symptoms and knowingly remained at large and at work in order to sustain their incomes for as long as they could. The behavioural shifts necessary to tackle community transmission could not occur with piecemeal and largely unenforced legislative efforts or in the absence of a range of financial supports.

The ground work for it eradication was laid by the States Chief Medical Officer Dr. James Deeny. He had been involved in ground breaking statical analysis in Lurgan documenting illness among poor weaver in Lurgan in the 1930s. He ws probably the only civil servant to fire a Reverent Mother. He was shocked at the appalling infant mortality statistics for the mother and baby home at Betsboro, Blackrock, Cork, and held the Reverend Mother responsible. He came under enormous pressure from Cork politicians of all parties to reverse his decision but refused to do do.

Unfortunately for him he was purged by Dr. Noel Browne when he came in as Minister for Health and went to Indonesia to work for the World Health Organisation

In the postwar era Deeny’s Mother and Child Scheme, attacked by the Catholic bishops of Ireland as socialist tampering with the family, caused the break-up of the first inter-party government of John A. Costello, in 1951.

Aged 50 Deeny began a new career with the World Health Organisation, carrying out tuberculosis surveys in Sri Lanka and Somalia, and producing a National Health plan for Indonesia. He became Chief of Senior Staff Training at WHO headquarters in Geneva, continuing to work after his retirement, writing the Fourth Report on the World Health Situation and acting as WHO’s first ombudsman.

The Wretched Life of an Early 19th Century Irish Cottier


Pre famine West Cork had one of the worlds largest rurl population density. Thee wee an enormou number of cottis. The Devon commission describes they horrendous condition in detail


Evidence to DEvon Commission Co.Clar



1849, Report of Henry J. Fawcett, Practical Instructor on Husbandry of Visit to Bantry, Kealkil, Dunmanway, Durrus, Kilcrohane, Agriculture Very Backward, Custom after taking a Corn Crop to Leave Land Fallow for 4 to 5 Years, Starving Horses, Pannier Tracks, need for Proper Roads, Ploughs A few Sticks Put Together With Pins Only Goes Down A Few Inches, Suggests Grain Crops, Drainage, Manuring, Proper Seed. Back Roads. No Shortage of Local Manures Huge Potential.



1947 Carbery Hunt, O’Connors of Manch

Carbery Hunt

Conner/Connor/O’Connor of Manch

Harry Dan O’Connor First Circuit Court Judge Cork City and County From Manch, Ballineen. Of old Connor/O’Connor line His son H. L. O’Connor, District Justice, North Cork South Kerry 1940s. A cousin, a Connor relative, was a judge in Iowa here in USA. He went to Ballineen and met H.L. Connor, the justice, but was unsure if we were related to him or not. He thought Justice H.L. Connor was a bit eccentric thanks again. Member Carbery Hunt 1947. Dublin Letter Southern Star, 15th November 1947.

Master of Hunt

1898, 1917, 1931, 1940, 1947 Patrick J. O’Driscoll Solicitor 1898, apprenticed to Patrick Joseph McCarthy From farming family Knockanreigh, 1901 has Irish. South Main St. District Council 1914 assentors to Peter Murphy, Cavendish Quay. Attending funeral 1933, Joseph Cullinane, Solicitor, Clonakilty. 1933 Dr. J.J.Hennessy, P.J.O’Driscoll, Solicitor, J. Neville, Solicitor settling difference between shareholders of Bandon Co-Op. 1932 involved in company trying to attract sugar beet factory to Bandon. Funeral 1941, Mrs. Rachel Wolfe nee Wood, Snugboro, Skibbereen, aged 95, mother of Jasper Wolfe, Solicitor buried Aughadown,. Southern Star 25th January 1941 1947 Master Carbery Hunt. “1937 Judge Calnan Later High Commissioner, India Funeral 1930 Mrs. Margaret nee Crowley, widow of Joseph Calnan, mineral water manufacturer and stout bottler, Kilmoyle,Bandon Her brother late Joseph Crowey, Chief Commissioner, Somerset House, London