Courtesy:  Dickson, David, Old World Colony, Cork and South Munster 1630-1830, Cork University Press, 2005

 

 

The Lost World of the Flemings of Oldcourt, Reenmurragha, Skibbereen, West Cork, Where, ‘All The Famous Horsemen Met..With Their Fowling Pieces..The Gentry of Rosscarbery Met.. Song in Lionel Fleming’s Book, Head or Harp.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/New+Court,+Co.+Cork/@51.5447325,-9.3378748,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4845a46cacaa1b69:0x07ec6fa5b4f74cc6

The Flemings as landlords had a mixed press some reviled others praised.

Lionel was brought up in Cork later he was a journalist on the Irish Times and later went to England.  The book as published in 1965.

Eliza (Dizzie) Townsend (Mrs. Lionel Fleming)

She was in  Ballydevlin, Goleen, West Cork towards the srart of the 19th Century, no roads, rooms lit by smokey candles made of mutton fat, a diet of cabbage, seaweed, mutton, salt ling, salted pork, pig’s head and crubeens, playing Handel and Mozart with the Rev O’Grady.

Until Richard Griffith completed the road from Skibbereen to Crookhaven in 1824 there was only a saddle path. When the road opened, for the first time, wheeled vehicles came to the western area.

Her Father was the Rev. Horace/Horatio Townsend, pre 1824, Derry, Rosscarbery, noted agriculturalist, 13 children of whom Dizzie married Lionel Fleming JP, Ballydevlin later Newcourt. Managed estates of Lord Shannon in Timoleague until his death. 1835 Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837.

The song he quotes was written by Mr. Carney whose family worked on the Estate.

Fleming Magistrates;

Becher Fleming (1760-1837), Pre 1831,  Oldcourt (Reenmorragh),  lived at Ballydevlin for a period, father 10 children including Lionel Fleming JP, Ballydevlin later Newcourt, m Judith Barbara (Dizzie) d Horace Townsend, JP, Derry.

Becher Lionel Fleming (1821-1889), 1865, 1865, 1874,  Oldcourt (Reenmorragh), Skibbereen, £160, m Elizabeth Reeves (who have O’Dempsey ancestry)

Lyonel Flemyng (Lionel Fleming) (1725-1803), 1778, Oldcourt (Reenmorragh), son of John, Skibbereen, m Martha Wren sister of Mrs Townsend of ‘The Point’, farmer, built Eldon Hotel, landlord.  Captain Carbery Vounteers 1777. Oldcourt owned by Bechers who sold to Tonson who let to Fleming.  His will describes him as being possessed of ‘the lands at Ballydevlin, Carrigocat, Clohananecullen, Kilbrown, Cloheanalid, Milleen, Skeanore, Thornhill, Kilmacaconage, Kilcrohane, and Windmill Hill in Skibbereen.’ It adds that he wishes to be buried: ‘in the tomb I erected in the parish church of Aghadown, and to be conveyed there by my tenants, each of whom is to receive a linen hat-band.” Fleming

Lionel John  Fleming-1869),  Oldcourt (Reenmorragh), Skibbereen, pre 1831, listed 1838, sitting Skibbereen 1850, 1861.  Probate £1, 400, 1869 to Becher L. Fleming, Oldcourt and

Rev .Horace Fleming, KIlnagross, Clonakilty.

Fleming Family History:

http://nycnuts.net/ancestors/fleming/contents/index.html

Eliza (Dizzie) Townsend (Mrs. Lionel Fleming), in Ballydevlin, Goleen, West Cork 1819, no roads, rooms lit by smokey candles made of mutton fat, a diet of cabbage, sea weed, mutton, salt ling, salted pork, pigs head and crubeens, playing Handel and Mozart with the Rev O’Grady.

Estate:

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/property-show.jsp?id=2606

Book 1965.

Subscribers  of 1766 ‘The History of the Irish Rebellion’, Cork, 1766:

 

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Subscribers of 1766 ‘The History of the Irish Rebellion’, Cork, 1766

 

 

 

History of the County and City of Cork, by Rev. Charles  Bernard Gibson, M.R.I.A., 1861.  West Cork Subscribers

 

Rev. C. B. Gibson’s The History Of The County And City Of Cork was published in two volumes in 1861. The first volume begins with an account of  the rivalry of the MacCarthy and O’Brien Gaelic clans, the 12th century Norman conquest and the creation of the Earldom of Desmond, centuries of Gaelic rebellion and the defeat of the Gaelic Irish at the Battle of Kinsale. The second volume covers the 17th century Civil War, the Cromwellian invasion, the Williamite Wars and the 1798 rebellion. The remainder of the second volume describes the government of the county Cork, its baronies and parishes, their histories, notable family dynasties and residences.

 

Subscribers:

History of the County of Cork, by C

 

 

 

 

 

Doctor Daniel Donovan, Subscription List of History of Carbery, 1876.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Donovan

 

https://wordpress.com/post/durrushistory.com/1173

 

For wider O’Donovan family:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eq_IayaxdUyWZWbpDf6LWlLNg7o-3tNJiqPGYIALy80/edit

 

Subscribers Dr. Daniel Donovan, History of Carbery 1876.

 

Subscription lists often yield hidden connection either or extended families of by placing people’s original birthplace.

Died aged 37.  Son of Dr. Daniel O’Donovan.  Public lecture 1867 on Madeira, Lisbon, Jamaica Skibbereen. Died typhus.  Doctor, Royal Navy, Daniel, jun, North street  1876.

There were two O’Donovan medical families in Skibbereen Daniel Senior and Junior originally Clonakilty probably descended maternally from Clonakilty Deasys.  The other Dr. Daniel one of three brother from O’Donovan’s Cove in Durrus all Magistrates and  Landlords in Durrus and Caheragh.

All part of a complex extended family, highly political succeeded in ending tithes in Muintervara early 1830s and electing kinsman Rickard Deasy as M.P. He was later baron Deasy of Dublin Superior Court.  All share  direct lineage or by marriage to Alexander O’Donovan, Squince, Skibbereen, who died 1785 extremely wealthy in fishing, land and possibly smuggling.

Ahern, Walter, Inspector of Post Office, (4 copies)

Ahern, J. M.D., Cork

Allan, Rev. James,Creagh, Skibbereen, (2 copies)

Allan, Frederick, Munster Bank, Cork

Attridge, Mrs. Arthur, Skibbereen

 

Barry, James Redmond, Leeson Villa, Dublin and Glandore (25 copies)

Bantry, Earl of Seaview House, Bantry, (2 copies)

Becher, J.J., J.P., Castle Hyde, Fermoy

Becher, Richard, Stonewall Park, Kent,

Becher, Richard, J.P., Bellydevane, Clonakilty

The Honourable Colonel Bernard, Coolmain House, Bandon

Burke Henry, D.L., Lota Park, Cor

J.W. Burke, Solicitor, Cork

Bull, J.R., Blackrock, Cork

Byrne, J., R.I.C. Nenagh, Co. Tipperary

Brougham, Rev. Henry, Johnstown, Co. Kilkenny

Brophy, J. Skibbereen

Beechinor, J.D., Skibbereen

Butler, Miss, Drimoleague

Barry, G., New Mill, Rosscarbery

Beamish, Thomas, Kilmaloda, Drimoleague

Beamish, Thomas, Lahana

Brien, Joseph, The Hotel, Dunmanway

 

Casey, Robert, Solicitor, Montpelier House, Dublin, (5 copies)

Clerke, Aubrey St. J.B.L., Lincoln’s Inns, London (2 copies)

Clerk, John, Via del Serragli, florence, (2 copies)

Cave, Arthur Oriel, Rosbrin Manor, Schull, (3 copies)

Cave, Charles, 13th Regiment,

Clarke, Charles, Skibbereen (2 copies)

Carson, Mrs. Coronea, Skibbereen (2 copies)

Carey, Richard, Munster Bank, Skibbereen

Coakley, William , Skibbereen

Collins, Miss, Skibbereen

Collins, Andrew, Skibbereen

Collins, Rev. D, P.P., Rath, Baltimore

Crowley, Rev. J., C.C., Caheragh

Cormack, Pierce, J.P., Lake View, Union Hall

 

Downing,McCarthy, M.P., D.L., Solicitor, Skibbereen, (5 copies)

Donovan, Rickard, Clerk of Crown (State Solicitor, first Catholic since 17th century), from Clonakilty, Crown Office, Cork, probably cousin of author. (2 copies)

Donovan, Florence, Somerfield House, Youghal

Donovan, John, Kilmountain, Castlemartyr

Donovan, Rev. Jeremiah,P.P., Aughadown, Skibbereen,

Donovan, John, Caheragh

Donovan, Daniel, Relieving Officer, Bantry

Dennehy, Mrs., Skibbereen

Downes,Thomas, Solicitor, Skibbereen (3 copies)

Donegan, Daniel, Solicitor, Cork

Deasy, REv. J. C.C., Union Hall

Denroche, James, Skibbereen

Downing, Francis, Solicitor, Killarney, may be brother of Skibbereen Solicitor

Dennehy, Henry, Very Rev., Canon, P.P., Kanturk

D’Ace, E.A.., Fermoy

Deasy, Miss, Ringmeen, Queenstown (Cobh)

Davis, Rev. Charles,C.C., Castletownsend, later involved in Baltimore Fishing Industry and Industrial School

1. Doherty, Solicitor, Bandon, family Land Agents to Lord Bandon

Eames, J. M.D., Eglinton Asylum, Cork

Emerson, Rev., Edward., B.D., Coolkilure, Dunmanway, Coolkelure Church. It was built in 1869 so he was the first rector.

 

Furlong, Mrs., Newcastle, Co. Tipperary (2 copies)

Finn, Rev., J. P.P., Newcastle, Co. Tipperary

Fitzmaurice, F.,Solicitor, Dunmanway

Ferguson, Robert, Q.C., Upper Mount St., Dublin, sometimes appears at Cork trials of period

French, Sampson, Cuskinny, (Cobh?), Co. Cork

Furlong, Mrs.J. Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford, may be related to one of the Furlongs, maiden name Evanson, Durrus

Fanin, Messrs and Co., Grafton St, Dublin probably medical suppliers

 

Hill, Rev. P. Administrator, C.C., Skibbereen, (3 copies)

Hadden, David, M.D., Skibbereen, (2 copies)

Hadden, David, Junior, M.D.,  

John Hadden, M.D. Lincolnshire

Hadden, Provincial Bank, Cork

Heas, P., M.D., (possibly O’Hea), Clonakilty

Harvey, J., M.D., Cork

Hely, John, Glenshelane, Waterford

Humphries, George, Glanmire, Cork

Hegarty, Rev., J,  SS Peter and Paul, Cork

Harris, B, Munster Nak, Mitchelstown

Henry, Michael, M.P., Kylemore castle, Co.Galway (2 Copies)

Hicks, J., M.D., Schull, Co.Cork, (2 copies)

Hutchins, Arthur, J.P, Bantry

Hayes, J., The Mill, Lurriga, Skibbereen

Hore, Mrs., Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford

Hungerford, B.B., J.P., Ballyrisard, Skibbereen

Hennessy, John, T.C., Skibbereen

Hennessy, Rev, C.., Sherkin

 

Johnston, J., M.D., 2, Park View, Cork (2 copies)

Jenkins, Mrs. Kinsale

Joyce, John, Cork

Jervois ,Sampson, Skibbereen (3 copies)

 

John Glasscott, Dublin Castle, (2 copies), mother Wexford Donovan, a Protestant sept of the O’Donovans originating in Carbery described by Dr. John O’Donovan as ‘rabid Orangemen”

 

Gallwey, Thomas, Glenbourne, Glanmire, Co. Cork, (4 copies)

Gallwey, Mrs., Kinsale, Co.Cork

Gallwey, Miss, Kinsale, Co. Cork

Gallwey, Denis, J.P., Greenfield, Clonakilty, Gallwey, Henry, Tramore, Co. Waterford

Gallwey, William, D.L., Tramore, Co. Waterford

Goodman, Rev. J., Glebe, Skibbereen, (2 copies), uilleann pipe player, Professor of Irish, T.C.D., native Irish speaker

Guns, Hugh, M.,  Newcastle West, Co. Limerick

Gillman, Mrs.The Retreat,Clonakilty

 

Keating, J., Hotel Cahir, Co. Tipperary

Kingston, Rev. P., C.C., Clonakilty, The Catholic Kingstons tended to be labourers/ working class – most likely the descendants of Kingstons that were disinherited when they ‘turned’. Not all, of course – there were a number of reasonably prosperous farmers from Drimoleague.

1. Kelleher, Clonakilty

 

Levis, Dr., Glenview, Skibbereen (2 copies)

Leader, Rev. T., Ballyclough, Mallow, (2 copies)

Leonard, J., M.D., North Earl St., Dublin

 

Newman, Henry, J.P., Betsboro, Skibbereen

Notter, Mrs.T. Skibbereen, descendants of German Palatine Protestants in Crookhaven c 1620

 

The O’Donovan, Lissard, Skibbereen (5 copies)

O’Connor, Denis, M.D., Camden Place, Cork, (5 copies)

O’Hea, Henry, B.L., Dublin (5 copies)

O’Hea, Right Rev. R.C. Bishop of Ross, Skibbereen, (5 copies)

O’Donovan, Miss, Leeson Villa, dublin

O’Keeffe, Rev., C., P.P., Drimolegue

O’Sullivan, REv., J., C.C., Rosscarbery

O’Regan, Rev., P., P.P., Schull (2 copies)

O’Brien, Rev. C.C., Skibbereen (2 copies)

O’Driscoll, Summer Hill, Cork, (2 copies)

O’Grady Standish, B.L., 1 Upper Pembroke St., Dublin

O’Donoghue, W. P., Dublin

O’Byrne, REv., W. S., O.S.A., Cork

O’Leary, Rev., J., C.C., Cape clear

O’Sullivan, Rev., D., C. C. Kilcoe

O’Hea, Mrs, Clonakilty

O’Donovan, J., M.D., Leinster Road, Kingstown, probably later Chairman Kingstown (Dun Laoghaire) U.D.C, plaque to him on Pavilion Theatre

O’Sullivan, S., M.D.,Camden Place, Cork

O’Grady, Rev., W.W., Rector, Drimoleague

O’Keeffe, J., M.D., Spike Island  Co. Cork (British Navy Base)

O’Sullivan, P. Ballymena, Co. Wexford

O’Connolly, Dr.James, Durrus, Bantry

O’Flaherty, Peter New Ross, Enniscorthy, co.Wexford

O’Shea, J., National Teacher, Drimoleague

O’Neill, Gorey, Co. Wexford

O’Callaghan, James, R.I.C., Drimoleague

O’Hea, P., Solicitor, Skibbereen

 

Prendergast, James, J.P., Ardfinna Castle, Co. Tipperary

Palmer, Elliott, Day Place, Tralee, (2 copies)

Philips, James, Bandon Arms Hotel, Durrus, Bantry, The Philips arrived in Durrus when Lord Bandon recovered estate from Evansons c 1850. One of the descendants Kathleen Dukelow gifted the village funds to build Philips Green community centre c 2005.

 

Reidy, Maurice, Castle Island, Co.Kerry

Robinson, George, J.P., Coronea, Skibbereen

Ronayne, J., M.P., Ring Ronain, Queenstown (Cobh)

Riordan, J. Brighton Villas, Cork, (2 copies)

Reordan, Mrs, Townsend St., Skibbereen

Riordan Thomas, B.L., Lower Mount St. Dublin

Raycroft (Roycroft), J., Townsend St., Skibbereen

 

Somerville, Colonel J.P., Castletownshend, Co, Cork

Somerville,James, M.D., Union Hall, Cork

Somerville, D.A., Ballincollig, Co. Cork

Somerville, Thomas, J.P., The Prairie, Schull

Sullivan, A.M., M.P., Dublin, (3 copies) one of political ‘Bantry Gang’ with Tim Healy, William Martin Murphy

Sullivan, D. B., B.L., dublin

St. Lawrence, Mrs, Castletownsend (2 copies)]

Starkie, William, Resident Magistrate Queenstown

Swanton, Robert, Ballybawn, Ballydehob

Swanton, James Hutchinson, probably Carrisbrook House, Pembroke Road, Dublin.  Leading Skibbereen Methodist owner Rineen Mills, mines with McNamaras, shipping, major land owner

Sheehy,M., Junior, Skibbereen

Sheehy,T, The Square,  Skibbereen

Sheehan, Miss, Post Office, leap

Starkey, William, M.D., Dublin, family probably from Rosscarbery

Stokes, William Day, J.P., Tralee, Co. Kerry probably descendant of Judge Day 18th century Judge from Tralee

Sweney, Owen, Fareen conner, Castletownsend

Shipsey, J,., Cape Clear, probably of Catholic branch of an original Quaker family

Sullivan, J. Poor Law Guardian, Union Hall

Sheehan, Very Rev., Canon, p.p., Bantry

 

Townsend, John, J.P., Glandore

Troy, Rev., R., P.P., Castletownsend

Thacker, J., Molesworth Place, Dublin, possibly Joseph Thacker was an Anglican priest in the nineteenth century, most notably Archdeacon of Ossory from 1860[1] until his death in 1883.[2]

Taylor, Mrs. Greenmount, Skibbereen

 

Waldo, Edward, M., Stonewall Park, Kent, (Becher relation?)

Walter, Henry, St. George’s hall, Liverpool

Wilson, Dr., Lower Baggot., St, Dublin

Wright, George, B.L., Lower Baggot St., may be from Clonakilty legal and landlord family

Wright, Henry, Solicitor, Clonakilty

Wade, Robert, M.D., Great Brunswick St., Dublin

Welply, Upton House, Upton, (2 copies) Most West Cork Welplys are McCarthy names and religion changed to inherit lands.

Wise, Charles, Rochestown, Co. Tipperary

Walsh, John, Roosogh, Skibbereen, (2 copies)

Walsh, J, Loriga, Skibbereen, (2 copies)

 

Original Publication 1876 republished Tower Books, Cork c 1970s

 

 

 

 

 

West Cork Railway Dunmanway, 1951.

 

Emanuel Hutchins, Cregane Castle, Co. Limerick (of Bantry family)  Plea for Clemency for  Bantry United Irishmen Men, letter 11th August 1799, to The Lord Lieutenant for Bantrymen, Doctor Bryan O’Connor and  Attorney,  Florence McCarthy.  This was against Transportation to Botany Bay.

The O’Connor maybe of a Land Owning, Merchant family.   One married John Jagoe of Bantry who was a fish merchant, later fishery inspector.  Their son John was a barrister defending evicted tenants in Bantry, in the 1840s.   Their daughter married Patrick Desmond, Attorney , Bantry, who were the parents of Sister Beningus, a pioneer of women’s education in Townsville, Australia.

From Memoir of Sir Cosmo Haskard :

Quoted in p. 18, O’Hea O’Keeffe, Jane, Voices from the Great House Cork and Kerry, Mercier Press, 2013.

Slow Train 1913, Bantry to Cork, in 1920s 1st and 3rd class, No 2nd, The Hutchins of Ardnagashel, Thomas Hutchins, Tenant Kenmare Estate, Paid by British Admiralty for Press Ganging Beara Men, for British Navy, 1742.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Ardnagashel,+Co.+Cork/@51.7244022,-9.4829511,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48450c821a77af35:0xeac6b9cb3b4781d7

Slow Train 1913, Bantry to Cork, in 1920s 1st and 3rd class, No 2nd, The Hutchins of Ardnagashel, Thomas Hutchins, Tenant Kenmare Estate, Paid by British Admiralty for Press Ganging Beara Men,  for British Navy,  1742.

There were a number of different Hutchins houses in the Bantry/Beara area.

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Train:

Ripening Grapes in the Open Air in Bantry pre 1832, Mr. Kenny, Mr.Tuckey of Bantry, the late Mrs Taylor East of Bantry Mr Hutchins of Adnagashel near Glengariff

Thomas Hutchins, Tenant Kenmare Estate Paid by British Admiralty for Press Ganging Beara Men,  for British Navy,  1742.

Thomas Hutchins, Bantry, West Cork, being paid for Impressing Beara Seamen for British Royal Navy 1746.

Some Rent receipts, Kenmare Estate 1741-46, Bantry Beara Area, William Sullivan, Florence Sullivan, Rev. Thomas Miller, Mort Sullivan, Gilbert Mellifont Donemark, Michael Murphy Newtown and Mills, Beversham Harman Laheran, Patrick Galwey Gurteenroe, Daniel Cronin Gortdarrug Cooloum, Thomas Hutchins Ballylickey, John Riordan Ballylickey, Patrick Minihane Donemark, Richard Tobin Mills Donemark, Ards Coomleigh, Denis Leary, John Harman.

Emanuel Hutchins, Cregane Castle, Co. Limerick (of Bantry family)  Plea for Clemency for  Bantry United Irishmen, Men letter 11th August 1799, to The Lord Lieutenant for Doctor Bryan O’Connor and  Attorney,  Florence McCarthy.  This was against Transportation to Botany Bay, Australia.

Hutchins Magistrates, ancestors of Sir Cosmo Haskard :

Arthur Hutchins, Pre 1831, Ardnagashel, Bantry?, listed 1838 , may be Arthur d 1836, m Matilda, d John O’Donnell Esq., Erris, Co. Mayo, probate to son Robert.

Arthur Hutchins, 1855, Ballylickey, Bantry, Resident, £60

Richard Hutchins,1686, Bantry, served in Irish Confederate Wars 1641-1853 under son of Richard Boyle, 1st Earl Orrery, Roger Boyle, Baron Broghill and appointed Poll Tax Commissioner and acquired former O’Sullivan lands.

Thomas Hutchins, 1776, Ballylickey, Bantry.

Samuel Newburgh Hutchins -1915), 1875, Fortlands, Charleville, and Ardngashel, Bantry, Resident, £408, succeeded on death of his brother Emanuel.  He had been in the Australian Mounted Police during Gold Rush.  Married 1875  Marianne Isabella Harrison of Castle Harrison, Charleville. Son Captain Richard Hutchins killed WW1 Royal Munster Fusiliers.

Samuel Hutchins, listed 1838, Ardnagashel, Bantry, Estate passed to him on death of younger brother Emanuel in 1839,  Brother of botanic artist Ellen Hutchins.  Set up a soup kitchen during Famine.  Extensive property throughout Co. Cork, sitting Bantry, and Castletown North Cork, 1835, Castletownbere 1839, Buttevant 1846 succeeded by his son Emanuel later by another son Samuel Newburgh.

Sir Cosmo Haskard Recollection: