Some Church of Ireland and Methodist Marriages, Bantry, West Cork from 1610.


 

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Some Church of Ireland and Methodist Marriages Bantry, West Cork from 1610.

 

 

 

 

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Some Burials from 1612, Bantry West Cork, Old Catholic, Church of Ireland, Methodist.

 

 

 

 

 

-Bantry (Kilmocomogue), 14th March 2017, From 1610, some Church of Ireland, Methodist Marriages

1891, An unfortunate dispute between the local Scutch Mill owners as to the relative claims of Clonakilty, Dunmanway or Ballineen, West Cork to have a flax market was the means of preventing northern buyers attending the Southern markets and Flax growing in Ireland generally.


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1891, An unfortunate dispute between the local Scutch Mill owners as to the relative claims of Clonakilty, Dunmanway or Ballineen, West Cork to have a flax market was the means of preventing northern buyers attending the Southern markets and Flax growing in Ireland generally.

During World War 2 the Northern Buyers returned to West Cork.

Courtesy Four Courts Press, 2008.

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1934 Debate in Dáil (Irish Parliament) on Flax Bill, Deputy Thomas Hales, Fianna Fáil, Bandon ‘West Cork is isolated. It is no man’s land as far as industries go. It is too far away and too far out of the world. It must be remembered that flax must have a poor soil and that the land that is suitable for the growing of wheat or beet may not be suitable for the growing of flax. Flax does absorb an enormous amount of potash out of the land, but generally, in speaking of poor land, I have seen cliffs where flax can be grown. Deputy Timothy Joseph O’Donovan, Fine Gael ‘In times gone by, when an alien Government was here, when there was a slump in the linen trade, they compelled the clergymen, in order to encourage the development of the Irish linen trade, to wear linen surplices and cypresses at funerals and church services generally. That was, at that time, a great incentive to the development of the Irish linen industry, and if our Government were to go on these lines and to do something similar, they would help to bring back one of our oldest and one of our greatest industries, an industry that would give a great deal of employment.


 

1934 Debate in Dáil (Irish Parliament) on Flax Bill, Deputy Thomas Hales, Fianna Fáil, Bandon ‘West Cork is isolated. It is no man’s land as far as industries go. It is too far away and too far out of the world. It must be remembered that flax must have a poor soil and that the land that is suitable for the growing of wheat or beet may not be suitable for the growing of flax. Flax does absorb an enormous amount of potash out of the land, but generally, in speaking of poor land, I have seen cliffs where flax can be grown.  Deputy  Timothy Joseph O’Donovan, Fine Gael ‘In times gone by, when an alien Government was here, when there was a slump in the linen trade, they compelled the clergymen, in order to encourage the development of the Irish linen trade, to wear linen surplices and cypresses at funerals and church services generally. That was, at that time, a great incentive to the development of the Irish linen industry, and if our Government were to go on these lines and to do something similar, they would help to bring back one of our oldest and one of our greatest industries, an industry that would give a great deal of employment.

A glimpse of the 18th and early 19th century Linen/Flax Industry in Durrus and Schull, West Cork, from the Lost Census of 1766, 1821, 1841, 1851, with names Cole, Croston, Webb, Whitley, Johnson. 1836 Evidence of Father John Kelleher (Early Statistician) and Reverend Edward John Alcock both Durrus to Poor Laws (Ireland) relating to Spinning in Area.

Flax Growing in West Cork.

1869, Skibbereen, West Cork, Becher Scutching Mill being Extended, for Scutching, Wool Carding, Cutting Furze, Hay, Oats, Wheel for Sale, Drinagh Mill ‘a Little of Repair’ Fine Water Power Suitable for Flax

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1891, An unfortunate dispute between the local Scutch Mill owners as to the relative claims of Clonakilty, Dunmanway or Ballineen, West Cork to have a flax market was the means of preventing northern buyers attending the Southern markets and Flax growing in Ireland generally.

Flax Growing in West Cork.

Mr. Thomas Hales

(05/03/1892 – 29/04/1966)

Party: Fianna_Fáil (Fianna_Fáil members of the 8th Dáil)
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Defeated in the 1937 election.

Mr. Timothy Joseph O’Donovan

(04/04/1881 – 28/06/1957)

Profession: Farmer
Party: Cathaoirleach (Cathaoirleach members of the 6th Seanad)
Details

Defeated in 1944 election
Seanad – Leas-Chathaoirleach 25 October 1944
Seanad – Cathaoirleach 21 April 1948
Seanad – Leas-Chathaoirleach 7 November 1951
Died 1951

 

 

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Laurence Sulivan 1713-1786, Cork Born, Kinsman of Benjamin Sullivan Crown Attorney for Cork City and Co. Cork Chairman of The East India Company and M.P.


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In a recent book, Guardian of the East India Company: The Life of Laurence Sulivan
By George K. McGilvary, the possible Cork origins of Laurence Sulivan are explored. Google Books provides an extract showing the various links.
http://books.google.ie/books?

In one of the books on Sullivan it is suggested that he was an illegitimate older brother to Benjamin Sullivan. It also suggests that his Christian name Laurence (Larry) is the English version of the Irish Leabhrás, a common name in the O’Sullivan Bere family.

Benjamin Sullivan (1720-76( was a State Attorneys for Cork City and County in the early 18th century and he was described as a ‘Kinsman’ to them. His father was Philip and his mother was an Irwin described as a Presbyterian, he was born in the Parish of St. . Two of Benjamin’s sons went to India, his influence did them no harm (is fearr focal sa Chúirt…

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Bill McGowan the Man who Bust AT&T


http://video.wttw.com/video/1949293907/

 

McGowan features towards the end of  “The Idea Factory: Bell Labs and the Great Age of American Innovation” by Jon Gertner.  Interestingly in Ball Labs some of the most senior personnel Kelly, Buckley possibly Shannon came from irish American backgrounds.  He as a minnow used lawyers to break the iron grip of AT&T aided by state lawyers had been trying to break the monopoly for always 100 years.  Most lawyers act in the first instance for their clients then they try and ensure they are paid.  In many there is a residual interest in the public good or maintaining the rule of law.

 

1850. The Forgotten Court and Legal System, Cork Church of Ireland Consistory Court.


1850.  The Forgotten Court and Legal System, Cork Church of Ireland Consistory Court.

The origin of the Court probably go back to Norman times with the Church of Ireland as the successor as State Church until Disestablishment in 1871.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Church_Act_1869

Functions such as Matrimonial (Divorce was possible) and probate, marriage were administered.

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1710, List of the CLAIMS as they are ENTERED with the TRUSTEES at CHICHESTER HOUSE on COLLEGE GREEN DUBLIN, for Baronies of West Carbery Bantry and Bere including Baltimore, Sherkin, Clonee, Durrus, Reendonegan, Bantry.


 

1710, List of the CLAIMS as they are ENTERED with the TRUSTEES at CHICHESTER HOUSE on COLLEGE GREEN DUBLIN, for Baronies of West Carbery Bantry and Bere including Baltimore, Sherkin, Clonee, Durrus, Reendonegan, Bantry.

This was part of the appeal process for those whe lands were forfeit for rebellion from 1641 and after.  Some of the appeals were successful as the Browns (earls of Kenmare one of the few catholic families to retain their lands during the Penal Laws.

Chichester House was build on the site of a suppressed nunnery and was later demolished to make way for the Irish Parliament.  In turn this was abolished in 1800 and the building now houses the bank of Ireland.

It is estimated that a very large portion of legal business in Dublin 1700-1730 was taken up with such claims at Chichester House adn in the 4 Courts then located in the area.Christchurch Cathedral.Because of the Penal Laws Catholics could only practice if they became members of the Church of Ireland.  Most did but they were regarded with suspicion as ‘crypto-Catholics.  A common complaint was that their affluent wives has chapels in the houses dn priests calling.  One of them famously said ‘I would rather leave my soul to God than my land to the Laws of Ireland’

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Lost Landmark


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Photo 97It’s a sad thing to lose an iconic landmark. You know the kind I mean – the one that’s in every photo of the place, the one that helps to define it, the instantly recognisable image. In the case of West Cork, that would include the Mizen Bridge, the Galley Head Lighthouse, Ballydehob’s Twelve Arch Bridge, the castles at Three Castle Head, Bantry House, the Baltimore Beacon and of course the Fastnet Rock.

The morning after the lightening strike

The Cappaghglass Mine Chimney the morning after the lightning strike

But we used to have another one, until it was hit by lightning and came down in 2002, 15 years ago this month. The mine chimney at Cappaghglass stood tall on the crest of the hill, visible for miles around from Mount Gabriel to Cape Clear, from Long Island to Baltimore.

View from magazine

I don’t know the origin of this drawing. It’s a view of both mine captain houses…

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Some Burials from 1612, Bantry West Cork, Old Catholic, Church of Ireland, Methodist.


Some Burials from 1612, Bantry West Cork, Old Catholic, Church of Ireland, Methodist.

This is a mere snapshot in the absence or destruction of records.  For deaths post 1865 this can be viewed online at irishgenealogy.ie for free by Bantry Registration District.  I cannot say if the more detailed records are online but the original registers give the cause of death occupation address and the name of informant who is often a relative.

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