1780, West Cork Subscribers to John Fitzgerald’s Cork Remembrancer

 

 

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1780. Subscribers to John Fitzgerald’s Cork Remembrancer

 

Most of the subscribers do not have a homeplace allocated, this is an educated guess for many

 

Bandon

 

Francis Bernard Beamish, Esq.,

Bernard Blake

Joshua Connor

Francis Cottrell

Bartholomew Donovan, Kinneagh

Thomas Richard Fuller, Ensign 68th Regiment

John Heard Esq., Bandon

John Lapp, Esq., Bandon?

James Galway

John Garvin

Herbert Gilman, Esq. Oldpark near Bandon

Matthew Gilman

Richard Gilman, Esq.

John Hawkes, Esq., Surmount

John Hornibrook

Thomas Hornibrook

George Oliffe (10 copies)

Robert Oliffe

Alcock Ottley

John Swanton

James Sweeny

Thomas Vearin (Varian?)

John Wright, Ballihineen (Ballineen?)

 

Bantry

 

Richard Blair. Esq.

possibly Blairs Cove

John Blatchford, Senior

John Blatchford, Junior

Thomas Clarke

Isaac Dowe

John Hoskins

Captain Benjamin Hutchins

Michael Lyne, possibly Beara

John Lyne, Possibly Beara

Thomas Lyne, possibly Bera

John Bird John

John Murphy, Esq., Newtown

John Bird Nicholas

1. Bird Nicholas

William Pattison

R(oger?) Sullivan, Glengariff

John Young Robert

Thomas Young Robert

 

Clonakilty

 

Thomas Alleyn, Esq., (Ballydivane?)

 

Courtmacsherry

 

John Travers

Thomas Travers,

Walter Travers, Esq., (2 sets), Sheriff Cork, 1762

 

Dunmanway

 

Barnabas Deane

Abraham Jagoe

Rev. Arthur O’Leary, Capuchin essayist born Acres, Dunmanway

 

Kinsale

 

Robert Bullen Esq.,

Michael Daly

Samuel Doniclift, KInsale Volunteers

Lieutenant Thomas Dunne, Kinsale Volunteers

Laurence Hayden

James Kearney, Esq. Garretstown?

Arthur Keeffe

Daniel Keeffe

John Lane

William Mahony

Robert Phelan

Rev. Ulick Sheehy, Timoleague

Adam Murray Stewart, (2 copies)

Hans Stewart, Surveyor of KInsale

Miss Mary Anne Stewart

Mrs. Peniel Westropp

Miss Dora Westropp

 

Skibbereen

 

Tim Crowley

Denis Driscoll

John Driscoll (2 books)

Samuel Jervois, Esq., Brade?

Hugh Somerville

Hugh Sommerville, Esq.

John Somerville Esq., Lieutenant in the  Navy

 

John Sullivan one of Cork city Coroners related to Limricks of Schull Family may have originated around there

 

Likely Connections

Master H. Townsend Daly

Charles Hodnett

Thomas Hurly

Colonel Tonson, Hull descendant owner of West Cork Estates

William Regn

James Regan

Peter Skuse

William Roycroft of Ardaroastig

Rev. Edward Townsend, D. D.

 

 

 

Durrus Court, Gearhmeen, house built by Evansons c 1795 and completely restored recently.  McCarthy Mucklagh Castle c 1615 nearby.   Durrus Court used by Lord Bandon post 1854 as a summer residence adn shooting lodge other times rented out. Aldworths (North Cork) in laws alos used.

 

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1871 Western Tenantry Entertained by Lord Bandon on coming of age of Lord Bernard, at Durrus Court (Gearhameen).  Dinner provided by James Philips of Durrus and Mrs. Fitzgerald, Cork.  

Toasts to :’Her Majesty the Queen’, ‘The Prince and Princes of Wales’, and the Royal Family

‘The Lord Lieutenant and Prosperity to Ireland’, ‘Army Navy and Reserve Forces’

 

Among those present

Earl of Bantry

Captain Whitman

Colonel Aldworth

Rev. John Triphook, Schull

Rev. W. Fisher, Teampall na mBochht, Goleen

William S. Tisdall

William Morris, probably related to Murphys of Newtown, Bantry.

Michael Hungerford Morris, J.P., Evanson descendant, Friendly Cove.

Rev. W. Dulea, later Parish Priest Durrus.

Rev. R. Noble

Rev Hicks

Rev. Pratt, Durrus

Dr. Thomas Henry Sandiford, M.D., Dispensary Doctor

Captain Thomas, Mine Owner

Mr. Andrews

Lady Mary Aldworth nee Bernard, Bandon

Lady Elizabeth white

Lady Ina White

Lady Jane White

Lady Adelaide and Cathleen Bernard, Bandon

Miss whitmore

Mrs Fisher

Mrs. Noble

Mrs. Pratt, nee Murphy, Newtown, Bantry

Mrs Payne, probably wife of Somers Payne agent Lord Bantry

Mrs Tisdall, may ne nee Murphy Newtown, Bantry

Mrs M Morris

Miss Bessy Morris

Mrs. Sandiford

Mrs. Hicks

 

Toasts to : ‘Her Majesty the Queen’, ‘The Prince and Princes of Wales’, and the Royal Family

‘The Lord Lieutenant and Prosperity to Ireland’, ‘Army Navy and Reserve Forces’

 

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The Durrus Bandon estte was formerly forfeit McCarthy lands.  The Evansons came into possession post 1690, after thy ran in money troubles they sold to Francis Bernard, Bandon ancestor of Lord Bandon.  The Evansons were granted a lease that expired in 1854.

Details of Bandon Estate tenancies in Durrus post 1854 with named tenant are here:

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Right. Hon. James Francis 4th Earl of Bandon (1850- , (see also Bernard) K.P., 1871, Castlebernard, Chairman Irish Landowners Association 1910 Listed 1913, listed 1922.  Married Georgina Dorothy Evans Freke d 7th Lord Carbery and wife Harriet Shouldham, the Dunmanway Shouldhams are descended on the female line from a McCarthy heiress who converted.

Michael Hungerford Morris, 1866, Friendly Cove/Ballivane, Carrigbui (Durrus), Bantry, Resident, £33, Evanson descendant. 1870 Land Return 1,157 acres. 1871 attending coming of age of Lord Bernard at banquet for Lord Bandon’s western tenants, Durrus Court, also ther, William Morris, Mrs M Morris, Miss Bessy Morris

John Pratt, 1875-1902, secured a Commissioners of Public Works loan for land improvement in Clashadoo. Grandfather and father clergymen, native of Midleton, family in Burke’s Peerage.  Married Eva Murphy, Donemark, executor in estate of William Samuel Tisdall, Donemark House 1878, £3,000 may be brother in law.  1866. JOHN PRATT~ M.A., V. Durrus and Kilcrohane, vice Freke. The church population is about 430. There are two churches-the parish church, picturesquely situated at the head of Dummanus Bay, and a small church at the north side of the parish, at Rooska, on the south side of Bantry Bay. This latter-was built in 1866. Durrus parish church was enlarged by the addition of a side aisle in 1867, at a cost of £600, and a chancel built as a gift by the Countess of Bandon. Divine Service is held in the parish church twice on Sundays and chief festivals; and on alternate Sundays at Rooska in s UIllIille.r. There is a capital sum 0’£ £1,000, the interest of which goes towards the assessment, which is £134, stipend of Rector, £250 • The present Incumbent receives a “good service” pension. He contributes £40 a year to the curate’s salary. There are three parochial schools, viz., Glebe School, N. B.; Rooska, N.B.; and Mollough, eh. Ed. Socy. Among the parochial organizations are-Branches of Young Women’s Christian Association, and Temperance Society, and a Weekly Men’s Bible Class; and there are services and meetings for C. M. S., S. P. G., Jews’ Society, Prot. Orph. Socy., Ch. Ed. Socy., Hospitals, Dio. Board of Ed’l Island and Coast Socy., etc. There is an excellent Glebe House, prettily situated close to the church. in 47 acres of glebe land. Rent and taxes amounting to about £74 a year. John Pratt, b. at Churchtown, Midleton, 22nd Oct., 1812, son of the Revd. Robt. Pratt, A.B., P. Desertmore (Brady), and grandson of the Revd. James Pratt, A.M., P. Kilnaglory, and R. V. Athnowen (Brady), and great-grandson of Robt. Pratt, Portreve of Castlemartyr. (For this family, vide ” Burke’s Landed Gentry.”) CORK·1 DURRUS AND KILCROHANE-FANLOBBUS. 49 T.CD., B.A., 1835 j M.A. 18e6. Ordained Deacon, 1840, at Killaloe, and Priest 1841, at Limerick. Curate of Kinneigh, 1840-46 j of Kilbrogan, Bandon, 1846-56 j R. Killowen, 1856-58 j R. Kilnagross, Ross. 1858-66 j Precentor of Cork, 1855, and Rural Dean of Gleansanley: He married, in 1841, Charlotte Louisa dau. of Michael Murphy, of Newtown, Bantry, brother of Rev. John Murphy, A.B., Treasurer of Cork, and R. Mogeesha, Cloyne (q. v.); and secondly, Eva, dau. of Francis Cole of Blair’s Cove, Coolculaghta, Co. Cork. Her brother, the Revd. John Francis Cole, is the present Rector of Portarlington.  Presumably Glebe Lands:  Rev John Pratt mortgage 2nd July 1885 from the Commissioners of Public Works for £60 towards land improvement at Clashadoo witnessed by E.B. Warburton Resident Magistrate, Bantry. (Registry of Deeds 1885/29/19).

 

1841 Cork election, West Carbery,  Contested Box, Names Addresses of electors

1841 Election West Carbery Contested Box

Pages 204 on. Voters had to have a property valuation which is indicated ranging from £10 to £50 freeholder and often their addresses does not coincide. To qualify for a vote there had to be an earlier application to the Quarter Session barrister with a qualifying property. Tht often enable to link people to particular localities.

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The petition was instigated by the unsuccessful candidates Protestant Conservatives Longfield and Leader. The Liberal/Catholic candidates O’Connell and Roche won.

The elections were highly contested every vote scrutinised adn any legal defect disallowed the vote. It was also the era of open voting.

Unusually those such as the O’Sullivan of Beara and Cotters of Kealkil who you would have expected to vote for O’Connell did not do so reflecting their close connection with Lord Bantry.

April 1689. Selection of MPs for Borough of Baltimore.  Cornelius O’Donovan, Morrogh O’Donovan, Cornelius O’Donovan of Kilmacabea, Daniel O’Donovan of Kilgliny, Daniel Regane, Daniel O’Donovan of Gortnaskehy, Tymothy Regan, Daniel O’Donovan of Fournaught (Castlehaven), Thady Regan of Ballinacloghy (Leap), Cornelius O’Donovan of Ballynacala, Keadagh O’Donovan als O’Donovane, all Burgesses of Baltimore have chosen Daniel O’Donovan and Jeremie Donovan Esq. as Member.

Charter 5th May, 1613, James 1, of The Sovereign, Free Burgesses, an Commonalty of Cloughnakilty (Clonakilty), Co. Cork, Recorder, Court of Conscience, Manor Courts, Administration, Election of Sovereign on Feast Day of St. James The Apostle.

1783 Cork City Elections. Listing of Electors with Occupations including out of town County Freemen

1783, Listing of Voters in Cork City Election.

1832 Election. Open Voting Location of Polling Booths By Barony in Co. Cork.

1841. County Cork Election, Daniel O’Connell and Roche elected, Leader and Longfield Defeated, contested Votes in Baronies of West Carbery and Bere, Enhanced British Parliamentary Papers On Ireland.

1841 Cork County election, Shenanigans, Patrick O’Sullivan, Millcove, Senescahal, leading Conservative party from Castletown Berehaven on Schooner ‘Sophia’ to Bantry via Adrigole, Leaving Bantry 4am, Breakfast in Dunmanway , Bandon 2pm. Attacked by Mobs in Bantry, Bandon and Upton, Parish Priest of Bantry Father Barry and his Curate Father Ragley pass through Bandon in a Coach Greatly crowded, Festooned with Handkerchiefs, Branches Of Trees Waving, A Great Deal of Noise.

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1837 Subscribers to McNamara’s, Catholic Bible

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Thomas Saunders Cave, Rossbrin Manor, Schull, Mining Speculator Extraordinary, 1852 Owner of Ballycumisk, Cappagh, Horse Island, Castle Point Mines.

 

Courtesy J. Brooke, 1991.  Extract p. 25 on

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Various family members appear as book subscribers,

Gibson History of Cork 1861: Mrs. Cave. Rossbrin Manor,

 

Dr. Daniel Donovan, History Of Carbery, 1875:

Cave, Arthur Oriel, Rosbrin Manor, Schull, (3 copies)

Cave, Charles, 13th Regiment,

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Overview of mining in West Cork, commencement of copper mining, Allihies 1813, Ballycumisk and Horse Island 1814, Balllydehob 1820, Cappagh 1820, Gortavallig Kilrohane pre 1854 and 1890, Barytes Bantry, Scart, Derryinagh, Dereenlomane, Mount Gabriel, Dunbeacon Lead in Ballydehob, Gortycloona/Hollyhill (Bantry), Letter, Skeagh.

Photograph with names of Miners, Horse Island Copper Mine, West Cork, 1898.

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