Irish in Durrus 1930s from Seosamh Ó Drisceoil (Joe O’Driscoll) N.T. (National Teacher) and others


It is sometime said that in the 19th century people in areas such as West Cork continued to speak Irish but through the medium of the English Language.  Sentence structure, idiom, syntax, accent and words sound alien to speakers of English from England or the USA. To a limited extent this is still true.

 

Many of the words listed are peppered through ordinary conversation and people are unaware of their origin.

 

Irish in Durrus 1930s from Joe O’Driscoll N.T. (National Teacher), and others, 27th August 2018

 

Words in Irish from Dunmanway, West Cork from Flor Crowley N.T. (National Teacher), Behigullane, Dunmanway. .

 

 

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McCarthy Genealogy: From Irish Pedigrees; or the Origin and Stem of the Irish Nation by John O’Hart


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McCarthy Genealogy: From Irish Pedigrees; or the Origin and Stem of the Irish Nation by John O’Hart

MacCARTHY MOR (No.1)
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Line of Heber | Heber Genealogies
Arms: A stag trippant, attired and unguled or. Crest: A dexter arm in armour ppr. cuffed ar. erect and couped at the wrist, holding in the hand a lizard, both also ppr. Supporters: Two angels ppr. vested ar. habited gu. winged or, each holding in the exterior hand a shield, thereon a human head affronted erased. Motto: Forti et fideli nihil difficile.
FAILBHE FLANN, son of Aodh Dubh, who is No. 94 on the “Line of Heber” (ante), was the ancestor of “MacCarthy Mór.” From him the pedigree of the family is as follows:
95. Failbhe Flann (d. A.D. 633): son of Aodh Dubh; was the 16th Christian King of Munster, and reigned 40…

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1821, 1848.  Antiquarian Queries, to John Windele, Cork, from William M. O’Hea, Castle Salem,  (Rosscarbery), Lady Bernard, Zachariah C. Hawkes, antiquarian and farmer, of Moneens, Bandon, Roger Downing, Bantry


1821, 1848.  Antiquarian Queries, to John Windele, Cork, from William M. O’Hea, Castle Salem,  (Rosscarbery), Lady Bernard, Zachariah C. Hawkes, [antiquarian and farmer, of Moneens, Bandon.

The Royal Irish Academy have a manuscript collection of John Windele’s correspondence almost 4,000 items. Many relate to Ogham Stones,Round Towers, Ancient Remains but also of legal nature, he ran the Sheriff’s Office in Cork. He had a wide range of correspondents including Robert McAdam, of Belfast founder of the Sirocco Works. He alos features in another collection in the RIA that of the Rev. Graves in letters to and from Dr. John O’Donovan.

 

 

Sketches by Cork Antiquarian, John Windle (1801-1865), Ross Cathedral and Old Church, Mount Gabriel, Sherkin Island, Baltimore Castle, Ancient Brazen Vessel found in June 1845 and deposited in Castle Bernard (burnt down 1920), Lough Ine, Coppinger’s Court,

 

Jeremiah Joseph (JJ) Callanan, 1786-1829, Some poems From Irish, Dirge of O’Sullivan Bere, The lament of O’Gnieve, The Outlay of Loch Lene, The Convict of Clonmel. Original English Gougaune Barra (I too shall be gone;- but my name shall be spoken When Erin awakes, and her fetters are broken), Oh Say, my ‘Brown Drimin’, On Cleada’s Hill (Mountain range between Millstreet and Killarney) the Moon is Bright, Poetry Hot Spots 1810s 1820s Carbery, Caheragh, Drinagh and Castlehaven. Extended Cork Callanan Medical/Apothecary Family. Patron Dr. Burke, Bantry 1820s.

Dublin Penny Journal, Journey to Durrrus 1836, from Butler’s Gift (Drimoleague), West Cork, John Windle Cork Antiquarian and Father John Ryan, Drimoleague to the Rev. Alleyn Evanson.

 

Roger Downing

Proposing Resolution Bantry Catholic Meeting 1826.  1826, as Roger R. Downing, Gent with Paul John Kingston, Gent, witness to Clerk/Young deed. Slater 1846 Tobacco Manufacturer, Main St.  Described as wily Kerryman. Brother of Timothy McCarthy Downing, born Kenmare, Skibbereen Solicitor, MP. and landowner. The discovery of this object (The Brahalish Brooch) was first reported to John Windele by one of   He reported the find of the Brahalish Hoard in Durrus to John Windle 1843. In a letter dated 4 January 1843, he states ‘You have at top, the size of the piece of Gold found at Brahalish, 4 Mile Water, it weighs 3⅝ ozs avoirdupois Wt. both ends are in the form of a Cup; with a narrow Carving inside of the edges, the outside of the ends, and the greater part if not the entire of the handle are carved as above;You will perceive by the Size and Wt. of the article that it is not Solid, the oining being visible on the inside of the handle, it appears to be of thepurest gold; I need not say that the finder sets a great value on his God Send; he says he is certain of finding more of it; that he dreamt 30 years since that there was gold hidden where he found this article. It would not astonish me, if he rooted up half his farm in search of the precious metal. If this Article lies in your way and that I can be of any assistance in purchasing it, I am at your service. Comment Windele notes that the finder’s name was Owen Sullivan (referred to as Eugene Sullivan by Roger Downing) and that the find-place was the site of an ancient fort, the article having been found under the root of a hawthorn. 1863, Bantry Quarter Sessions, Grand Jury  Windle correspondence.  Correspondence between John Windele, antiquarian, County Sheriff’s Office, Cork and Roger Downing, of Bantry, Co. Cork, concerning a prospectus for Windele‘s ‘Historical and descriptive notices of the city of Cork and its vicinity ; Gougaun-Barra, Glengariff, and Killarney’ where Downing outlines apparent omissions of sites of antiquarian interest in areas covered by Windele in his work, specifically castles in the Blackwater area. Windele thanks Downing for the information, regretting it is too late to include the sites in his work. Windele invites Downing to become a correspondent in order to continue informing him of interesting sites in Kenmare. letter, to John Windele, antiquarian, of Blair’s Castle, Sunday’s Well, Cork, from R[oger] Downing, of Bantry, Co. Cork, in which he notifies Windele of his having sent him a salmon. Letter to John Windele, antiquarian of Blairs Castle, Sunday’s Well, Cork from Roger Downing, Bantry, Co. Cork, in which Downing refers to his employment of a young painter to copy the coat of arms of O’Sullivan at Dunkerron Castle and outlines his intention to compile a list of battles associated with Ardtully castle and Ardea Castle (Beara, Co. Cork).

 

12 L 5/66CollectionWindele MSSTitle or Description Letter from John Windele, antiquarian, County Sheriff’s Office, Cork to Roger Downing, of Bantry, Co. Cork, asking his advice on the quickest route from Bantry to Skellig and an approximation of how long such a journey would take.AuthorWindele, John, 1801-1865.Date

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Manuscripts icon Correspondence between John Windele, antiquarian, of Sunday’s Well, Cork, and Lady Catherine Bernard, Countess of Bandon, of Castle Bernard, concerning her queries regarding some of the antiquities in the Bernard collection and their exhibition at a meeting of the Cork Cuvierian Society.
Bernard, Catherine, Lady; Windele, John, 1801-1865.
14 February-22 April 1848
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Manuscripts icon Copy letter, to Zachariah C. Hawkes, antiquarian, of Moneens, Bandon, Co. Cork, from John Windele, antiquarian, of Sunday’s Well, Cork, in which he refers to reports of ancient forts located in the vicinity of Killaminogue, Co. Cork.
Windele, John, 1801-1865.
20 October 1848
4 B 8/42

 

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1843. Pre Famine Statistical Survey of Parish of Kilmurray, Co. Cork, Prepared and Present to British Association Meeting Cork 1843 by Father John Kelleher, Curate Formerly of Durrus.


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1843.  Pre Famine Statistical Survey of Parish of Kilmurray, Co. Cork, Prepared and Present to British Association Meeting Cork 1843 by Father John Kelleher, Curate.

Father Kelleher highly active with Father Quin of Durrus adn Father Barry of Bantry in anti tithe activities.  Organiser of Catholic rent and Repeal meetings.  Unusual as post ordination studied in Rome.  The likes of father Kelleher were silenced from political activity from the 1870s by Cardinal Cullen.

Colleges Attended

St. Patrick’s College, Maynooth Co Kildare, Ireland

Details Of Ordination

St. Mary’s Cathedral, Cork

8/1/1828

Appointments

Kinsale PP : 10/1853 – 19/3/1875

Dunmanway PP : 1849 – 10/1853

Goleen PP : 1848 – 1849

Cathedral CC : 1847 – 1848

Kilmurry CC : 1841 – 1847

Kinsale CC : 1839 – 1841

Kilmurry CC – 1839

Muintir Bhaire CC

Post-Graduate Studies/Irish College. Rome

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He was appointed Chancellor of the newly-established Cathedral Chapter on the…

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Obituary Lord John Carbery (Evans-Freke) 6th Baron Carbery (1765-1845), Castle Freke, Rosscarbery, Funeral of Lord Peter Evans-Freke 2012, Evans-Freke Masoleum, Rathbarry Church of Ireland.  


Obituary Lord John Carbery (Evans-Freke) 6th Baron Carbery (1765-1845), Castle Freke, Rosscarbery, Funeral of Lord Peter Evans-Freke 2012, Evans-Freke Masoleum, Rathbarry Church of Ireland.  


Obituary Lord John Carbery (Evans-Freke) 6th Baron Carbery (1765-1845), Castle Freke, Rosscarbery.

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1833, Report by Commissioners Lyle Acheson and Philip Fogarty into Borough of Baltimore, West Cork, Royal Charters 1613, 1689, Compensation of £15,000 paid to Lord Carbery 1800 on Act of Union for loss of Borough. Shipping Register.

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Burke’s Peerage on Freke-Evans Family, Lord Carbery, Castlefreke, and Contrast with Bernards (Earls of Bandon) Co. Cork.

 

1864. Survey of Baltimore and Sub Denomination Laherne, West Cork for The Right Honourable Lord Carbery(Evans-Freke) of Castlefreke, by J. Morris and R.T. Wolfe and Lord Carberys. Earlier 1788 Survey Tenants in Clonakilty and other areas named.

1817. Peter Besnard Inspector General of Linen for Provinces of Munster, Leinster and Connaught, report, Banon, Clonakilty, Rosscarbery, Skibbereen, Dunmanway, Bantry, Export to West Indies and USA, Exertions of Lord Bantry and Vicar of Bantry Rev. Smith, Lord Carbery. Redmond Barry, Colonel Hodder, Trade Depressed. Praise for Right Honourable John Foster, Collon, Co. Louth, Promoter of Linen Industry as Chancellor of the Exchequer early pioneer of Capital Spending.

Samuel Thomas Heard (1835-1921), of Ballintubber, (late 17th century formal gardens), Kinsale, Co. Cork, East Indian Army Surgeon Major, inspired by Madras Horticultural Gardens he created Rossdohan gardens in Kenmare, Co. Kerry in 1873 utilising Furze as sea shelter emulating Lord Carbery at Castle Freke and son’s plant collecting in Abyssinia.

The coming of the McCarthys to Carbery, 1232 AD, Donogh Moyle (Leas-Ainm; Nickname) McCarthy, Phale, (Ballineen), Co. Cork Died 1630s Two Sons in Oxford. The lands referred to came into the possession of the Evans-Freke family (Lord Carbery).

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Lord John Carbery (Evans-Freke) 6th Baron Carbery (1765-1845), 1821, Castle Freke, Rosscarbery.  Son of Sir John Freke, married 1783 Lady Catherine Charlotte Gore succeeded by nephew George Evans-Freke. MP Donegal and Baltimore. Grandmaster of Freemasons in Munster. 1817 Chairing Cork Committee of Linen production an encouraging local development. 1822 signed Memorial for new road Bantry/Durrus/Kilcrohane part of his estate was Ballycomane in Durrus.  1821 writing to Chief Secretary re disaffection, Castlefreke, Clonakilty, sitting Rosscarbery, 1835. 1822 Lord Lieutenant sends £500 for local distress. 1822 Cork Trustee for The Encouraging Industry in Ireland.  Protestant protest meeting Cork 1834.   Author of pamphlet 1832 urging reform of Cork Grand Jury.  Reputed to have bell rung in London church on hearing of death of Father John Power, Parish priest Kilmacabea.  Subscriber 1821 Dr Thomas Wood’s ‘Primitive Inhabitants of Ireland. Present at enquiry Skibbereen 1823 into enquiry into fatal affray at Castlehaven caused by Rev. Morritt’s tithe extraction. – 1823 Blamed notorious tithe extractor Rev. Morritt for fatal affray at Castlehaven, welcomed Petty Session Courts and urged abolition of Manor Courts.  Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837. listed 1843. Lord of Manor appointing Seneschals. Member Commission on Magistrates 1838. Member provisional Committee projected Bandon to Bantry Railway 1845.   HIs life size statue in Rosscarbery Cathedral has an inscription how he founded schools in various parts of his estates, clothed the surrounding hills with trees and improved agriculture and the amelioration of his countrymen’.  Carberys intermarried with O’Driscoll family. Left estate valued at £90,000. Left rental of estates for life to his wife. On his death he directed that the principal family seat and residence should be Castle and that his inheritor should reside there at least four months in the year.  If the inheritor was to become Roman Catholic, the interest in the estate would cease and go to the next in line provided such party was Protestant.

Right Honourable 7th Lord Carbery, Castlefreke, Clonakilty, subscriber 1861 to Smith’s History of Cork.  1864. 1863 subscriber Maziere Brady Records of Dioceses of Cork Cloyne and Ross. Survey of Baltimore and Sub Denomination Laherne, West Cork for The Right Honourable Lord Carbery, by J. Morris and R.T. Wolfe. Castlebernard, Chairman Irish Landowners Association 1910 Listed 1913, listed 1922.  Wife Harriet Shouldham, the Dunmanway Shouldhams are descended on the female line from a McCarthy heiress who converted.  Daughter Georgina Dorothy Evans Freke married James Francis 4th Earl of Bandon.

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Rathbarry Church of Ireland including Evans-Freke Mausoleum, courtesy Barry Bradfield:

 

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Courtesy Barry Bradfield, Southern Star,Thursday, 16th August, 2012 :

By Louise Roseingrave

THE family crypt at Castlefreke Chapel received the remains of the 11th Baron Carbery on Tuesday August 7th, the first lord to be entombed in the mausoleum in 167 years.

Lord Peter Evans-Freke was a poet, painter, composer, classicist, and an ‘incurable romantic’, his second son John told mourners at his funeral mass in Rathbarry Church.

Some 25 members of the Evans-Freke dynasty, who re-acquired Castlefreke in 1999, arrived at their ancestor’s home place to bid a final farewell to Lord Carbery, who died last week in Twickenham, England.

A civil engineer by trade, Lord Peter Ralfe Harrington Evans-Freke served behind enemy lines during WWII carrying out operations to destroy Japanese infrastructure and later helped clear the way for allied troops at the infamous Battle of the Tennis Court at Kohima, India in 1944.

Family, his education at Downside School – a prominent public school for Catholic boys – the war, and his mother were listed among the most important influences on Lord Carbery’s life. Described as ‘an extraordinary classicist’ by his son, John Evans-Freke, Lord Carbery was a prolific writer, whose only published work, a book of poetry entitled Love, Life and Laughter, was among the gifts brought to the altar by his children.

His Knights of Malta insignia, which he wore on special occasions, rosary beads and a piece of music he composed were offered at the Mass, a full sung Tridentine Latin Mass celebrated by an abbot of Downside Abbey, Dom Boniface Hill, together with con celebrant Fr Patrick McCarthy (PP) and Dom Phillip Tierney of Glenstal Abbey.

Lord Carbery was remembered as ‘a Renaissance man in the true Victorian style,’ with a deep devotion to the Catholic Church, his son John told mourners.

He and his late wife Lady Joyzelle Carbery (nee Binny), whom he married in 1941, visited Lourdes regularly during their 64 years together. Both only children, Lord and Lady Carbery were passionate about family and their five children, 14 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren were Lord Carbery’s ‘greatest achievement’ in life, his son said.

He was particularly proud of his son Stephen Evans-Freke’s work restoring Rathbarry Castle and Castlefreke itself, where work is on-going. Following his wife’s death in 2006, Lord Carbery married his second wife, Lady Elisabeth Carbery, to whom John paid tribute for ‘looking after him tirelessly.’

‘He was kind to everyone, he had time for everyone, he enjoyed life to the full, enjoyed a good story and was an incurable romantic. His huge infectious laugh will always be remembered. He was enormously talented, gifted with an inquiring mind. Although born into a seemingly conventional family, his upbringing was far from conventional,’ John Evans-Freke said.

Lord Carbery inherited the title from his uncle, John Evans-Freke, the tenth Baron Carbery who succeeded to the title in 1898. He was noted for his three wives and eccentric behaviour, later renouncing his title and relocating to Kenya where he ran a coffee plantation.

John Lane from Clonakilty told how his great-granduncle, James Lane, enjoyed gainful employment as the resident farrier at the Rathbarry Castle estate.

‘They were excellent employers, they brought money into the area and are popular locally, the crowd here today is evidence of that,’ he said.

Following Tuesday’s funeral, the 11th Baron Carbery was carried in an original 19th-century horse-drawn hearse for entombment in the family crypt next to the ruined Castlefreke Chapel overlooking the Atlantic Ocean at Long Strand. A piper played Nearer my God to Thee as Lord Carbery’s remains were shouldered by his sons and grandsons into the mausoleum, as relatives and local people gathered in the churchyard to pay respects.

The 12th Baron Carbery title will be taken up by Lord Carbery’s eldest son, Michael.

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1773, Thady Sullivan, Bantry, Timothy Donovan and Michael McCarthy, Merchants, Subscribers to Manual on Mercantile Law.  Lex Mercatoria Rediviva: Or, The Complete Guide to All Men in Business. Merchant’s Directory: By Wyndham Beawes, Jacques Savary des Brûlons


 

1773, Thady Sullivan, Bantry, Subscriber to Manual on Mercantile Law.  Lex Mercatoria Rediviva: Or, The Merchant’s Directory: By Wyndham Beawes, Jacques Savary des Brûlons

 

 

 

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