Meeting of Directors of West Cork Railway (Henry Winthrop O’Donovan (The O’Donovan), JP Chairman, James Hutchinson Swanton, JP, DL. McCarthy Downing, Solicitor) with Robert Peel re bringing Railway to Skibbereen, November 1861, Guarantees sought from major Landowners.


https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Skibbereen,+Co.+Cork/@51.5559239,-9.2621303,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4845a5b8ee671cad:0x28dab316351c3ffb

Taken from a dark microfilm quality poor. Skibbereen Eagle, National Library

Meeting of Directors of West Cork Railway (Henry Winthrop O’Donovan (The O’Donovan), JP Chairman, James Hutchinson Swanton, JP, DL. McCarthy Downing, Solicitor) with Robert Peel re bringing Railway to Skibbereen, November 1861, Guarantees sought from major Landowners.

O’Donovan is ‘The O’Donovan’ the head of the Clan.  He is from the Protestant branch of the family and not all members accepted that line’s entitlement to the title.

Swanton is the miller and businessman from Rineen.  The extended Swantons family emanating from Ballydehob was a  major business family and mainly Methodist.

McCarthy Downing was from Kerry, he became the most prominent Lawyer in the area and MP, at one point it was mooted that he would go to the House of Lords in London, England.  A major purchaser of Estates before the Landed Estates Court owning over 7,000 acres.  Major figure in Famine Relief.  Son succeeded in legal practice.

On the railway guarantee the Bandon Estate rent books from 1885 in the Durrus area make a provision on the rents for railway guarantee.

https://durrushistory.com/2012/01/29/map-cork-bandon-and-south-coast-railway-c1900/https://durrushistory.com/2014/08/24/railways-pre-1961-schull-ballydehob-creagh-skibbereen-west-cork/

Successful action in compelling the Fiat of the Attorney General in action to injunct the closure of West Cork Railway System March 1961 untimately unsuccessful as it was permitted under Transport Act of 1956.

Carbery, Cold, Furze, Horse Islands, Dunmanus Bay, West Cork, part of Becher estate 19th century, Horse and Cold Island no cultivation value consists of right to sea-weed to be had to a considerable extent, Carbery and Furze particularly suited as salt marshes for feeding horses and black cattle, Wintering Place for Horses of Marmions of Skibbereen, Coaching Establishment later Phillips of Durrus, formerly acres of Narcissi.


https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Carbery+Island/@51.5655218,-9.6744444,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x48459cc41372977b:0x498e0a9384bd0ba0

Carbery, Cold, Furze, Horse Islands, Dunmanus Bay, West Cork, part of Becher estate 19th century, Horse and Cold Island no cultivation value consists of right to sea-weed to be had to a considerable extent, Carbery and Furze particularly suited as salt marshes for feeding horses and black cattle, Wintering Place for Horses of Marmions of Skibbereen, Coaching Establishment.

Later in the late 19th century, the Philips of Durrus who also ran a coaching establishment used the small Manion island in Dunmanus Bay about 4 acres fro wintering horses. That island while grazed was cover in narcissi in spring.

When the island was used by horses their grazing enabled the Narcissi to flourish in more recent years the island has become overgrown crowding out the flowers.  Some years ago a large house was built on the island.

The Marmions came from Dundalk to Skibbereen c 1720.  They were prominent land owners, auctioneers, merchants, churchmen.

Skibbereen, West Cork, Descendants of Marmion of Dundalk, Co Louth Norman family intermarried names include Attridge, Beamish, Dowe, Jermyn, Long, Holmes, O’Driscoll, O’Sullivan, Wiseman, family involved in Land Management, Auctioneering, Transport Operators, Progressive Millers, Churchmen, descendants England, Tasmania, USA.

The Philips of Durrus ran a coaching establishment between Durrus and Bantry until the early years of the 20th century.  Until the 1950s their coaches and carriages rotting in their yard in the village.

The progress of the Attridge family from Lisheenacreaagh (Lisín-na-Creiche: little-fort-of-the-cattle-spoil), Ballydehob, West Cork to Rochester, New York, United States and Waterdown, East Flanboro. Ontario, Canada, with associated families, Gosnells, Skerkin Island, and Lees and Sheehans, photographs of Sally and William Atteridge, Rochester, born West Cork 18th century, and Protestant Hedge School Masters.


Lisheenacreagh;

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Lisheennacreagh,+Co.+Cork/@51.5994564,-9.4933398,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!1m3!3m2!1s0x4845a1fbab9e7f8d:0xc90f54789bef8b01!2sKozy+Kats+Cattery!3m1!1s0x48459f83693bc1cf:0x405f60548fe08235

Rochester:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Rochester,+NY,+USA/@43.1854746,-77.6165028,8z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x89d6b3059614b353:0x5a001ffc4125e61e

East Flanboro:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Flamborough,+Hamilton,+ON+L0R,+Canada/@43.3445704,-80.054456,8z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x882c81bbd5b3c6a3:0x1128b52e60fa5eca

The progress of the Attridge family from Lisheenacreaagh (Lisín-na-Creiche: little-fort-of-the-cattle-spoil),  Ballydehob, West Cork to Rochester, New York, United States and Waterdown, East Flanboro. Ontario, Canada, with associated families,  Gosnells, Skerkin Island, and Lees and Sheehans, photographs of Sally and William Atteridge, Rochester, born West Cork 18th century, and Protestant Hedge School Masters.

Courtesy John Attridge, London, Ontario family history, the latter part concentrates on the later generations of the family.

There were other Attridges families in the area and a number of lines in Durrus.

The area mentioned in the book, Lisennacreagh and associated townlands would be in the category of ‘Disadvantaged areas’ but in the 18th and 19th century its proximity to the coast with ample supplies of sea sand and seaweed enabled cultivation to the mountain tops.

Much of this marginal area is now forested.  Sherkin and the nearly Islands of Skeagh, Horse and Cape Clear are quite fertile and had enormous populations prior to the Famine in 1847.

The Greenmount, Attridges, Ballydehob were Middlemen and seem to be associated with Jagos in Bantry, O’Driscolls, O’Connors, and Swantons.  A branch of them settled in Skibbereen as drapers and in Glasheen in Cork City from the late 18th century.

When the Rev. Dives Downes, Bishop of Cork, visited the Schull area c 1699 he estimated that there were only a handful of Protestant families West of Skibbereen.  By 1820 the Protestant population was perhaps 20% of the Peninsula in some townlands more.

Some Birth, Marriage and Death Records from 1592 of Church of Ireland, Methodist, Quaker and old Catholic Families, Skibbereen District, West Cork and Rochester, New York.

In 1822, after being in Schull the Reverend Caesar Otway was commenting on a forgotten Plantation and the Protestant being abandoned.

The use of seaweed in farming, Edible seaweeds, rights to harvest seaweed attaching to land in townlands of Brahalish and Rossmoe, Durrus, West Cork, Rev. Caesar Otway 1822 on seaweed use Mount Gabriel/Dunbeacon.

Caesar Otway, Publisher Dublin Penny Journal, Skull to Bantry, 1822.

The Rev Fisher in 1840s writing said that most of the original Protestant in Crookhaven had gone and become ‘Bigoted Romanists’.

View of Tempol na mBocht, (The Church of the Poor, Crookhaven), Mizen Peninsula, West Cork, with Parsonage and Sandboat in Foreground on Pamphlet from Rev. William Fisher 1851, setting out History of St. Brendan’s Church, Built 1714, by Bishop Brown, original Protestants gone over as Romanists their descendant ‘Bitter Romanists’ until lately few Protestants left on ‘Protestant Hill’, Plea for Funds, list of Subscribers.

It is possible that the Attridges like the Swantons came in from around the 1710s.   On the Becher Estate there were Swanton leases quoted from the late 1740s in the Landed Estates Sale of the 1850s.

In Mr Attridge’s book he mentions a Sheehan a schoolmaster in Sherkin Island c 1810. In the lists of teachers in the 1820s a surprising number in Protestant schools were of Catholic origin. These informal schools were at a stretch in the category of hedge schools. These teachers may have converted out of conviction, convenience but most likely on marriage to a Protestant partner as was the case in reverse.https://durrushistory.com/2013/04/30/teachers-of-baronies-of-east-and-west-carbery-bantry-and-bere-west-cork-1826/

Early 19th century farmhouse and outbuildings with 12 pane detail in window at Lisheenacreagh Upper, (Lisín na Creiche:Little fort of the cattle spoil), Ballydehob, West Cork.

Early 19th century farmhouse and outbuildings with 12 pane detail in window at Lisheenacreagh Upper, (Lisín na Creiche:Little fort of the cattle spoil), Ballydehob, West Cork.

From the Mizen/Ivagh and Muintervara/Durrus Peninsulas West Cork, to Rochester, New York, United States, Foundation of Hibernian Benevolent Society Episcopal Church of St. Marks and St. Cyrene Mount Hope Cemetery.

https://plus.google.com/photos/100968344231272482288/albums/6124910036836837745
https://durrushistory.com/2014/01/22/preaching-by-methodist-lay-preacher-william-feckman-lisheenacreagh-ballydehob-west-cork-1834/

https://plus.google.com/photos/100968344231272482288/albums/6124910036836837745

From the Mizen/Ivagh and Muintervara/Durrus Peninsulas West Cork, to Rochester, New York, United States, Foundation of Hibernian Benevolent Society Episcopal Church of St. Marks and St. Cyrene Mount Hope Cemetery.


Peninsulas:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Durrus,+Co.+Cork/@51.6497011,-9.4265841,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x48459fe7ccd270df:0x231e3744ac95441a

Rochester;

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Rochester,+NY,+USA/@43.1854746,-77.6165028,6z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x89d6b3059614b353:0x5a001ffc4125e61e

From the Mizen/Ivagh and Muintervara/Durrus Peninsulas West Cork, to Rochester,New York, United States, Foundation of Hibernian Benevolent Society Episcopal Church of St. Marks and St. Cyrene Mount Hope Cemetery.

Courtesy John Attridge,North America Family History.

Extracts from the Parish Register of St. Marks and St. Simon Cyrene, Episcopal Church, Rochester, New York. United States, for interconnected West Cork families from Schull, Durrus, Drimoleague and Dunmanway areas from c 1830s.

Some Birth, Marriage and Death Records from 1592 of Church of Ireland, Methodist, Quaker and old Catholic Families, Skibbereen District, West Cork and Rochester, New York.

Population Density and Emigration of West Cork Protestant families, from Mizen and Muintervera Peninsulas, to Rochester New York, Wisconsin and Percy Township, Northumberland County, Ontario from early 19th Century.

Extracts from the Parish Register of St. Marks and St. Simon Cyrene, Episcopal Church, Rochester, New York. United States, for interconnected West Cork families from Schull, Durrus, Drimoleague and Dunmanway areas from c 1830s.

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Sale of Calf Island and Doneen, Travenes, Aughadown, good for Seaweed, Kelp burning, half Ploughland, Six Gneeves, acquired by Samuel Townsend from Ecclesiastical Commissioners 1837, father of Samuel Nugent Townsend, The Commissioners title arising from ‘All Gorts and Glebe lands acquired since 1688, and lands at Caheragh, Nine Gneeves, Title commencing with Lease of 9,999 years from 1749 from Tonson to Thomas Marmion then occupied by Thomas Wood Esq. by Lease from Robert Sandford, Gentleman, prior to 1850 occupied by Alexander O’Driscoll, Esq.


Calf Island:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Calf+Island+Middle,+Co.+Cork/@51.4787281,-9.5061151,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x484599cfca9db43f:0x938b583cce64bf67

Caheragh:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Caheragh,+Co.+Cork/@51.6325479,-9.3065158,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4845a797cbacb2a1:0xa00c7a99731ea90

Sale of Calf Island and Doneen, Travenes, Aughadown, good for Seaweed, Kelp burning, half Ploughland, Six Gneeves, acquired by Samuel Townsend from Ecclesiastical Commissioners 1837, father of Samuel Nugent Townsend,  The Commissioners title arising from ‘All Gorts and Glebe lands acquired since 1688, and lands at Caheragh, Nine Gneeves, Title commencing with Lease of 9,999 years from 1749 from Tonson to Thomas Marmion then occupied by Thomas Wood Esq. by Lease from Robert Sandford, Gentleman, prior to 1850  occupied by Alexander O’Driscoll, Esq.

This may the Alexander O’Driscoll who was dismissed as a Justice of the Peace which caused a huge public outcry.

Tonsons are successors to Sir William Hull, Leamcon, Schull, 1600 active in the fishing, shipping and land business originating in the West of England.  The Hull family later spread out to Kinsale and Cork City but branches remained on the Mizen/Iveagh Peninsula.

Marmion Estates:

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=2376

Townsend Family:

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~townsend/tree/home.php

Caheragh…

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nUxB7KWxzf3lXFhvU-Ua071P2ox3rLA7rP6esrsQthM/edit#gid=0

https://plus.google.com/photos/100968344231272482288/albums/6124334277279613857

Lease of Three Ploughlands at Ballydevlin (Goleen), West Carbery, William Richard Hull, (Descendant of Sir William Hull), Gunpoint to Cornelius Driscoll (likely ancestors of Driscoll/O’Driscoll Middlemen). Alexander O’Driscoll named in numerous Swanton, Attridge, Clerke deeds as witness and his children as lives in Sub Leases from Becher and Other Head Landlords in District.


https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Ballydivlin,+Co.+Cork/@51.5046277,-9.6964162,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x484584e67a9565b5:0x2600c7a819c821a2

Lease of Three Ploughlands at Ballydevlin (Goleen), West Carbery, William Richard Hull, (Descendant of Sir William Hull), Gunpoint to Cornelius Driscoll (likely ancestors of Driscoll/O’Driscoll Middlemen).  Alexander O’Driscoll named in numerous Swanton, Attridge, Clerke deeds as witness and his children as lives in Sub Leases from Becher and Other Head Landlords in District.

Courtesy Registry of Deeds Project.

The Lawyer in the Deed is Benjamin Sullivan his wife Bridget Limrick from Schull.  He may be the brother of Laurence Sullivan the Chairman of East India Company

Losses of Sir William Hull Leamcon, Schull, West Cork, 1641 and his Fishery at Newfoundland, part of greater Fishery which suffered from Bank failure in Bilbao in Basque Country 1641, Cornish Mining links.

Genealogy of Limrick family of Schull, West Cork from 1720 with their relations Benjamin Sullivan, (O’Sullivan Mór), Cork, Lawyers, East India Men, MPs

https://durrushistory.com/2015/01/31/leading-families-of-carbery-west-cork-1599-mccarthy-reagh-kilbrittain-omahony-fionnfair-haired-mizen-odriscoll-mor-collymore-schull-odaly-muintervara-kilcrohane-ocrowley-kil/http://members.pcug.org.au/~nickred/deeds/memorial_extract.cgi?my_memorial=163251&my_indexer=SW

Abstract of Deed

Type of deed Date of current deed 17 Feb 1766 Vol Page Memorial
L Date of earlier deed 245 599 163251
No Role(s) in earlier deed(s) Role in current deed(s) Family name Forename Place Occ or title A
A P1 HULL William Richard of Gunpoint, co Cork Esq
B P2 DRISCOLL Cornelius of Collisbea, co Cork gent
C WD FRIEKE James of Skull [ ? ] , co Cork gent
D WD MAHONY Catherine of Lisgriffin, co Cork widow
E WD WM DRISCOLL James of Collistra, co Cork gent
F WM MCCARTHY Thomas of Bandon, co Cork gent
G MCCARTHY Charles of co Cork Commissioner
H MEADE David of co Cork Justice
I BROWNE John of co Cork Justice
Abstract 3 plow lands, Ballydevlyn, barony West Carbery, co Cork
MS Date registered 9 Dec 1766 Date abstract added 20120302

Abstract made by: SW

1853. Report of Charles Thomas, Esq., Manager of Mizen Head and Dhurode Copper Mines on Mines and Mineral to be found in or Upon the Lands of Rathranemore, Rathruananebeg, Quoleaghmore (or Coolaghmore), and Quoleaghbeg, (or Coolaghbeg) opened by Late Colonel Hall, Banaknuckane, Ballydehob, Parish of Schull, Barony of West Carbery. Co. Cork, Estate bounded on south by Ballydehob Mines from which hundreds of tons of Rich Copper Ores have been sold and is in operation


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Report of Charles Thomas, Esq., Manager of Mizen Head and Dhurode Copper Mines on Mines and Mineral to be found in or Upon the Lands of Rathranemore, Rathruananebeg, Quoleaghmore (or Coolaghmore), and Quoleaghbeg, (or Coolaghbeg) opened by Late Colonel Hall, Banaknuckane, Ballydehob, Parish of Schull, Barony of West Carbery. Co. Cork, Estate bounded on south by Ballydehob Mines from which hundreds of tones of Rich Copper Ores have been sold and is in operation

Overview of mining in West Cork, commencement of copper mining, Allihies 1813, Ballycumisk and Horse Island 1814, Balllydehob 1820, Cappagh 1820, Gortavallig Kilrohane pre 1854 and 1890, Barytes Bantry, Scart, Derryinagh, Dereenlomane, Mount Gabriel, Dunbeacon Lead in Ballydehob, Gortycloona/Hollyhill (Bantry), Letter, Skeagh.

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