Dalys of Kilcrohane, Bards, Reputed Educators of the Sons of the King of Spain, Genetic DNA link to Bandon, Co. Cork Dalys, Ó Dálaigh Slíocht 2017


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Dalys of Kilcrohane, Bards, Reputed Educators of the Sons of the King of Spain, Genetic DNA link to Bandon, Co. Cork  Dalys, Ó Dálaigh Slíocht 2017

Dalys from Bandon.  Those Dalys we know are genetically related to  Dalys of Kilcrohane on Sheepshead, the minor Bardic branch of Anghus Ó Dalaigh.  There are others  in our the Daly database who are descended from the senior Bardic branch of Drumnea, Kilcrohane.

1708 Deed and Feoffment, Donogh Daly, Farnanmanagh, Kilcrohane, West Cork, Witness Owen Daly.

O’Daly Bardic School 13th to 17th century, Dromnea, Kilcrohane West Cork, pupils including two sons of the King of Spain, descendants founding Daly’s Distillery, Cork.

Records of South West Cork families such as Dalys, Haggertys, Swanton, Jagoe. Lannin, Levis, Dukelow, Beamish, Harrington, Mahony, McCarthy, Stout, Kingston, Raycroft, Jennings. Skuce, in Registers of Rochester New York, Register Mount Hope Cemetery, Rochester, Rochester Genealogy Relevant Canadian Records.

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The Ó Dalaighs (Dalys) of Muintervara, West Cork, Rymers/Poets to the McCarthys and O’Mahonys from c 1300, founders of Bardic School, by Oral Tradition where the Sons of the King of Spain Attended.

Rev. John Varian Daly, St. John’s College, Cambridge, Curate St. Thomas, Ardwich, Manchester Fell into the Arms of Jesus, 1877, 2nd Surviving son of Joseph Daly and Anne Varian (1814-1900), Toormore, West Cork.

100th Birthday Party, Jer Jack Daly (1915-2018) from, Kilcrohane, Muintervara, West Cork

Memorial to The O’Dalys of Muintiravara, For Many Centuries Prior to 1600 Sub-Chiefs to the McCarthy Mór and The Desmonds, Active in The Munster Wars For Religious And National Freedom. They Suffered Confiscation, Exile and Local Extinction.

Appointment of Civil Process Officers, Co. Cork, West Riding, 1st November 1826, by J. Chatterton, Clerk of the Peace, Bantry: Timothy Sullivan, Jeremiah Sullivan, Jeremiah Day, Robert Warner, Clonakilty: Thomas O’Hea, John Bateman, Dunmanway; Jeremiah Crowley, Timothy Daly, Enniskeane: Robert Thompson, Patrick Connor, Rosscarbery: Andrew McCarthy, James Brien, Skibbereen: George Hayes, Michael Caverly, Morty Sullivan.

 

 

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1830 Tithe Applotments (Tax Assessments) for Durrus District, West Cork, for Church of Ireland/Methodist families.


The 1820s were grim economically for West Cork. The collapse of the textile industry which in the Baronies of Carbery was dependant on home weaving was hard hitting on those families partly dependant on it.

This triggered wide spread emigration mostly but not exclusively Protestant to Canada and Rochester, New York.  Many of the families listed here had members who emigrated.

1830 Tithe Applotments (Tax Assessments) for  Durrus District, West Cork,  for Church of Ireland/Methodist families.   This might loosely be described as a tax assessment.  Not all people are included, no labourers, cottiers, artisans such as shoemakers are excluded.  However by combining the amount of land and its value it provided valuable information.  Discernable are clusters of small holdings in Coolculagta, Ardgoena, Droumreagh which were likely to have been weaving centres.

 

You can see clusters of small holding probably weavers in Drumreagh, Ardgoena, Coolculaghta.  Also there are names which are no longer around.

 

The originals can be viewed here, some parts such as Clashadoo are missing, the transcriptions are very poor:

 

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Tithe Aplottments 1830 DurrusParts of Bantry, Church of Ireland

 

 

 

 

1847. Father John Kelleher, PP. Ballydebob, on evils of Land Tenure. Townland of Kilronogue, Ballydehob, West Cork, Population 1841 445, 1847 125 Dead from Hunger, 6 from Disease, 84 Missing. 1841 74 Houses, 1847 27 Unroofed, 11 Unoccupied.


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Kilbronogue:

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1847. Father John Kelleher, PP. Ballydebob, on evils of Land Tenure. Townland of Kilronogue, Ballydehob, West Cork, Population 1841 445, 1847 125 Dead from Hunger, 6 from Disease, 84 Missing.  1841 74 Houses, 1847 27 Unroofed, 11 Unoccupied.

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At Kilbronogue the Revd. continued his journey escorted by Captain Harston, agent of the British Association and the Roman Catholic Parish Priest, Fr. Barry. He visited nine houses before turning away with despair. “In the ninth house that of Charles Regan, I found that of eleven only three remained. We had met the woman of the house on the road and she accompanied me to most of the houses. When we arrived at her cabin she said: ‘I have a fine young man of nineteen years of age and you could carry him in the palm of your hand.’ I entered and saw a bundle of skin and…

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Under the Radar: Roads are discovered to yield a more profitable crop than farming, 1809 Cork Grand Jury Presentments: John Arundel, William and John Swanton, Ballydehob, Alexander O’Driscoll, Skibbereen, John and William Warner, Bantry, Samuel Townsend, Henry Ryan, Skibbereen, Later, Birds and Tobins of Kilcrohane, Moss and Nicholas Families, Durrus, Shanahans of Dunbeacon, Vickeries of Ballycomane, Fitzgeralds of Baltimore.


Roads are discovered to yield a more profitable crop than farming, 1809 Presentments John Arundel, William and John Swanton, Ballydehob, Alexander O’Driscoll, Skibbereen, John and William Warner, Bantry, Samuel Townsend Henry Ryan, Skibbereen, Later, Birds and Tobins of Kilcrohane, Moss and Nicholas Families Durrus, Shanahans Dunbeacon, Vickeries Ballycomane, Fitzgeralds Baltimore.

The latter families many intermarried and with McCarthys, O’Sullivans, Murnanes of  Letterlickey, Catholic Shannons of Brahalish.

The Fitzgerald are probably the ancestors of JFK’s mother.

Later c 1830s records show the Tobins securing contracts with the Birds of Bantry (Birds and Tobins local agents Lord Bantry) for areas quite distant from home place almost like Irish ‘subbies’ in England.

In 1739 (13 Geo. II, 20 c. 10) Grand Juries were given the power of acquiring any land, other than built-up areas or private gardens, avenues and orchards, that was needed for new roads, and though damages were payable it was the jury itself that assessed them. In fact there was little objection to finding room for new roads in a country where land was owned in large blocks and used extensively rather than intensively.

From Professor Andrews former geographer TCD:

Indeed in the last analysis it was the Irish tradition of low yielding husbandry that made many middle-class tenants and small gentry so assiduous in their efforts to secure road contracts as a supplementary source of income : as one Co. Limerick landowner succinctly expressed it, ‘roads are discovered to yield a more profitable crop than farming.’10 Grand Jurors were thus subject to pressure from their friends and dependents to present money for roads whether they were necessary or not, and inevitably new lines proliferated.

Cork Grand Jury 1890 presentments p.128-9.

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1729 Turnpike Trust. 1822 Cork, Skibbereen and Kinsale Turnpike (Toll Road), Tolled to 1843. 1839 Funding by Commissioner of Public Works, Loan to Trustees of Cork, Skibbereen and Kinsale Turnpike, For road from Castletownbere to Dursey Island, For a Railway From Certain Bogs to Supply Cork with Turf.


1729 Turnpike Trust.  1822 Cork, Skibbereen and Kinsale Turnpike (Toll Road), Tolled to 1843.  1839 Funding by Commissioner of Public Works, Loan to Trustees of Cork, Skibbereen and Kinsale Turnpike,  For road from Castletownbere to Dursey Island, For a Railway From Certain Bogs to Supply Cork with Turf.

In the early 18th. century the Irish roads were generally of a very poor quality.  The Turnpike Trust was an attempt to improve by sponsoring private Acts of the Irish Parliament for new or to maintain existing road schemes. These were to be funded by the users.

Another Northern European country, Denmark, not invaded by the Romans and not having their roads, also had a major road problem in the mid 18th century.  An Irish Engineer based in Denmark produced a recent paper on the subject.  In the case of Denmark, the King brought in French Engineers c 1750 to lay out a national road system, which lasted to the 1960s.  The French planted  trees alongside the roads something happily replicated in the Irish Motorway Network post 2000, in the autumn the colours are amazing.

Simultaneously the Cork Grand Jury continued piecemeal improvements, added to by the great arterial schemes of Sir Richard Griffith and Nimmo in the 1820s.

The turnpike road to Skibbereen seems to coincide with the mail coach road of 1832 (ROAD PLANNING IN IRELAND BEFORE THE RAILWAY AGE By J. H. ANDREWS Trinity College, Dublin).

Before very long, in any case, the railways were beginning to distract attention from the problem of the trunk roads. In 1857 all the surviving turnpike trusts were liquidated on the ground that, since long distance traffic was now virtually monopolised by the railways, the roads could reasonably revert to county charge.  Four years later the mail coaches, now reduced to a mere 238 miles, made their last appearance in the postal section of Thorn’s annual directory: 

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1766, Lord Lieutenant Gives Assent to the Building of a Turnpike Road from Kanturk to Cork. May have been an early butter road.

Cork Turnpike Road Legislation

 

1731, Cork-Kilworth Mountain to Co. Tipperary border, tolls intended to last to 1752.

1779-80, tolls increased

1798, road privatised

1798, tolls on stagecoaches doubled

1799, tolls increased.

 

1731, Newcastle-Limerick-Cork, tolls intended to last to 1753.

1745, tolls increased road to go via Charleville.

1826, new Act.

 

1747, Listowel-Cork, original tolls to 1809

1767, adjustment of position of turnpike gates

 

1765, Kanturk-Fair Lane (Cork), tolls intended to continue to 1826 but only short length constructed

 

1790, Charleville to Cork City

 

1812, Cork-Tralee, tolls to 1833.

 

1822, Cork-Skibbereen-Kinsale, tolls to 1843

 

1825, Cork-Ballyhooly, tolls to 1846.

 

1830 Extension of Waterford-Cork, provisional only.

 

1857, all existing turnpike roads in Ireland abolished with effect from 5th April 1858

 

 

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1875. Landed Court Sale of Samuel Townsend lands at Caheragh and Islands of East Calf, Doneen, Travans where Tenants Make Large Quantities of Kelp from Seaweed.


1875.  Landed Court Sale of Samuel Townsend lands at Caheragh and Islands of East Calf, Doneen, Travans where tenants Make Large Quantities of Kelp from Seaweed.

 

1843, Cases of Trespass for Seaweed Extraction, Ballydehob, Skibbereen, Co. Cork, Magistrates Declining Jurisdiction for Extraction below Low water mark.

Gather Your Seaweed

Legal Dispute over Extraction of Seaweed at Friendly Cove, Durrus, West Cork, 1887.

The use of seaweed in farming, Edible seaweeds, rights to harvest seaweed attaching to land in townlands of Brahalish and Rossmoe, Durrus, West Cork, Rev. Caesar Otway 1822 on seaweed use Mount Gabriel/Dunbeacon.

Carrigín Cool na h-Orna, Rossmore, Durrus, West Cork, a hint of Pre-famine Agriculture and other Incorporeal Hereditaments.

Magistrate:

 

Samuel Townsend, Esq. DL?, Junior, Whitehall, Skibbereen. Bandon Brunswick Constitutional Club 1828, listed 1838,  sitting Skibbereen, 1835.  County Freeman of Cork City voting in Cork City Election 1837. Signed public declaration in Skibbereen to Alexander O’Driscoll on his removal as Magistrate 1835 with Lord Bantry, Simon White, John Puxley, Arthur Hutchins, Thomas Baldwin, Samuel Townsend Junior and Senior, Thomas Somerville, Richard Townsend Senior, Rev. Alleyn Evanson, Timothy O’Donovan, Richard Townsend, Lyttleton Lyster. Attending Famine Relief Meeting Dunmanway 1846.   Skibbereen 1847 as Reenadowna distress meeting. Attending Railway meeting Drimoleague 1856.  Bantry 1861, 1874 as Samuel R.,

 

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1848. Petition, House of Lords, London, From Schull, West Cork, for the Imposition of the Severest Penalties on all Roman Catholic Priests who shall Denounce Persons from the Altar.—From Members of several Lodges of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1848.  Petition, House of Lords, London, From Schull, for the Imposition of the Severest Penalties on all Roman Catholic Priests who shall Denounce Persons from the Altar.—From Members of several Lodges of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows

 

HL Deb 10 April 1848 vol 98 c70

Took the Oaths.—The Viscount St. Vincent. PUBLIC BILLS.—1a Mutiny; Marine Mutiny.

3a and passed;—Property Tax.

PETITIONS PRESENTED. From Schull, for the Imposition of the Severest Penalties on all Roman Catholic Priests who shall Denounce Persons from the Altar.—From Members of several Lodges of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows