1641 Depositions, Bantry, Schull, Co. Cork.


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After the rising of 1641 claims for compensation were submitted mainly from settlers of a Protestant background.  They have now been digitalized at Trinity Collegehttp://1641.tcd.ie/

Included in the list are some from the Bantry area;

Parish Durrus, Barony Bere and Bantry

823.76  Martha May and brother Nathaaniel May, he is described as a yeoman.

824.211 Nicholas Harvy, late Blackrock, yeoman

825.23  Raplh Oliver of Whiddy Island, yeoman

Parish of Kilmocoge

822.142 Thomas Moorecocke of Dromanare (Dromdoneen0, wheelwright

822.249 Thomas Heyford, of Bantry, Gent

822.273 Thomas Henry of Whiddy, yeoman

823.23 John Brown of Whiddy, yeoman

823.55 William Wood of Carir Inskeene (Inchinarihen?), joiner

823.87 John Winter of Bantry Parish husbandman

823.100 John Lak of Whiddy Island, husbandman

823.122 Thomas Moorcock, Dromanara (Dromdoneen), parish k , yeoman

823.143 Edmund McCarty of Bantry, yeoman

823.169 Valentine Gordon of Bantry, spinster, Scottish protestant

823.190 Anthony Blunt of Bantry, yeoman

824.149…

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Letter February 1841 from Timothy O’Donovan Esq., J.P. from 1818, to Dr. John O’Donovan, Discussed family Debt to Friendly Protestants who Held Land as ‘Nominees’ after Civil War of 1641, Lieutenant Colonel Richard O’Donovan, of the Enniskillen Dragoons, last Acknowledged Chief of the O’Donovans, Contested claim of the Revered Morgan O’Donovan to Chiefdom and His Opinion of Person entitled ‘A Struggling Farmer’, James Donovan, Coolderrha, Myross Parish, Skibbereen.


Letter February 1841 from Timothy O’Donovan Esq., J.P. from 1818, to Dr. John O’Donovan, Discussed family Debt to Friendly Protestants who Held Land as ‘Nominees’ after Civil War of 1641, Lieutenant Colonel Richard O’Donovan, of the Enniskillen Dragoons, last Acknowledged Chief of the O’Donovans, Contested claim of the Revered Morgan O’Donovan to Chiefdom and His Opinion of Person entitled ‘A Struggling Farmer’, James Donovan, Coolderrha, Myross Parish, Skibbereen.

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Lt Col Richard O’Donovan

Born Ireland 1768; Major in 6th Dragoons 19 December 1799; Lieutenant-Colonel 2 May 1800; brevet Colonel 25 July 1810; subsequently Major-General 4 June 1813; Lieutenant-General 27 May 1825; died Ireland November 1829.

O’Donovan’s Cove,

February 1st, 1841

Sir,

Your letter of the 18th last should not have remained unanswered for so long but I was waiting to obtain some additional information on the query pertaining to the family of O’Donovan, The late General Richard O’Donovan, Lieutenant Colonel of the Enniskillen Dragoons, was undoubtedly the Chieftain of the Clann or Sept of O’Donovan. He died at the family seat of Bawnlahan Barony of Carbery, County of Cork about 11 or 12 years ago. He was married to a Welch lady her name was Powell by whom he had no issue, he left his estate to his wife and upon her death which happened soon after she bequeathed it to her brother a Major Powell a Welch man in whom possession it is at the moment and this ancient seat and property is now in the possession of a Welsh man.

The title of “O’Donovan” was after the general’s death affected by a Protestant Clergyman Morgan O’Donovan, but the claim was not recognised by the members of the O’Donovan family.

I am descended from a branch of the House of O’Donovan, who were obliged to fly the County Cork in the Civil wars of 1641 who took refuge in Co. Limerick, a considerable tract of land was protected in trust by the intervention of “Nominees’ who behaved in those olden days with great and fidelity honour to my ancestors.

This seat seat of O’Donovan’s Cove sits in the Parish of Kilcrohane ..in the part of the Barony of West Carbery and County of Cork. It is my property by inheritance my younger brother, Doctor Richard O’Donovan who has an independent estate resides at Norton Cottage, Skibbereen, we are both in the Commission of The Peace of Co. Cork.

There are several respectable family of the anem who do not affix the “‘O” to the name.

I believe we are the two of the Sept of O’Donovan here the largest landed property in respect of the west of the county.

The most ancient document were in the hands of the late James Donovan, Esq., M.D., Clonakilty, I do not know if they are in the possession of his sons, one of whom is a barrister in London the other is the Clerk of the Crown for Co. Cork, they are my first cousins.

Bawnlahan the family seat of the Chief O’Donovan is near Skibbereen and is a respectable old residence and domaine.

With respect of the information as to who is the senior or head of the O’Donovan family at present, I cannot inform you. who it is . It is of little import as a matter of courtesy it would be conceded to me by the great majority of of the representative of the Clan but I am not satisfied as to the strict right of my claim, and I would not assent to it.

I believe a person of the name of James Donovan, of Coolderrha. Parish of Myross, Barony of West Carbery, now reduced to the position of struggling farmer, a person of excellent character is the eldest representative of the House of O’Donovan.

I have given you all in my possession in response to the queries in your letter.

I shall be most happy to meet you here to discuss when the pedigree of our ancient family over a glass of good wine.

Yours etc

To:
John O’Donovan,
21, Great Charles Street, Dublin.

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Jack Attridge, Gearhameen, Durrus, West Cork, c 1920-50 with Skeleton of his Sandboat on Dunmanus Bay and Home Made Threshing Machine.


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Jack Attridge, Gearhameen, Durrus, West Cork, c 1920-50 with Skeleton of his Boat on Dunmanus Bay and Home Made Threshing Machine.

Courtesy St. James History.

The boat was built with timbers felled from around the Grain Store at Friendly Cove across the bay. Theyb were then floated across the bay to the Priest’s Gate, Gearhameen. The boat was probably a sand boat. The winch was installed but not the engine so it never went into service but would be representative of that type of craft.

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Lieutenant General Richard O’Donovan of the Enniskillen Dragoons (c1764-1829), Chieftain of the O’Donovans, Bawnlahan, West Cork.


Lieutenant General Richard O’Donovan of the Enniskillen Dragoons (c1764-1829), Chieftain of the O’Donovans, Bawnlahan, West Cork.

Extract 1841 from letter to Dr. John O’Donovan from Timothy O’Donovan, Esq., J.P, O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus re Chieftainship of family:

The late General Richard O’Donovan, Lieutenant Colonel of the Enniskillen Dragoons, was undoubtedly the Chieftain of the Clann or Sept of O’Donovan. He died at the family seat of Bawnlahan Barony of Carbery, County of Cork about 11 or 12 years ago. He was married to a Welch lady her name was Powell by whom he had no issue, he left his estate to his wife and upon her death which happened soon after she bequeathed it to her brother a Major Powell a Welch man in whom possession it is at the moment and this ancient seat and property is now in the possession of a Welsh man.

The title of “O’Donovan” was after the General’s death affected by a Protestant Clergyman, Morgan O’Donovan, but the claim was not recognised by the family.

Becher Estate:

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=2436

Survey 15th March 1727, of O’Donovan Estates, Bawnlahan including townlands of Coolagow, Bawnlahan and Cuppogh, West Cork.

The ‘Caoin’ lamentation akin to Hebrew Cina in Cork and Kerry from Crofton Croker including for Sir Richard Cox in 1733 mentioning his relations O’Donovans of Bawnlahan, Townsends of White Court Skibbreen, Dunmanway and O’Donoghue, Aughadown, West Cork.

Some O’Donovan, Bawnlahan, West Cork, deeds, conveyances, settlements, leases mortgages including to Samuel Jervois, Brade, from 1619

Survey and Map by Robert J Wolfe December 1835, of Estate of Major Edward Powell (Estate of the Late Lieutenant Colonel Richard O’Donovan of the enniskillen Dragoons by his marriage with Miss Powell of Wales) at Drinagh, West Cork showing Major Tenants, Keelnacolly, Corrigfadda, Corrigagrinane, Kippagh, Knockmore, Corriglas Pike mentioned.

http://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Richard%20II%20O%27Donovan&item_id=737051

General Richard O’Donovan II, The O’Donovan of Clancahill, born 1764 or 1768, was the son of Jane Becher, daughter of John Becher, and Daniel V O’Donovan, The O’Donovan of Clancahill.

Gaining the rank of General in the service of the 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoons, O’Donovan fought in the Napoleonic Wars, in the Flanders Campaign and in Spain. He became an intimate acquaintance of the English Prince Regent, and saved the life of the Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany during the retreat of the English Army from Holland.

O’Donovan held the Chiefship of Clancahill in 1778. He married a Welsh lady, Emma Anne Powell, daughter of Robert Powell, but they were without issue. Richard O’Donovan then overturned his father’s will and left his entire estates, including the Manor of Bawnlahan, to her family, to the immense displeasure of his own, it being the very last of the O’Donovan family’s by that time 600-year-old estates in Carbery still in existence. He died in 1829, but to this day is remembered with anger. The Chiefship of Clancahill then passed to the cadet line, descendants of Teige, younger brother of Donal III O’Donovan.

Technically the Manor of Bawnlahan was erected in the later 17th century by Donal IV, but it was a descendant of the earlier Manor of Rahine erected by Donal II, on lands conquered by his father Donal of the Skins from a rival sept, the O’Donovans of Sliocht Íomhair. Thus they had been in the possession of the greater family since the 13th century.

Notes
References
Burke, Bernard and Hugh Montgomery-Massingberd, Burke’s Irish Family Records. London: Burke’s Peerage Ltd. 5th edition, 1976.
Burke, Bernard and Ashworth Peter Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Ireland. London: Harrison & Sons. 9th edition, 1899. pp. 341–2
Sir Richard Cox, 1st Baronet, Carberiae Notitia. 1686. extracts published in Journal of the Cork Historical and Archaeological Society, Volume XII, Second Series. 1906. pp. 142–9
O’Donovan, John (ed. & tr.), Annala Rioghachta Eireann. Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters, from the Earliest Period to 1616. 7 vols. Dublin: Royal Irish Academy. 1848-51. 2nd edition, 1856. Volume VI, pp. 2459–60
O’Hart, John, Irish Pedigrees. Dublin: James Duffy and Co. 5th edition, 1892. p. 201

Léim an tSagairt (Priest’s Leap) 1612 or possibly Earlier from Francis 1589 map


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http://mountainviews.ie/summit/413/?PHPSESSID=5l2kk35md6ud3ch7btht5jvsa1

General Area:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Coomhola,+Co.+Cork/@51.7943944,-9.4619443,18z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x48450c38d934d315:0xd0a2a192985b3ca6

Priest’s Leap 1612.

Thanks to Peter O’Driscoll, San Francisco

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NDTPl1L185Mv2CB_S7vCBjBLx7-xHlgaS0Br286x6hk/edit

Some history about the Priest Leap Poem; Edward O’Connor was the school master in the National School at Dromore in the parish of Caheragh between Bantry and Skibbereen/Drimoleague from 1930s until his retirment in December 1951. He was the teacher of the boys class or grades 5, 6, 7, & 8 until the mid 1940s and then the students were mixed both boys & girls. One of his demands or requirments was that all of his students would learn the poem of the Priest Leap.

The Priest Leap Poem was found written in faded lined paper with an ink pin (from the school desk ink-well). This copy of the poem had been written by a former pupil of Edward O’Connor.
So now you now know the family story on the Priest Leap. Attached is a video…

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Kilcrohane Church, Muintervara, Inscriptions and Stained Glass to Members of McCarthy, O’Mahony, Tobin, O’Donovan and Murphy Families


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Kilcrohane Church, Muintervara, Inscriptions and Stained Glass to Members of McCarthy, O’Mahony, Tobin, O’Donovan and Murphy Families

Building of Star of the Sea Church, Kilcrohane, West Cork, 1897, for £1,750, Builder Patrick Sullivan of Seskin, Bantry, Architect, Samuel F Hynes FRIBA, 41, South Mall, Cork, the Contractor was Father Kearney who is to supply local stone, gravel and sand and carriage from Durrus Road station or the landing Place, Dunmanus Bay.

Samuel Hynes, Architect, (1854-1931), among his Commissions, Convent of Mercy Chapel and Munster and Leinster Bank, Bantry, Kilnamartyra School. Star of the Sea Church, Kilcrohane, West Cork, Presentation Convent, Melbourne, Australia.

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Rev. Alleyn Evanson, December 1829, Curate Schull, States 1,200 Protestants in His Parish, Prisoner on The Treadle and New Court Houses for Cork City and County About to Be Erected.


Rev. Alleyn Evanson, December 1829, Curate Schull, States 1,200 Protestants in His Parish and New Court Houses for Cork City and County About to Be Erected.

This was probably only a brief period for him to Minister. Most of his tie was as an unbeneficed clergyman managing his Estates in Durrus and Kilcrohane and acting as a Magistrate from Durrus Court, Gearhameen.

The Courthouses are presumably the ones which burnt down and were replaced by the present Courthouses in Washington Street, Cork.

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Memorial to The O’Dalys of Muintiravara, For Many Centuries Prior to 1600 Sub-Chiefs to the McCarthy Mór and The Desmonds, Active in The Munster Wars For Religious And National Freedom. They Suffered Confiscation, Exile and Local Extinction.


O’Daly Bardic School:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Dromnea,+Co.+Cork/@51.5847637,-9.6764086,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48459d1f5958ced3:0x2600c7a819bb5172

Memorial to The O’Dalys of Muintiravara, For Many Centuries Prior to 1600 Sub-Chiefs to the McCarthy Mór and The Desmonds, Active in The Munster Wars For Religious And National Freedom. They Suffered Confiscation, Exile and Local Extinction.

Francis Jobson’s Map of West Cork, 1589 including Cape Clear (Iniskyran), Baltimore, O’Driscolls, Rosbrin, Crookhaven, Bantry, Muintervara land of Rymers (O’Daly’s Bardic School), O’Sullivan Bere, Priest’s Leap.

O’Daly Bardic School 13th to 17th century, Dromnea, Kilcrohane West Cork, pupils including two sons of the King of Spain, descendants founding Daly’s Distillery, Cork.

Dr. John O’Donovan, The O’Daly Family (Bards Muintervara) 1852, Extract

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Subscribers to the New Church at O’Donovan’s Cove (Rosnacaheragh Ahakista), West Cork, 1826, including Major contribution from Messrs, Beamish and Crawford, Brewers, Cork, Stained Glass provided later By Arundel Family and Rosnacaheraagh National School 1885.


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Subscribers to the New Church at O’Donovan’s Cove (Rosnacaheragh Ahakista), West Cork, 1826, including Major contribution from Messrs, Beamish and Crawford, Brewers, Cork, Stained Glass provided later By Arundel Family and Rosnacaheraagh National School 1885. In the photographs, the back windows are in the style of if not the early 19th century windows. Members of the Arundel family associated with the church are buried in the grounds.

Beamish and Crawford were until 1833 the largest brewery in Ireland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamish_and_Crawford

The O’Donovans referred to were the local landlords and unusually Catholics, they held the land from around 1750, Fort Lodge is still extant on a hill in poor condition and currently for sale. Wises are probably the Cork Distilling family of the North Mall. The Galweys may have bantry connections. The Tobins were a prominent Kilcrohane family.

The Evansons were landlords and the Rev. Alleyn Evanson, living at Durrus Court…

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Request by Thirty Four Named Householders, with A Valuation of at Least £20, for the Commencement of Lighting and Cleaning of Skibbereen, West Cork, 1828


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Request by Thirty Four Named Householders, with A Valuation of at Least £20, for the Commencement of Lighting and Cleaning of Skibbereen, West Cork, 1828

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