Effect of Penal Laws. Sons Of Irish Catholic Aristocratic Families Requirement to Produce Genealogical Proof for Crown Service on the Continent 17th 18th and 19th centuries.


Effect of Penal Laws.  Sons Of Irish Catholic Aristocratic Families Requirement to Produce Genealogical Proof for Crown Service on the Continent 17th 18th and 19th centuries.

 

 

From Dr. Albert Casey, O’Kiev Cishe Mong

 

Discovery of Lost Vellum Manuscript, documenting the Genealogy of the Very Ancient and Illustrious House of the O’Reillys, formerly Princes and Dynasts of Breifne O’Reilly, now called the County of Cavan in the Kingdom of Ireland, over 1,000 years in Munich 2008, Irish presence in Cuba, 18th century and Irish named street escape Castro embargo on Spanish Street Names Havana.

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Biographical data from Kerry Evening Post 1824-1864 and other papers including Cork details gleaned by O’Connell Brothers (Basil and Donal) in the 1950s


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Biographical data from Kerry Evening Post 1824-1864 and other papers including Cork details gleaned by O’Connell Brothers (Basil and Donal) in the 1950s. They were descendants ofDaniel “Connell and Basil wrote the O’Connell Tracts.

Dr. Casey has this in Vol 6 and 7 of the O’Kiev Cishe Mang

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1802. Dr. Bryan O’Connor Born c 1766, Bantry, West Cork, Transported to Australia for United Irishmen Offences. Papers from Australian Archives 1802.


1802.  Dr. Bryan O’Connor Born c 1766, Bantry, West Cork, Transported to Australia for United Irishmen Offences .  Papers from Australian Archives 1802.

The Limrick family. My great great grandmother (Mark O’Connor, Australia) was Ann Limrick Starkey (Starkie) born in Rosscarbery to Wm Starkie and Anna Maria Alcock, (her father was the nephew of Henry Alcock of wilton in Co. Wexford. Her father was Wm Henry Loftus Alcock, transported with his brother in law Dr Bryan O’Connor of Bantry to Australia for being United Irishman and Wm for visiting Dr Bryan O’Connor in Goal.

Dr Bryan O’Connor’s wife was Jane McCarthy. A Florence McCarthy and another McCarthy were transported to Australia with Bryan. Florence must have died as he was not heard from again.

The marriage  of Dr. Bryan O’Connor would explain his association with Barrister Alexander McCarthy.  Caheagh is Jane McCarthy’s her home place about 7 miles from Bantry possibly of one of the McCarthy family the major landowner pre 1650 of the area later probably middle men

Dr Bryan O’Connor did in fact return to Ireland after receiving a full pardon in 1809, his brother in law, Wm Henry Loftus Alcock, never did return to Ireland from Australia. Dr O’Connor had a medical practice in Clonakilty, where he lived with his wife Jane until he passed away in Clonakilty in 1830 from Basil O’Connell Newspaper Extracts, Dr Casey:

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Mark O’Connor found Bryan O’Connor courts martial but was unable to locate either Wm Alcock’s courts martial papers or information on his uncle General Prescott.
 Both the Alcock and Loftus families were mad at him because he married a Catholic woman, Mary Lavina O’Connor, and visited his rebel brother in law in goal.  His uncle Henry Alcock who had inherited the Wilton estate, had told the British his tenants were loyal to the crown and there was no need to search them for pikes. Of course, when the rebellion started, Wilton tenants had pikes and joined the fight. They may have wanted William punished to show loyalty to the crown
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Transportation to Botany Bay, Australia of Doctor Bryan O’Connor (b c.1766) and Alexander McCarthy, Barrister, Both Bantry, West Cork, after Abortive United Irishmen Rising, Ireland, 1798. Plea for Clemency Arthur Hutchins, Magistrate, Ardnagashel, Bantry.

Sale 1857 O’Connor/Jagoe Estate Bantry Landed Estates Court:

https://wordpress.com/post/durrushistory.com/28490

Jagoe/O’Connor family early draft paper:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUdGCfdeEbJn6ShqXrwqtxFd3GNOhAaSJneNt9NtSKY/edit

Courtesy Elizabeth Thorn, Australia:

To His Excellency Governor King &c &c &c The Memorial of William Henry Alcock

Your memorialist on the presumption that his name is among those Your Excellency has now the goodness to transmit to Government humbly approaches your Excellency with a Very few Lines.

That your memorialist previous to his being sent here, had served in His Majestys Troops, both of the line and Militia, abroad & at Home; the space of eleven Years –and during the Whole of the late Rebellion, actually fought; and to the utmost of his abilities, acted against those very Men as one of whom he has been sent here! That, visiting Dr O’Connor, his Brother in Law in prison; was construed into a correspondence with the Rebels – Doubly criminal in him as a British Officer: at least, rendered so by the complexion of the Times; and immediately laid hold of by a party more of family than political; who succeeded, notwithstanding the unblemished character given him even by his prosecutor; in working his ruin. Inshort could he lay before your Excellency the proceedings of the Court Martial; they alone he trusts, would exculpate him from even the shadow of suspicion. They were so unsatisfactory to his Excellency the Marquis Cornwallis, that he ordered them to be revised. But his Family prevailed; and, your memorialist fill a Sacrifice.

That your memorialists situation here is more irksome & unpleasant, than can be easily imagined [Page 67]

cut off from that Part of society to which he feels he belongs and his former habits of life, also, rendering him unable to help himself manually as others, he is actually in want of all the comforts; & many of the necessaries of Life .

That as your memorialist came out here stigmatised with the appellation of Rebel; and that every member of his Family is firmly attached to the sacred person of His Sovereign; Your memorialist wishes not to return to Europe until he has by his conduct, evinced to them & to the World his similarity of sentiments, & thereby insured to himself their countenance. But if your Excellency would grant him a conditional pardon he would with your Excellency’s permission & approbation go to India, where he has near relations high in the Service of the Government – His Uncle General Prescott & Family by whose influence, he might again be received in the military line; and hereafter return to Europe with credit.

In granting this you Excellency would be the means of restoring your memorialist to that character he has, in the World’s Eye, lost, and to all the comforts of a Rank, not the lowest in Society – His gratitude would then be equal to that respect & veneration with which he now is –

Your Excellency’s
Most Obedient humble ServantWm. H. Alcock

Philip Gidley King – letters received and other papers, 1794 – 1807 MLMSS 710
Mitchell Library, State Library of NSW

Letter from Bryan O’Connor to P.G. King, 1 May 1802 Sir

Your Excellency will humanely forgive this Mode of addressing you as the only means I have of most humbly assuring you nothing was even more foreign to my mind than an Idea of giving you, Sir, any offence, by any remark I might, from the impulse of the moment have been led to make in you presence.

Unconscious of having committed any offence, my feelings were wounded, but I trust to your Clemency to pardon any impropriety they might have hurried me into, and I remain, Sir,

Your Excellency’s most obedient And faithful humble Servant

Bryan O’Connor Sydney Goal May 1st. 1802

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Letter from Bryan O’Connor to P.G. King, undated

His Excellency Philip Gidley King Esqe.
Governor of New South Wales

The Dutiful and Humble petition of Bryan O’Connor Most Respectfully sheweth

That your Excellency’s forlorn Petitioner feels & has felt the sincerest Contrition for having unfortunately Offended your Excellency.

That the most sacred Consciousness of Innocence, as to any Seditious or turbulent principles in the mind of your Excellency’s petitioner, your humble petitioner confidently makes his appeal to that God, who knows the secrets of all hearts, and trusts that the time will come when your Excellency will be convinced that there is not in the Colony a man, whose mind is more disposed to obedience, or whose Heart is less tainted with vicious or evil propensities, and if your Excellency will graciously deign to permit him to remain in this Territory, your petitioner will find Ample Security to any amount for his future quiet, consistent, loyal and dutiful Conduct. And in Gratitude bound will ever pray for you Excellency and the prosperity of the Country.

Bryan O‘Connor

You may be aware that Bryan O’Connor went out to Norfolk Island as assistant to the surgeon William Redfern. I am not sure of the circumstances but O’Connor ended up in gaol in 1802. Here are letters from him and his brother in law, William Alcock to Governor King.

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1817, William Hutchinson, Clonee, Gent., assigns to William Symms, Enaghotra, Goleen, a rent charge to cover debt, witnesses, William Dealy, farmer, Durrus, Bryan O’Connor, Doctor of Physic, Clonakilty.  Dr. O’Connor was exiled to Australia for United Irishmen offences but left home later.  His sister married John Jagoe (his father Kilronan, Dunmanway), Bantry his mother Young of fishing family related to Gosnells.  John Jagoe had a son John Jagoe a Barrister died in London c 1852 his descendants in Australia. 1814, marriage William Hutchinson, Mary Dealy.

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Transportation to Botany Bay, Australia of Doctor Bryan O’Connor and Alexander McCarthy, Barrister, Both Bantry, West Cork, after Abortive United Irishmen Rising, Ireland, 1789. Plea for Clemency Arthur Hutchins, Ardnagashel, Bantry.


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Transportation to Botany Bay, Australia of Doctor O’Connor and Alexander McCarthy, Barrister, Both Bantry, West Cork, after Abortive United Irishmen Rising, Ireland, 1789. Plea for Clemency Arthur Hutchins, Ardnagashel, Bantry.

This is an incidental to Paddy O’Keeffe (Bantry Businessman and Antiquarian ) researches into Blair family of Durrus.  McCarthy may be an attorney does not appear in Kings Inns records for Bantry.

Dr. O’Connor had three brothers at the time officers in the British Army.

Extended Jagoe/O’Connor family early draft document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUdGCfdeEbJn6ShqXrwqtxFd3GNOhAaSJneNt9NtSKY/edit

Emanuel Hutchins, Cregane Castle, Co. Limerick (of Bantry family) Plea for Clemency for Bantry United Irishmen Men, letter 11th August 1799, to The Lord Lieutenant for Bantrymen, Doctor Bryan O’Connor and Attorney, Florence McCarthy. This was against Transportation to Botany Bay.

Robert Swanton Ballydehob, Later Judge New York:

Robert Swanton, (1764-1840) Ballydehob, West Cork, member United Irishmen Directory arrest, imprisonment escape to New York where he was active in…

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1969, Testimonial by Dr. Albert Casey, Birmingham, Alabama, USA to Colonel Grove White (1852-1938)


1818, Tolls, Bandon, Bantry, Clonakilty, Enniskeane, Timoleague.


1818, Tolls, Bandon, Bantry, Clonakilty, Enniskeane, Timoleague.

Sale of Dunmanway Co. Cork, Lordship of Manor 1858, including Tolls of Ballygurteen fair, Patent allows 3 per year, 2 held, 1858, producing £30 per annum.

 

From ‘Harvey’s Jocular Medley’, ‘The Annual Fair will be held on the 13th May 1738 at Donovan’s Leap, (West Cork) now called Tonson’s Leap in West Carbery. Affords a place where vast numbers of cattle may be exposed fro sale. Free of customs and Tolls for three years. Having a glass of Whisky in a Tent at Balagurteen Fair (near Dumnanway), 1828 prior to emigrating to Canada.

Tolls and Frequency of Fairs in Baronies of Bantry and Bere and West Carbery, 9 Fairs Skull, Bantry 1843, 4 Fairs from a Grant by Duke of Devonshire, Dunmanway, 4 Fairs Ballygurteen, Clonakilty, 6 Fairs Goleen, 12 Fairs and a Weekly Market at Ballydehob, Lord Belhaven’s patent at Castletownbere. No Disturbances in Collecting Tolls Except at Bantry Once.

 

House of Commons, London, 1826 Question on Tolls in Skibbereen and Bridgetown also Skibbereen, Bantry.

 

Advertisement, 1842, in Irish with Roman script, by Thomas Swanton for Ballydehob Fair every Thursday for Pigs, Sheep, Potatoes, Butter, Fish, Free of Tolls together with original handwriting on Etymology of West Cork Irish for coffin

 

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The Devestation of The Great Famine in Durrus, West Cork, in Micro Detail from The Loan Reproduction Records 1830-1853


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The Devastation of The Great Famine in Durrus, West Cork, in Micro Detail from The Loan Reproduction Records 1830-1853

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGuvc8o800_q1O4g1A89XC-ULjOS_mgpd5rTj4aMfNU/edit#heading=h.m962wjbnm08d

Evidence of John Collins, substantial farmer  1844 re Local Loan funds 1844 Witnesses at Skibbereen (into Her Majesties Commissioners into The Law and Practice of Occupation of Land in Ireland.

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/11941/page/282493

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The Devestation of The Great Famine in Schull, West Cork, in Micro Detail from The Loan Reproduction Records 1830-1853


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Evidence of John Collins, substantial farmer  1844 re Local Loan funds 1844 Witnesses at Skibbereen (into Her Majesties Commissioners into The Law and Practice of Occupation of Land in Ireland.

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The Devestation of The Great Famine in Schull, West Cork, in Micro Detail from The Loan Reproduction Records 1830-1853

There are quite a number of poor Protestants described as paupers or in distress.   Also still a number of weavers.  Mass emigration

These records used to be publicly available on a UK Archive now being a paywall.

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1844. Witnesses To Her Majesty’s Commissioners into The Law and Practice of Occupation of Land in Ireland At Bantry (Rev Christopher Freeman Curate, Richard White Esq. Landlord, Michael Murphy Miller Middleman Donemark, William Neale, Rev. Somers Payne, Land Agent, John O’Connell Esq., Rev. Thomas Barry Parish Priest, Samuel Hutchins Esq. Landlord, Alexander Donovan, Timothy Connor, Cornelius Connor, Cornelius Henry Donovan, Skibbereen James McCarthy, John Collins, Rev. John Fitzpatrick, Rev. John Wright (Creagh, Receiver for 38 years to Sir William Becher), Rev. James Barry, Daniel McCarthy (Malster Brewer), Henry Newman Esq. (Land Agent Secretary Agricultural Society) Caheragh, Michael Sullivan Labourer, Thomas John Hungerford (Rosebank, Skibbereen Land Agent 18 years), Thomas Townsend Esq. (Smithville, Skibbereen, Half-Pay Lieutenant Royal Navy Land Agent for 10 Years to his Aunt), William Hedges Eyre Becher Esq., Magistrate Landlord 17,000 acres from Skibbereen to Crookhaven , Charles McCarthy, John Hayes Rosscarbery 130 acres, Bandon (Maskelyne Alcock Esq., Roughgrove, Bandon, Magistrate 300 acres, Daniel Connor Esq., Manch Magistrate, Chairman Board of Guardians, Landlord, Agent, Rev. William Hunter Presbyterian Minister 30 acres and 70 as undertenant, Benjamin Hosford, Maryville, Inniskear, 350 acres, Thomas Joseph Biggs Esq., Garryhandkardmore, Kinlea, Gentleman Farmer, Model Farmer 650 acres, William Anthony Spiller Esq., Upland Bandon Secretary Agricultural Society, Kinsale (William Henry Herrick Esq., Shippool Innishannon Magistrate Landlord, Thomas Herrick Esq., Coolkirky 650 acres, William Richard Meade Esq. Landowner 400 acres, Member Agricultural Society Barrister, Michael Forrest Farmer Meadstown Liscleary 240 acres,, William Dent Springhill Farmer High Constable barony Kerrycurry, James Bogue, Lahera, Bandon in Ireland over 6 years native Scotland, 315 acres. Part of the University of Southampton project making Irish Parliamentary records available on line. The report may be read online and gives good picture of the pre famine period.


1844.  Witnesses To Her Majesty’s Commissioners into The Law and Practice of Occupation of Land in Ireland At Bantry (Rev Christopher Freeman Curate, Richard White Esq. Landlord, Michael Murphy Miller Middleman Donemark, William Neale, Rev. Somers Payne, Land Agent,  John O’Connell Esq., Rev. Thomas Barry Parish Priest, Samuel Hutchins Esq. Landlord, Alexander Donovan, Timothy Connor, Cornelius Connor, Cornelius Henry Donovan,  Skibbereen James McCarthy, John Collins, Rev. John Fitzpatrick, Rev. John Wright (Creagh, Receiver for 38 years to Sir William Becher), Rev. James Barry, Daniel McCarthy (Malster Brewer), Henry Newman Esq. (Land Agent Secretary Agricultural Society) Caheragh, Michael Sullivan Labourer, Thomas John Hungerford (Rosebank, Skibbereen Land Agent 18 years), Thomas Townsend Esq. (Smithville, Skibbereen, Half-Pay Lieutenant Royal Navy Land Agent for 10 Years to his Aunt), William Hedges Eyre Becher Esq., Magistrate Landlord 17,000 acres from Skibbereen to Crookhaven , Charles McCarthy, John Hayes Rosscarbery 130 acres, Bandon (Maskelyne Alcock Esq., Roughgrove, Bandon, Magistrate 300 acres, Daniel Connor Esq., Manch  Magistrate, Chairman Board f Guardians, Landlord,  Agent, Rev. William  Hunter Presbyterian Minister 30 acres and 70 as undertenant, Benjamin Hosford, Maryville, Inniskear,  350 acres, Thomas Joseph Biggs Esq., Garryhandkardmore, Kinlea, Gentleman Farmer, Model Farmer 650 acres, William Anthony Spiller Esq., Upland Bandon Secretary Agricultural Society, Kinsale (William Henry Herrick Esq., Shippool Innishannon Magistrate Landlord,  Thomas Herrick Esq., Coolkirky 650 acres, William Richard Meade Esq. Landowner 400 acres, Member Agricultural Society Barrister, Michael Forrest Farmer Meadstown Liscleary 240 acres,, William Dent Springhill Farmer High Constable barony Kerrycurry, James Bogue, Lahera, Bandon in Ireland over 6 years native Scotland, 315 acres,

Part of the University of Southampton project making Irish Parliamentary records available on line. The report may be read online and gives good picture of the pre famine period.

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1817, Why Sinecures and Senior Customs Appointments Were So Remunerative, Roger Edward Green Esq., Collector, Kinsale, Co. Cork.


1817,  Why Sinecures and Senior Customs Appointments Were So Remunerative, Roger Edward Green Esq., Collector, Kinsale, Co. Cork.

Until the mid 19th century most Revenue appointments were by patronage.

Pay:

£500 salary besides a house, rent free, and percentage of Navy Payments and Fees on Flax seed etc