Dukelows (and Name Variations) in Catholic Church Records Mainly from Muintervara (Durrus and Kilcrohane) and Schull.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18rvi5vnt-5aCBx5oJ0vX0YrrTZCnyHbwNyKnCs0sqI8/edit

The Dukelows are of Huguenot origin and probably come to the Durrus area, Crottees from around 1740 possibly from Innishannon.  The landlord of that part of Durrus, the Evansons had Bandon links.  There are quite a number of families probably settled on their lands with Armagh links probably an attempt to introduce weaving and possibly flax cultivation.

Irishgenealogy.ie.  Online Catholic and Civil records:

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/captcha.jsp

The example of the Dukelows a ‘Protestant’ name in Catholic records can probably be replicated for most West Cork Protestant families.  Similarly in surviving Church of Ireland registers for the 17th century there are significant numbers of names with a Gaelic and Norman origin.

Additionally DNA results primarily in the USA from descendants of West Cork Catholics adn Protestant are indicative of some intermarriage in the 18th century.   Very few records from this periods have survived.  However there are some wills for the Swanton and Jervois families which make provision for non marital families with a local partner.  Graveyard inscriptions for example for Dunbeacon record a Catholic Townsend family married into the  Shanahans which is not contained in the Townsend family history.

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~townsend/tree/home.php

The consternation of the Limrick family in Goleen area early 18th century is recorded when ne of the sons married a local Catholic the ancestors of the Catholic line:

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~townsend/tree/home.php

Some Deeds, Marriage Settlements, Family Arrangements from c 1620 Bantry, Durrus, Schull area West Cork some of the names, Daly, Dukelow, Evanson, Jago, O’Connor, O’Sullivan, McCarthy, Swanton, Trenwith,Varian, Vickery, Warner.

The use of the Registry of Deeds Project as a Genealogical Aid, Some West Cork Names, Attridges, Beecher, Bernard, Coughlan, Cotter, Crowley, Dalys, Evans, Freke, O’Driscoll/Driscoll, Dukelows, Evanson, Hutchins/Hutchinson, Jennings, ]ago, Kingston, McCarthy, Mellifont, Murphy, Puxley, Shannon, Swanton, Somerville, O’Sullivan/Sullivans, Townsend, White, Woulfes, Vickeries, The Fund of Suitors of the High Court of Ireland and Mortgage Deed In Irish, Co. Clare 1540.

No Public General Access to 8 Million Irish Historical Records, some from 17th Century, Stored in a Portlaoise Warehouse, included in Deeds: Charters, Leases, Marriage and Family Settlements, Wills, Estate Maps, Mortgages, Tenant Listings, No Digital Photos at Registry of Deeds

The background is that by 1910 most of the farmland of Ireland was put into the ownership of the former tenant farmers, subject to the payment os an annual annuity. The Landlords lands were acquired on generous terms by the Land Commission. They had to provide legal title before any money was paid and the Land Commission’s Examiners of Title (one of who was Elizabeth Bower’s father, a barrister) had to certify. This is the reason for the 8 million records.

These records are literally historical and genealogical gold dust.  A mechanism may be to ask commercial companies to tender to digitalise such as Enneclan, Ancestry or FamilySearch.  They could then make available for a fee is necessary.

An example of one of the ‘closed’ records:

The official attitude is regrettable in view of the destruction of records in the Public Records Office in 1922.  Additionally in Cork a fire at the Courthouse in the 1880s destroyed most of the Grand Jury Cork records.  A similar dog in the manger attitude is discerned in the Registry of Deeds who hold over 4 million records.  They do not allow digital photos ,unlike the National Library and the National Archives.

There is an onus on Public Bodies to make the records of the Irish People available.

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 To ask the Minister for Agriculture; Food and the Marine if historians and genealogists can have access to records held by his department in a warehouse in Portlaoise in relation to the Land Commission; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
 
REPLY.

There are no immediate plans to make the 8 million or so records of the former Irish Land Commission (ILC)  generally available to the public for research purposes or otherwise as they are still working documents and have not been handed over to the National Archives. My officials regularly access these records to service queries from the public relating to current and past transactions and for the full completion of the work of the former ILC. Wider access will be a matter for consideration when the completion of the work of the former ILC is at a more advanced stage. The records which are available in paper format only are fragile, some dating back as far as the late 1800’s and are an irreplaceable resource should they get damaged. So in order to maintain them it is essential that they are handled and stored appropriately. Opening up access to these files cannot be considered until appropriate measures are undertaken to minimise potential damage from routine handling. While limited access is granted to persons on application, the office does not provide a research facility as the provision of such a service would require much greater resources than those currently available.   

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 DAIL QUESTION 

To ask the Minister for Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs when the next five years of the papers will be published in view of the fact that the years 1818 to 1822 of the Chief Secretary’s office registered papers by the National archives are published.. 

* For WRITTEN answer on Tuesday, 28th February, 2017.

Ref No: 10345/17

Minister for Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs (Heather Humphreys T.D.:

The Deputy is referring to a project at the National Archives, to catalogue to international archival standards, the Chief Secretary ‘s Office Registered Papers from 1818 to 1852. The Chief Secretary for Ireland was the Government Minister of the British Cabinet with responsibility for governing Ireland from the early 19th century until the end of British rule. This project will facilitate public access to one of the most valuable sources of original material for research on Ireland in the first half of the nineteenth century. There are currently three archivists employed on the project.  

The catalogue records for the years 1823 – 1827 have been completed and they are in the process of being edited for online publication in addition to the drafting of other contextual material.  It is expected that these will be made available on line later in 2017.

The project was originally made possible by a bequest from the late Professor Francis J Crowley.   Born in New Haven, Connecticut, Professor Crowley was educated at Yale and Princeton, and became a professor of French at the University of California at Los Angeles. Both his parents were born in Ireland, and in his will he bequeathed most of his estate to Ireland to be used for the preservation of records of the history of the Irish people.

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*  To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the reason the Registry of Deeds at Henrietta Street maintain a strict policy of no digital photos, which is contrary to the policy of the National Archives, the National Library, most universities and county council archives; and if she will make a statement on the matter.

– Richard Boyd Barrett 
 
REPLY. I can inform the Deputy that the Registry of Deeds is managed and controlled by the Property Registration Authority. Under Section 9(3) of the Registration of Deeds and Title Act 2006, the Authority is independent in the performance of its functions. The records held by the Registry of Deeds are public records. Certified copies of Memorial/ROD Application Forms filed in theRegistry of Deeds can be obtained on payment of the relevant fee. The fee for every certified copy of a memorial or application is €20. The fee for a plain copy of microfilm of a memorial or application is €1.00 per page.

In addition, the facility for on-line searching in the Registry of Deeds is available to all “landdirect.ie” business account holders. All such records dating from January 1970 have been digitised and users are now able to search records on-line from 1970 to date and can also order Official Searches and Copy Memorials/Application Forms on-line. (Non-account holders may access these records at the Public Office in the Registry of Deeds.)

I am advised that in 2012 the Authority gave consideration to the use of digital photography for persons accessing copies ofRegistry of Deeds records. However, records in the Registry of Deeds date back to 1707 and can be fragile, requiring very careful handling and, occasionally, supervised access. As part of the review, the Authority considered all aspects including the potential social and business re-use of the records in the light of its available resources. The Authority decided to maintain its current policy due to operational reasons, i.e. the scale of resources that would be required operationally to supervise access to the records and in addition, the risk of potential damage and wear and tear of the record books. I am advised that the Property Registration Authority has no current plans to change the “no photography” policy in the Registry of Deeds as access to the records is through the Registration of Deeds Rules 2009-2013, subject to the fees as set out in the Registry of Deeds (Fees Order) 2008.  

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1787 Address from The Grand Jury of The County of Cork, Mansion House, to The Right Worshipful Samuel Rowland, Esq., Mayor of Cork, At Spring Assizes.

https://books.google.ie/books?id=T7oRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=dr.+william+walker+cork+1740&source=bl&ots=HGXVkiyYZs&sig=gayk6-v7Mupg1tRj0dZNoJmXmT8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjD9uTvkNHUAhULJMAKHYSRBGE4ChDoAQg9MAQ#v=onepage&q=cork&f=false

Cork Grand Jury:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGCxYYvCGNEbpzypv-6tdTnz78HsuF_YJELLh9ezWvM/edit

Dukelow Family (Plus Name Variations in Catholic Records Mainly Durrus and Schull and Local Loan Fund Records (1835-1853), Connected Dukelow, Swanton and Hurley families Later Prominent in Fenian Circles, London.

Dukelow Records:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c550F3fK7ZT0qUzH4DjP4I87TPHU5-yK-l4D-_cH-E4/edit

Origin Dukelow family, including Coughlan, Baker, Kingston and Williamson ancestors

Nexus: Picton, Ontario and Muinterbhaire and Mizen Peninsulas, Williamson, Baker, Attridge, Dukelow, King, O’Sullivan and Hurley families

Records of South West Cork families such as Dalys, Haggertys, Swanton, Jagoe. Lannin, Levis, Dukelow, Beamish, Harrington, Mahony, McCarthy, Stout, Kingston, Raycroft, Jennings. Skuce, in Registers of Rochester New York, Register Mount Hope Cemetery, Rochester, Rochester Genealogy Relevant Canadian Records.

Henry Bryan, and Extended Dukelow, Durrus family, from Knockeenboy, Dunmanway, West Cork, 1855-1930 was a fluent Irish speaker, musician and folklorist. He moved to Glenville in 1892 and his house became a mecca for travellers from other parts of Ireland for folklore and Irish stories.

60 men seen drilling in a field in Durrus, West Cork in Fenian times, London, Rochester New York and Chinese family connections.

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1833, Sample of 17th and 18th Century Cork Wills, Transcribed by Denis O’Callaghan Fisher, Solicitor and Genealogist  prior to 1922 Destruction.

Some of his enormous work can be viewed at the National Library, Manuscript Library, Genealogical Section, Kildare,St., Dublin.

Holdings:

http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531512#page/1/mode/1up

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1747 Lease and Release and 1770.  Mortgage Given by Richard Tonson Esquire, Dunkettle, Cork to Charles Coughlan of Carrigmanus of Lands at Dunlough otherwise Three Castle, Goleen, West Cork.

Tonsons are descendants of Hulls of Leamcon, Schull.

Part of 1833 collection transcribed prior to 1922 destructions by Denis O’Callaghan Fisher his brother the Rev. Fisher of Toormore.

Case in Cork Assizes 1844 arising from Lands at Carrigmanus of Charles Coughlan Great Grand Father of Ann Jagoe and Alice Dowe, His Son Richard Married Miss Driscoll 1768 and made a Settlement. Litigation over Validity and Provenance of Wills. Names mentioned O’Sullivan, Notter, Simms, Young

Extract from Chichester House Claim of Joshua Doe 1700, Partial genealogy of Jagoes Dunmanway, Birds, O’Connor, Youngs of Bantry, Coughlan and Dowes, Gosnell, Carrigmanus.

1700, Dives Downes on Kilmoe (Ballydehob/Schull/Crookhaven), West Cork, Lands Recently Forfeit by Coppinger and O’Mahony now Hull, Bishop of Cork, Colonel Beecher, Earl of Cork, in Crookhaven, Arthur Hyde, Thadeus Coghlan/Coughlan, Rectories College of Youghal control Wrested from Earl of Cork by Lord Strafford, Old Chapel at Kilkanget near Dunmanus Castle, In O’Sullivan Country Universally Observed as Festival St Roan’s Day, Tithes on Fishing, later Rev. Fisher, Teampall na mBocht.

Geneaolgy of Arnopp family in Dunmanway, Crookhaven and Kinsale, Co. Cork from 1666, related to Hulls of Leamcon, Evansons of Durrus, Coughlans of Crookhaven

Case of disputed Glebe Lands at Crookhaven, West Cork c 1723, by Rector, Dr. Limerick, referes to Genealogy of Thadues Coughlan, his son Rev Dermitius Coughlan who fled 1641 from Cromwell his great grandson Jeremy (Jeremiah) Attorney and Irish Agent to Burlington Estate, on the road from Schull to Crookhaven ‘nor a bed a man can lie on nor a morsel to be eaten’, Henry Becher’s Fishing palace 1641, Captain William Hull with the wooden leg, Darby Mahony agent to Sir Richard Hull, Donagh McWilliam Coughlan proctor to Rev Thadeus Coughlan, Benjamin Sullivan Attorney Cork and East India Company Connections.

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