A Talk to Commemorate the 150th anniversary of Bantry Methodist Church Building (now Dr Matt Murphy;s Surgery) by David Ross & Abraham Kingston.

 

When:  Monday 29th February 2016 @ 8.00pm

 

Where:  Christian Fellowship Church Bantry

There were at least two Alexander O’Driscolls JP in the Skibbereen area one Catholic the other possibly Protestant. It is difficult to distinguish.

Alexander O’Driscoll, 1799, Clover Hill, Skibbereen, (two of same name in Skibbereen at the time not clear who is who) Middle man, 1824, Clover Hill, 1831, 1822, correspondence with Chief Secretary appealing dismissal of 1820. Superceded 1810-30, listed 1838, dead with address Mount Music/Bunaulin, Caheragh when daughter Kate married Herbert Baldwin Esq., 1845. 1835 Subscriber at Gortnascrena, Skibbereen, Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837.

 

Alexander O’Driscoll, Norton Cottage, Skibbereen (two of same name at time), Ancestor Alexander married daughter of McFineen Dubh O’Sullivan, son of Tim ‘The Gauger’, sister Mrs Freke of Baltimore Castle,  1827 attended dinner given by Jeremiah Murphy, Hyde Park, Cork with Catholic Bishop of Cork, Dr. Murphy, John Cotter, Perriers, Gibsons, Jonas Travers. 1835 Subscriber , The Hill, Monkstown, Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland  1837.  Ex-Officio Poor Law Commissioners 1839 at The Hill, Cork.

Alexander O’Driscoll Esq., sitting Passage West, 1835, Bantry Quarter Sessions 1842. Land record, Cork, 1870, 522 acres.

23rd November 1845, Skibbereen Kate O’Driscoll Herbert Baldwin Esq Mount Music (Bunaulin), Gortnamille Eldest daughter of late Alexander O’Driscoll She remarried James O’Sullivan, Esq., Bantry, in Macroom 16th April 1859 Cork Constitution

https://books.google.ie/books?id=aRJcAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA338&lpg=PA338&dq=magistrates+dunmanway&source=bl&ots=qJDaMC0XtZ&sig=2igkc459MepdQFM5KFY-5ltHzlA&hl=ga&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiB2NeIvPDKAhUBOg8KHbInD4IQ6AEILzAJ#v=onepage&q=magistrates%20dunmanway&f=false

Will of Alexander O’Donovan, Squince, Skibbereen, West Cork, Various Townlands, Farm at Myross, Fishery, Salt Store, Fishing Boat, Possible Grand Father-in-Law of Timothy O’Donovan, Justice of The Peace, and Grandfather of Rickard Donovan, First Catholic Clerk of the Peace for Co. Cork 1838 since the 17th Century.

The listing of townlands is either archaic or difficult to transcribe as is often the case in old memorials.

Courtesy Registry of Deeds Project.

The fishery element is interesting.  One of his grand daughters  married Timothy O’Donovan was clearly independently wealthy building a fine mansion at O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus.  In his written evidence to the Fishing enquiry in Bantry 1836 he has a remarkable grasp of the fishing business.   There are various historical references to branches of the O’Donovan family being involved as investors in the fishing business in the 18th century.

He bequeaths the estate to his son a Doctor.  Rickard Donovan’s father was a Doctor in Clonakilty.

Various branches of the family are referred to here:

The scholar Dr. John O’Donovan also had this name in his extended family.

 

For his researches:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCiBrLiBZtDkU8Ug5hZn9HnIZgfN1dvK2kkfaDUb600/edit

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16VJptRac8CKsG_ylR0Zm78DLE-rPwWHJ_q2n4HKpW5s/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eq_IayaxdUyWZWbpDf6LWlLNg7o-3tNJiqPGYIALy80/edit

 

 

http://irishdeedsindex.net/mem.php?memorial=345908

Any ideas where Squince House might be?

DESCENDANTS OF SAMUEL AND ELLEN JERVOIS:

(confirmed lines of descent are written in black text, probable but unconfirmed lines of descent in

red ).

1. Joseph Jervois d.c. 1798. m. ?

1. Frances E. H. Jervois m. Maurice Hewson.

2. Samuel Jervois m. (1797) Lucinda Alleyn.

1. Mary Anne Jervois b. c. 1799 m. 1819 William Scott (issue)

2. Ellen Jervois b.c. 1800 d. 1865 Lough Ine, Skibbereen m. Henry Owen Becher (issue)

3. Samuel Jervois b. 1801 d.1881 Skibbereen (Civil Record) m. (1832) eldest daughter of Alexander Donovan of Squince House Esq. (Nick Reddan’s newspaper extracts)

Fishing Business Bantry Bay, part of North Atlantic Fishery 17th Century.

The enclosed relates to Edward Davenant who leased part of Whiddy from the O’Sullivan estate.   From other sources it appears that the Bantry Fishery and those of Hull at Leamcon and Baltimore were part of a business financed from London. Also included would be the fishery in the West County of England and it appears that Hull also had a fishery in Newfoundland.

In the 1836 Fishery Enquiry in Bantry John Young of the family associated with fishing testified that c 1640 his family had lost a lot of money in the collapse of a Spanish Bank in Bilbao.

John Young re 1640:

Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Fishing Industry, sitting in Bantry April 1836. Evidence of Richard Young gave evidence that his great grandfather had lost £2,000 when a Finance House in Bilbao had collapsed. This may have been the Consulado de Bilbao in 1651

Hull:

Richard Boyle, Great Earl of Cork, on Sir William Hull of Leamcon, Schull and Sir Thomas Crook, founder of Baltimore who ‘Unjustly took his Falcons’, and Sir Fineen O’Driscoll gave him Falcons

The Descendants of Sir William Hull, 1600, Leamcon, Schull, West Cork, From Opulence to Penury.

Edward Davenant entry to Cambridge University 1584:

Courtesy Seamus Crowley, Mizen Journal 2001.

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17th century, Bantry

1612	Peter Akocke	Whiddy Island	Will Index
1629	Richard Steventon	Whiddy Island		http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/14/	http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/102/
1632	Agnes Predis	Bantry		http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/102/
4th November 1633	Edward Turner	Balligobane	Merchant. Wife and exectrix Joan presumably a widow as her husband haad been Newton, he was earlier married to Joan.	Eldest daughter Ann , Margaret. 3 daughters by Joan Sarah, Mary, Esther, four by wife of former husband Samuel, Jonas, John, Mary Newtown	Brothers Isaac, Henry Turner sister Sarah Hugett, England,	Oveseers Anthony Stowell Oneskayne (Enniskeane?), Edward Eyre, Durris, witnesses Edward Eyre, W. Snelling (active in fishing industry), Thomas Whiddington, Charles Dennis (the Bantry Dennises may dereive from him)	Welply’s wills. Snelling referred to as overseer was the subject matter of a peition wiht Edward Davenant by Gavin Gibsn, Vicar of bantry that they were withholding tithes. on pilchards. Further suit with Wiliam Davenant fish merchant brought by Mark Paget Vicar of Bantry 1637 re same went to House of Lords.
1632	Robert Marshall	Bantry		http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/102/	Dr. Casey Vol. 6
1637	John Hopton	Durrus		http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/102/
1637	Thomas Woods	Bantry	Will Index
1637	Margaret Johnson	Kilmocomoge			Cork and Ross Wills 1584-1800
1639	Edward Davenant	Whiddy Island	Will dated Whiddy 29th December 1636. He was brother of Bishop of John Davenant of Salisbury, active in Bantry Fishery since 1608 when he leased Whiddy Isladn from Sir Owen O’Sullivan’s widow.To son Edward D.D. New Sarum, Wilts	His father-in-law was Simms, London. One daughter marrried John Palmer of Whiddy, another son JOhn of Whiddy married Ann Boyle both drowned crossing to Whiddy 1641. William may have been anaother son.	Paddy O’Keeffe papers, Cork Archives
1641	JOhn Palmer, Ann Palamer nee Boyle	Whiddy	Drowned crossing. He son of Edward fish merchant English but in Whiddy. She may be related to Richard Boyel, earl of Cork.
1668	George Waters	Whiddy island and probably London	Gent	In his will he was posessed of 70 ploughlands in Bantry and Bere and an agent for the transport of soldiers to the Kng of Spain	Paddy O’Keeffe papers, Cork Archives
1669	Maria Galwey	Bantry		Dr. Casey Vol 6
1676	Henry Meagh	Newtown (Bantry?)		Dr. Casey Vol. 6
1679	Captain Cornelius Leury	Bantry		Dr. Casey Vol. 6
1881	John Beavill	Bantry
1681	John Crimin	Bantry		Cork and Ross Wills 1584-1800
1685	Walter Lang	Berehaven		http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/102/
1685	Simon Srevenson	Skarte (may not be Bantry Scart)		Dr. Casey Vol 6 from 1156
1686	Walter Lang	Berehaven		Cork and Ross Wills 1584-1800
5th Febuary 1707	Thomas Mandkocy?		Graave no 316, Abbey oldest		Paddy O’Keeffe survey
1707	Thomas Handcock	Bantry		http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/irishwills/#/102/	Cork and Ross Wills 1584-1800
Durrus
Pre 1600	Edward Eyres	Possibly born England	Named as overseer in will of Edward Turner, Ballygobbib (Bantry) 1633 with Anthony Stowelly, Enniskeane	Copied by Welply prior to destruction 1922

https://books.google.es/books?id=41USAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA66&lpg=RA2-PA66&dq=charles+evanson+cork&source=bl&ots=szky7P6LpI&sig=HlTzzjY2N0l8kPDAkGAk9gSVhc0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiXr5_w1ubKAhUCSxoKHXtVBnI4ChDoAQgbMAE#v=onepage&q=charles%20evanson%20cork&f=false

http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cork/1856/APR.html

https://books.google.es/books?id=2idcAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=alderman+charles+evanson+cork&source=bl&ots=tWVCtRAuSr&sig=ExB-DGB_aBZL4hN3_7SZlkDv0Dg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC8_Sv3efKAhXMDxoKHbVCCMUQ6AEIEzAD#v=onepage&q=alderman%20charles%20evanson%20cork&f=false