£3 note


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While reading the evidence before a parliamentary enquiry into land tenure taken in Bantry in 1844 and came across a reference to a tenant paying his landlord with a £3 note.  I never came across this before, I do remember the old orange 10 shilling note.

When I checked it out the history was interesting.  Ireland apparently joined sterling in 1825 (currency fluctuations are not new) and the Bank of Ireland was given authority to issue notes.  Included was the £3 and 30 shilling notes.

In 1844 a farm laborer was lucky to get 8p. per day and the salary of a Resident Magistrate started at £300 per annum.  If you took  a laborer now at a low €75 a day that would give the value of £3 at €6,750 or the pay of the modern equivalent of a Resident Magistrate a District Justice at €123K then the value of £3…

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A view of the Bay of Bantry c. 1700, British Library.


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A View of the Bay of Bantry upon the S.W. part of Ireland 38.b

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Artist : Unknown

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Date: [1700]   c.1700

Geographic coverage: -9.700000, 51.633331

Bantry Bay

Type: StillImage |    Topographical Drawing |

Subject: Bantry Bay, Cork, ireland |    George III, 1760-1820 — Art collections |   710 |

Relation: King George III Topographical Collection. Collect Britain

Description: View of Bantry Bay in Ireland. Richard Pococke (1704-1765) an Irish traveller, wrote the following words about Bantry Bay, when he journey there in 1758, ‘The bay as far as we could see it, lock’d in by the land, appear’d like a long lake, with beautiful Islands in it, fine small bays which they call coves and well cultivated heads of land making into it, and within them, small hills under corn, and all bounded by very high rocky mountains, at a proper distance, altogether making the most…

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Obituary of Canon T. J. Walsh, M.A., P.P., Cork Historian, 1984, former parish Priest of Durrus.


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Obituary of Canon TJ Walsh, Cork Historian, 1984.

Father Walsh’s writing display an amazing knowledge of sources of going back to original material and are a testament to his keen intelligence.  When he was Parish priest in Durrus in the 1960s his sermons ranged over historical figures such a Aonghus Ó Dalaigh the Kilcrohane poet, alas it was lost on his congregation.

History Balckrock Father Walsh c 1963

In time to come his work may again be appreciated by the public.

Father Séamus Coombes who wrote the obituary was himself a noted historian in particular of West Cork themes.

Companile erected 1860 by Alexander McCarthy, MP bronze plaques commemorating historical figures of McCarthy Sept, Diamond Hill, Blackrock, The Galweys of Dundanion, Joseph Nagle d 1757, Clogarán Cléireach (Mass Bells) and old bell of St. Michael’s now in Columbus, Georgia, USA from Father Walsh’s History Blackrock. Cork, c 1963

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Briseann an Duchais Trí Súil an Chait, The Maverick DNA of Black Jack Fitzgibbon, (Lord Clare 1749-1801), First Irish Born Attorney-General of the 18th Century, Pioneer of World-wide Metropolitan Policing, his sister Lady Arabella Jeffares, Blarney, Supporter of Tenant farmer and Rightboys, sister Eleanor married to Cork Barrister, Dominic Trant, the insult of Trinity Fellow Patrick Duignan to Father Arthur O’Leary, ‘The Friar with the Barbarous Surname’ and an account of the Cork Rightboys in 1785 by Cork Apothecary John Barrett Bennett.


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Briseann an Duchais Trí Súil an Chait, The Maverick DNA of Black Jack Fitzgibbon, (Lord Clare 1749-1801), First Irish Born Attorney-General of the 18th Century, Pioneer of World-wide Metropolitan Policing, his sister Lady Arabella Jeffares, Blarney, Supporter of Tenant farmer and Rightboys, sister Eleanor married to Cork Barrister, Dominic Trant, the insult of Trinity Fellow Patrick Duignan to Father Arthur O’Leary, ‘The Friar with the barbarous Surname’ and an account of the Cork Rightboys in 1785 by Cork Apothecary John Barrett Bennett.

Bennett’s account is reproduced in an article in 1984 JCHAS by James S. Donnelly Junior, of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.  He is a leading authority of Cork and its Political and land History.  He acknowledges his debt to his graduate student Irene Whelan Hehir who laboured for months in deciphering Mr. Bennett’s account written for family consumption in 1785.  Donnelly’s introduction sets out the overall backdrop in terms…

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Cork Blackrock and Passage Railway Route network, Railways, Steamers Cork Harbour, All year, Seasonal. Omnibuses, Great Southern and Railway Network Cork Area post 1909.


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https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Passage+West,+Co.+Cork/@51.8720621,-8.3362128,13z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4844849b81c2dae5:0x0a00c7a99731cef0

Cork Blackrock and Passage Railway Route network, Railways, Steamers Cork Harbour, All year, Seasonal. Omnibuses, Great Southern and Railway Network Cork Area post 1909.

From Colm Creedon’s Book.  Interesting how the Harbour area is treated as a unit.

Colm Creedon Chronicler of West Cork’s Railways (1849-1961) and Cork and Passage Railway (1850-1932).

https://durrushistory.com/2012/10/16/colm-creedon-chronicler-of-west-corks-railways/1-IMG_7014

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1838. Return of Manor Court Aughadown and Crookhaven, West Cork Seneschal Thomas English.


1838. Return of Manor Court Aughadown and Crookhaven, West Cork Seneschal Thomas English.

 

 

 

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Pawnbroker Registrations Cork City and County from 1810s in Cork Interrelated Families as Pawnbrokers and Sureties From Bantry District, Helens, Trenwiths, Bellingham Swan. Link to 1912 Thornton Family Genealogy.


Pawnbroker Registrations Cork City and County from 1810s in Cork Interrelated Families as Pawnbrokers and Sureties From Bantry District, Helens, Trenwiths, Bellingham Swan. Link to 1912 Thornton Family Genealogy.

This is from a Parliamentary report.  The report summary suggests that in Cork the occupation was not particularly remunerative.

The Thornton family is mentioned.  In 1912 one of the family living at Ashton House Blackrock in Cork later the school did a family genealogy listing the Bantry Youngs from mid 18th century, Helens, Trenwiths, O’Sullivans, Attridges, Swantons, Crowleys, Longs among others.   This Genealogy recently surfaced in Canada.  Some of these names appears in the pawnbroker list.

https://books.google.ie/books?id=-10SAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA188&lpg=PA188&dq=emanuel+trenwith+cork&source=bl&ots=OT0ETLjDc3&sig=ypBW3beySQt__ZiZQKEypOnstfo&hl=ga&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1iZ_RkIPOAhUMC8AKHSYABFUQ6AEIJjAC#v=onepage&q=%20cork&f=false

 

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1799. General Plummer Young, (c 1740-, Bantry born Siege of Seringapatam, India and Extended Bantry, Young Family, Fish Merchants. Land Owners, Apothecaries and Doctors in Bantry since c 1600.


  1.  General Plummer Young, (c 1740-, Bantry born Siege of  Seringapatam,  India and Extended Bantry, Young Family, Fish Merchants. Land Owners, Apothecaries and Doctors.

In the Paddy O’Keeffe (Bantry businessman and historian) there are a number of references to General Young.

Canadian Biography:  General #2 because of his age span of 1787-1863.  His daughter Harriet Jane Young, born in France in 1818, married a Freeth and is on Find-a-Grave.

General Plomer Young #1:  The  part about the siege of  Seringapatam (in India)   included in the Burke’s entry on William Cole and Jane Young must have been added after the fact.  The siege was in 1799 (or there may have been an earlier skirmish in the 1780s) well after the marriage notice of 1776 which stated that the bride’s brother was General P. Young.    If this is Plumer Young, he must have been born about 1740 to have been a General by 1776.

Regulations made in 1735 Between The Owners of Seine Boats in Bantry Bay, Dispute to be Determined by Mr Nicholas Mead at His House ‘Spread Eagle’ Presented to Fishery Enquiry 1836 by Mr. R. Young, and 1749 Bounty from Royal Dublin Society to Mr. Meade and Young for Fish Landings at Bantry.

The Young family were involved in the Bantry Fishery since at least 1600. The Youngs lived at Young’s Point possibly now the location of the Maritime Hotel. This was build on stores which were once Young property. There are descendants in the Dunmanway area.

Apothecaries/Doctors:

1818 John Young Apothecary 1829 return transcribed by Kae Lewis
1754 Plummer Young Apothecary? Lease 1754 Johm Goodwin, apothecary witnesses Walter Stephens, Plummer Young.
1846 Plummer Young Apothecary, Main St. Slater
1854 Plummer Young Apothecary and Registrar of Marriages
1857-1932 Plomer (Plummer) Young Physician and Surgeon Born at Leemount, Cork of extended Bantry Young family. Son of Henry Lindsay Young who was son of Goodwin of John of Robert Lindsays Cork Lawyers and landlowers. Related also to Curtis family.
1791, 1801, 1818 Samuel Young Apothecary 1829 return transcribed by Kae Lewis
1792 Samuel Young Apothecary 1800 set up own shop (the Youngs were in the fishing business since the 1640s)
1803, 1842 Dr. Samuel Young Doctor Deed names his son as life Samuel aged 16 in 1819. 1842 treated those injured in election riot

Goodwin Relations:

1754 , died John Goodwin Apothecary, near Great Bridge Mentioned in Bantry Estate Papers having lands at Breenybeg Lease 1754 Johm Goodwin, apothecary witnesses Walter Stephens, Plummer Young.
1770, dead by 1792 John Goodwin MD Doctor Property at strand leased from Simon White, for lives of Richard and Ruth Goodwin presumably children, there is a marriage between Ruth Goodwin and Henry Swan in 1784, and a Richard Goodwin and Sarah Hagerty in 1774 possibly the same. Bantry Estate papers, Reference in Vol 4 of London Medical and Physical Journal of Dr Barry’s Book on small pox of woman twice inoculated by Mr. Goodwin prob late 18th century. Assignment by two daughters of John MD deceased 1792 Mrs. Sarah Swan and Jane Goodwin spinster to John and William Blatchford, surgeons and apothecaries

The pilchard fishery was run in the early 18th century by the Galwey, Meade, Bird, Young, Vickery and Davies families.

Regulations made in 1735 Between The Owners of Seine Boats in Bantry Bay, Dispute to be Determined by Mr Nicholas Mead at His House ‘Spread Eagle’ Presented to Fishery Enquiry 1836 by Mr. R. Young, and 1749 Bounty from Royal Dublin Society to Mr. Meade and Young for Fish Landings at Bantry. 1748 James Young Landed 231 Barrells of Sprats, 482,000 Herrings. Nicholas Meade In 1749 Meade of Bantry obtained a premium from the Royal Dublin Society for having caught and cured 380,000 fish.

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Thomas Young Cotter 1805-1882, Bantry born First Colonial Surgeon 1835, South Australia. Related to Bantry Young Family, Fish Merchants.


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Looking up the Church of Ireland records for Bantry I came across Thomas  Young Cotter, born in Bantry in 1805.  His father Richard may have been born on Cloyne, Co. Cork and he married Ellen Young in London.  It is possible that she was of the Bantry Young family who were prominent merchants and engaged in the fishing business.  The Youngs are probably in Bantry since at least 1600. Richard was a purser with the Royal Navy in the West Indies and was late joined there by Thomas.

Thomas’s medical history is documented in a biography

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/cotter-thomas-young-1923

He had a literary turn editing the South Australian Magazine and The South Australian Almanac.  His father had earlier published ‘Sketches of Bermuda’

From Bryan Richards

According to the Muster List of HMS Cerberus, Richard Cotter was born Abt. 1776 Cloyne County Cork. I now discovered Richard and Ellen Young married twice, once in Bantry and again at what is now known as the Queen’s Chapel Savoy…

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