Bowl Playing West Cork, Armagh and the Myth of Illegality

The author Flor Crowley, national Teacher, and Chairman 1965 An Bol-Chumann, native of Dunmanway author of Local History Articles and Books..

Words in Irish from Dunmanway, West Cork from Flor Crowley N.T. (National Teacher), Behigullane, Dunmanway. .

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From Kevin Whelan on Catholic Middlemen.

Catholic Middlemen on the Kenmare and Lansdowne Estates 1755 and 1775, Pride..Sloth..Drunkiness..Every one thinks himself too great for any industry except taking farms.  When they happen to get them, they screw enormous rents from some beggarly dairyman and spend their whole time in the alehouse to the next village.  If they have sons, they are to be bred to be priests, physicians or French officers; if daughters, they are bred to be no kind of industry but become encumbrances on their parents and the public an this sloth and beggary are transmitted from generation to generation. …1775..  Sauntering around the roads dong nothing, and their sons and daughters going to a dancing school at three shillings a quarter when they might be spinning or carding, digging or ploughing or sowing.

Kevin quotes this in an article about Catholic Middlemen.  It is the Records of the Kenmare estate online from the Irish Manuscript commission.

Middle men Bantry area 1740s of Kenmare (Brown) Estate: Michael Murphy Newtown, Casey Miller, Newtown, Thomas Hutchins, Ballylickey, Various Galweys, Gilbert and Richard Mellefont Donemark, Beversham Harman Laheran, Henry Puxley Gortaneer, John Young Direenkallig Robert Young Droominateenly, Isaac and Joshua Doe, Forester

Richard Hedges of Macroom, Co. Cork, 8th June 1714, Irate letter, ‘All Mountains, Bogs, and Rocks, Entirely Inhabited by Irish from Dunmanway to Kanturk, which is 40 miles of Barbarous Country, there is not an English Gentleman of note there except William Brown, Minister at Macroom, some Heads of Irish Clans not only carry Arms and Harbour Unregistered Non-Jurist Popish priests but have gained Ascendant over Civil power there being but few Protestants and they are Overawed by the Multitude of Papists.

The Hedges and Davies of Macroom  were active with the Whites, Fenwicks and Blairs of Dunmanway later Bantry (some of whom had been students at the Inns of Court in London) in acquiring vast tracts of land at knockdown prices from the Hollow Blade Company.  Not involved with them but active in the purchase was Francis Bernard of Bandon, this formed the base of the Bandon estate.

Macroom Castle of the Descendants was burned in 1922.

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/property-show.jsp?id=3036&estate_id=1093

Manuscript MS 757, National Archives, from Kevin Whelan’s article on Catholic Middlemen.

The analogy of the Pucán, use of Gaelic Poetry and Genealogies to Buttress Hopeless Cause of Restoring Lost Estates of Irish Catholic Gentry 18th century.

From Kevin Whelan’s article on Catholic Middlemen.

Incorporated Law Society of Ireland, CONSTITUTION and SESSIONAL STANDING ORDERS of the SOLICITORS’ APPRENTICES DEBATING SOCIETY OF IRELAND, 1962-4

At that time the Law Society operated out of a few rooms of the Fur courts.   Due to the foresight of Reginald Prentice the former Blue Coat School was acquired and restored against trenchant opposition.

1773 – Blue Coat School, Blackhall Place, Dublin

The Irish have a great love of disputation, standing committees and constitutions. This  was drafted in 1962 by a gifted group of Young Lawyers and formed the basis of the still current Solicitors Apprentices Debating Society (SADSI).

Among the group mentioned in  1962-4, were Larry Farrell, Later Chief State Solicitor, Thomas C. Smyth later transferred to Bar and became a High Court Judge, Michael O’Mahony, formerly Senior Partner, McCann Fitzgerald, President of Law Society, Returning Officer Dáil Elections, related to Michael Collins brother of former TD Nora Owen, MEP Mary Banotti.  Interestingly only two women are included now they form a majority of qualifying lawyers in Ireland.

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