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  • Letter from Lord Carbery, 1826 re Destitution and Emigration in West Cork and Eddy Letters, Tradesmen going to the USA and Labourers to New Brunswick
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  • Statement of Ted (Ríoch) O’Sullivan (1899-1971), Barytes Miner at Derriganocht, Lough Bofinne with Ned Cotter, later Fianna Fáil T.D. Later Fianna Fáil TD and Senator, Gortycloona, Bantry, Co. Cork, to Bureau of Military History, Alleged Torture by Hammer and Rifle at Castletownbere by Free State Forces, Denied by William T Cosgrave who Alleged ‘He Tried to Escape’.
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Monthly Archives: December 2014

Stamp Duty of 5 shillings and 6 pence, paid in London, 1826, on £450 Purchase of Commission for Honourable Simon White Esq., Bantry.

27 Saturday Dec 2014

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Stamp Duty of 5 shillings and 6 pence, paid in London, 1826, on £450 Purchase of Commission for Honourable Simon White Esq., Bantry.

The National Library has a manuscript,(MS G.O. 428) which is a photographic reproduction of micro films lent by Paddy O’Keeffe, Bantry Historian c late 1950s.

This is an extract of the Account Books kept by the Rev. Somers Payne, Land Agent to Lord Bantry. The Rev Somers did not practise as a clergyman and his family hailed from Danesford, Innishannon later Upton Industrial School. It was common enough for young men of a Landed background to got to Trinity College, take Holy Orders and then do something like Land Management or Literature.

On set of the accounts in minute details notes rents, by tenant, amount townland. It is a useful guide of who lived in various townlands in the period around 1826 together with Bnatry town. Apart from cottiers there are them more comfortable farmers and the Middlemen. In the Beara area it is clear that the greater O’Sullivan family retained de facto control of much of their land. The rents are significant but well below market rents allowing a significant lifestyle from rents received from under tenants who were probably in many case rack rented. Paddy O’Keeffe had a particular interest in the various O’Sullivan Septs in the Greater Bantry area and his papers at the Cork Archives are replete with references adn genealogies of same.

On the other side of the ledges is the expenditure side and included here is an item 1826 of stamp duty paid on the British Army Commission for Simon White of £450. To get some idea of the value of this amount in the late 19th century the basic annual pay of an RIC man was £34 with allowances and housing.

In the 18th century the British Army and Navy were favoured career choices for Irish young men of the Church of Ireland. Later in the century this included well to do Irish Presbyterians and Catholics. As the 19th century progressed there was an almost limitless demand for Doctors, Lawyers an Administrators for the developing Empire and the same class provided the recruits understandable given the lack of career choices in a stagnant economy.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11urZxIDy4fdnr2ih_r8mtr4i1zI5dqmLgz6ipOIRhCM/edit#gid=0

Supervlu Musgraves of Cork, Warners of Bantry, Attridges of Ballydehob and Edward Barnazzian (Hadji Bey)

27 Saturday Dec 2014

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Supervlu Musgraves of Cork, Warners of Bantry, Atridges of Ballydehob and Hadji Bey

The historian Turtle Bunbury has a piece on the Cork Musgraves and their Roscommon origins. The family of Stuart Musgrave descend on the female line from the Warners of Bantry and Attridges of Ballydehob.

The Cork Musgraves are a remarkable family developing from a small shop on the North Main Street to the present enterprise. Jack Musgrave in the early and mid 20th century guided the company from its premises at the Coal Quay. They were involved in sugar rationing and distribution for the Cork area during the War.

The family was Methodist which may account for the Warner and Attridge connection both West Cork Methodist families. Up to the late 1960s Cork business, education, medicine and other professional services was organized along religious lines. It was not possible to enter the management ranks in Musgraves unless you were family or a Protestant. They were no different then comparable firms, Michael Smurfit refers to the phenomena in Dublin until the mid 1960s in his recent biography.

Being Methodist the family kept one of their businesses the Metropole Hotel on McCurtin Street ‘dry’ until around 1970, it was also said that the hotel refused bookings for any sports which played on the Sabbath. Interestingly the Turkish Delight shop Hadji Beys founded by Edward Barnazzian formerly a Law Student at Constantinople University and fled to Cork in 1902 was within the curtilage of the hotel block.Edward Barnazzian was not in fact Turkish but one of the unfortunate Armenians who were exterminated by the Turks. The 20th century’s first example of mass extermination.

http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_family/hist_family_musgrave.html

The Warners may have come to Bantry pre 1600 possibly in connection with the fishing industry. There is a probate c 1670 for a Warner in Kilcrohane. The were well established by the late 17th century middling to strong farmers with an element of Middle Men on the Bantry and Kenmare Estates. In Richard White’s rental notebook 1780s, the ancestor of the Earl of Bantry there is a reference to the family as being trustworthy, honest, hard working and who should be favoured on lease renewal. Later the family were saddle makers and in retail. Their Bantry business continued until around 1980. Their bread was a delicacy. Interestingly in the notorious case of the murder of Bird by Cadogan in Bantry 1900 his office where he was killed was over Warner’s shop on Barrack Street.

https://durrushistory.com/2014/10/11/partial-transcript-of-trial-of-tim-cadogan-for-murder-of-w-s-bird-bantry-west-cork-1900/

Family members went to Skibbereen where Mrs Musgrave originated.

The Bantry Warners are buried in large tombs in the old Bantry Garryvucha Graveyard.

Soe details of the families genealogy are contained here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JXnNO3pHH0wnY9pfGXnfuuoptaxW6PFIAw–hsPPgAE/edit#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LTWvIzA2OnZhTlF131mGucPtr_e-XX9NMUzTJdZcuaY/edit#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MxUD12bxA6pf1eAGbdVQARaDR0cuGZnZ7Z0uwNS6fD8/edit#gid=0

The Attridges are very numerous in the Skibbereen Durrus area with Church of Ireland, Methodist and Catholic families.

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Gortnagrough, Ballydehob, in School folklore Collection 1937 and Folk Museum and West Cork Methodism.

26 Friday Dec 2014

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Gortnagrough, Ballydehob, in School folklore Collection 1937 and Folk Museum and West Cork Methodism.

Gortnagrough:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Gortnagrough,+Co.+Cork/@51.5943296,-9.4603759,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4845a1cc4b46bbdd:0x3f23013d1fd67148

In Mary Driscoll story about her homeplace she says that a couple over 70 then in 1937 have stories in Irish and English, Mr and Mrs. Sam Kingston. They are probably the grand parents of Letia Camier who with her husband Tommy runs the Folk Museum in the same townland.

https://durrushistory.com/2014/10/31/gortnagrough-folk-museum/

https://durrushistory.com/2014/10/31/gortnagrough-folk-museum/

https://durrushistory.com/2014/01/22/james-h-swanton-j-p-c1815-1891-leading-methodist-and-businessman-gortnagrough-ballydehob-and-rineen-co-cork-and-wesley-college-2/

https://durrushistory.com/2014/02/23/beginning-of-methodism-in-west-cork-1779-john-bredin-swantons-gortnagrough-ballydehob-1783-john-hamilton-1898-henry-deery-membership-1799was-160-1810-at-320/

Durrus Folklore Project:

https://durrushistory.com/school-folklore-project-1937-9-durrus-schools/

http://digital.ucd.ie/view/ivrla:26612

Old priests Co. Cork, from early 18th Century

23 Tuesday Dec 2014

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Old priests Co. Cork, from early 18th Century.

The ‘Bible’ on the subject is Sister Evelyn Bolster’s 2 volume history of the Dioceses

http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/authors.php?auid=55867

Dioceses History:

http://www.corkandross.org/priestsHistorical.jsp

https://plus.google.com/photos/100968344231272482288/albums/6096040498184018337

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Glandore Stone Circle.

23 Tuesday Dec 2014

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Glandore Stone Circle.

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Bandon, Co. Cork, Yeomanry 1777-1779, with Bandon Boyle Infantry Medal.

23 Tuesday Dec 2014

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Bandon, Co. Cork, Yeomanry 1777-1779, with Bandon Boyle Infantry Medal.

Article by Cork Antiquarian Robert Day FSA

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Cork Grand Jury/Agents 1765.

22 Monday Dec 2014

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Cork Grand Jury/Agents 1765.

The Grand Jury was 23 in number and was dominated by the same Protestant families. It is sometimes forgotten that they and the Quakers and Huguenots created the modern Cork from the ruins of 1690 to the thriving port and trading centre of 1800. The entirety of the modern city centre was reclaimed much of it by these families in the 18th century with Dutch assistance.

The excerpt is from John T Collins Newspaper extracts.

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British Army Tender 1920/1, Rochestown Railway Station (blown up) Cork

22 Monday Dec 2014

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British Army Tender 1920/1, Rochestown Railway Station (blown up) Cork.

From Colm Creedon’s book on the line.

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Christmas Cribs

22 Monday Dec 2014

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In this part of Ireland putting up a nativity scene at Christmas time is as natural as breathing. Known as cribs, they appear everywhere at the beginning of December. Every Irish home has one, perhaps passed down through the generations, and they come out from the attic storage boxes along with the decorations to be displayed in a window or on a mantlepiece or hall table. Even for families that consider themselves non-religious, the crib is an essential part of getting a house ready for Christmas.

One for every budgetOne for every budget

Large cribs are erected in town squares and in churches. Sometimes the figures in a church crib will be inserted slowly, one a day, in little ceremonies involving children. Traditionally, the baby Jesus, was not placed in the manger until Christmas Eve. Live cribs, where the nativity figures and animals are alive, are often mounted as fundraisers…

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At the fireplace in the Anchor Hotel Bantry, the Future Governor General Tim Healy (1855-1931) with friends asked as a parting gift that ‘something be done about the path from Adrigole to Lauragh’ now the Healy pass and Bill O’Donnell’s Memoir ‘The Shortest Way Home’

21 Sunday Dec 2014

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At the fireplace in the Anchor Hotel Bantry, the Future Governor General Tim Healy (1855-1931) with friends asked as a parting gift that ‘something be done about the path from Adrigole to Lauragh’ now the Healy pass and Bill O’Donnell’s Memoir ‘The Shortest Way Home’

The Anchor Hotel used to belong to Bill O’Donnell, who a few months ago at the age of 86 brought out a memoir of his journey around the world in the early 1950s. Inspire.ieproduction. He had earlier written a novel ‘The Small Kingdom’ and has a third book in his head.

His brother Brian owns the famous Pub in Cork the ‘Hi B’

https://durrushistory.com/2014/12/11/possible-connection-between-tim-healy-mp-kings-counsel-governor-general-and-john-hely-hutchinson-1724-94-lawyer-statesman-provost-trinity-college-dublin-son-viscount-donoughmore-if-you/
https://durrushistory.com/2012/10/25/tim-healy-governor-general-irish-free-state-census-return-1901/

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