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Returns of Co. Cork, Church of Ireland, Vestries, 1827

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In the 1820s the Church of Ireland was the State Church and was obliged to file statutory vestry returns. Those for 1827 have survived and have been digitalized by the University of Southampton as part of their project in relation to Parliamentary papers.

The Vestries performed a religious function in relation to the church but the parish was also an administrative unit. It was charged under statute for example to provide coffins for the poor and also for the maintenance of foundlings. The Church of Ireland in many areas also registered deaths for example the Macroom records which have survived ow burials from the early 18th century and by name the bulk of the dead are Catholic. In these records some of the Vestries had on the same day a separate vestry with Catholic parishioners in attendance to approve Tithe Allotments, matters relating to foundlings etc such as Innishanon April 1827, coffins for poor, also Kinsale April 1827.

Particular parishes such as St. Nicholas, Cork provided for a fire engine £20, pew opened £10 (found in a few parishes), foundlings £20 nurse fro same £4. St. Peters Cork, £36 beadles, teaching boys to sing also Youghal. fire engine. Holy Trinity Cork nurse for foundlings £25, engine keeper £21, repairs £3,500.

Fanlobbus (Dunmanway) £19 to make up losses from failure of Leslie Bank Cork on 1826 collection, a special vestry in September 1827 to provide parish overseers to enforce Sunday observance. Rincurran £2.2 for expenses of mourning the duke of York. Tullagh (Ross) a watchhouse in graveyard, Youghal parish children £60, Clonpriest, £5 to Michael Henesy as a mark of probation for his humane and effectacous attendance of the sick poor especially in cases of fever. Marmullane expenses £15 for Michael McCarthy schoolmaster and parish clerk

Co, Cork starts at p 120. The general pay for parish clerk is £10 per annum, there is provision for the maintenance of foundlings and the general run of church maintenance. Country church seems to have been whitewashed and there are frequent reference to whitewashing. The failure of Leslie’s Bank in Cork a mini Anglo Irish of its day caused the Vestry of Dunmanway (Fanlobbus) to make provision for loss. The names of the church wardens is given which is an interesting genealogical source.

http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/documents/10167/eppi_pages/224873

Laurence Sulivan 1713-1786, Cork Born, Kinsman of Benjamin Sullivan Crown Attorney for Cork City and Co. Cork Chairman of The East India Company and M.P.

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In a recent book, Guardian of the East India Company: The Life of Laurence Sulivan
By George K. McGilvary, the possible Cork origins of Laurence Sulivan are explored. Google Books provides an extract showing the various links.
http://books.google.ie/books?

In one of the books on Sullivan it is suggested that he was an illegitimate older brother to Benjamin Sullivan. It also suggests that his Christian name Laurence (Larry) is the English version of the Irish Leabhrás, a common name in the O’Sullivan Bere family.

Benjamin Sullivan (1720-76( was a State Attorney for Cork City and County in the early 18th century and he was described as a ‘Kinsman’ to them. His father was Philip and his mother was an Irwin described as a Presbyterian, he was born in the Parish of St. . Two of Benjamin’s sons went to India, his influence did them no harm (is fearr focal sa Chúirt ná punt sa sporrán!) did well and later became MPs in England.

Looking at deeds in which the Cork Sullivans were involved as attorneys on the Registry Of Deeds Project:

http://irishdeedsindex.net/deeds_index/name_index.php

quite a number eminate from the Mizen area.  In 1700 Bishop Dives Downes on his tour refers to landowners in Schull including Mr. Sullivan, a Protestant.

1720-1767 Benjamin Sullivan Attorney, Barrister, 1752 Clerk of the Crown for Counties Cork and Waterford. Thomas Harrison writing clerk to him 1742, Married Bridget Limerick daughter of Dr. Limerick, Rector Kilmoe (Ballydehob), 1742 Father Philip mother Elizabeth Irwin a Presbyterian, Parish of St Paul. Benjamin Sullivan Senior Esq., eminent Attorney died London 1767, May have been Recorder of Cork 1765. son Sir Benjamin Sullivan, Kt, Judge Supreme Court Madras, the Right Hon John Sullivan of Richings Park, Co. Bucks, Privy Councillor, MP Old Sarum, Sir Richard Joseph Sullivan Captain RN and MP for Seaford Baronet UK 1804. Protest against him being appointed Freeman as he allegedly did not serve 7 years as an apprentice, 1742, Memorial 77771. May be related to Laurence Sullivan speculation the Laurence was an illegitimate elder brother and so Lawrence may be variation of Lábhrás a name common among the O’Sullivan Beres, Chairman of East India Company. Parliamentary biography gives his address as Dromeragh. (Dromreagh Durrus?) http://corkgen.org/publicgenealogy/cork/potpourri/corkancestors.com/Deathsmarriages2.htm Oldest son Benamin, 2nd son John,Memorial 1764, 161080, Thomas Lyd Councellor mentioned with John Lloyd Victualler, Cork

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqhnQGE3ANjzdEkxdVM0YVNzbzFHbV8tRGxNM2pmMWc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

id=x8St6IV3aOIC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=laurence+sulivan+east+india+company&source=bl&ots=g3UStkvm_s&sig=ROeZVLd3_LUWnN6o6oYdIRhRsPk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z86wUqzINpSg7Abe1YGgAw&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=laurence%20sulivan%20east%20india%20company&f=false

For a brief outline of his Parliamentary career:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Sulivan

Sullivan Lawyers Cork:

1708, 1709, 1715, 1728, 1783? same? John Sullivan 1709 Registrar. Attorney/Registrar, 1763 Comissioner. 1771 listed as Clerk of the Crown with Benjamin Sullivan for Co. Cork and Waterford.1771 Coroner Cork City. Ancient Freeman. 1710 Thomas Banfield a clerk later atorney. 1709 Named in Council minutes, in some deeds a John Sullivan Junior 1709 Commissioner for Affadavits, Memorial 1719 23650 Executor in will 1729 of Charles Newman Irish Manuscrit Commission 4
1756 John Sullivan Clerk to Benjamin Sullivan, Coroner 1767 May be John Sullivan Junior Attorney. Cork election Hely Hutchinson papers 1783, attorney Christ Church Lane. 1767 that £12 19s. 3d. be paid John Sullivan, gent., one of the Coroners, expense in feeing lawyers and prosecuting Robt. Murray for the murcdler J of Capt. Rea; http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/history/caulfield_complete.pdf
1799 John Sullivan Master In Chancery Memorial 500 Other names John Austen, Thomas Austen, witnesses, John Bayly

1720-1751, 1746, 1749, 1767, dead 1767 Benjamin Sullivan, self styled O’Sullivan Mór, according to Denny Lane Attorney, Barrister, Notary Public, 752 Clerk of the Crown (State Solicitor) for Counties Cork and Waterford. Thomas Harrison writing clerk to him 1742, Married Bridget Limerick daughter of Dr. Limerick, Rector Kilmoe (Ballydehob), 1742. 1771 listed as Clerk of the Crown with John Sullivan for Co. Cork and Waterford. By an order of 26 April, 1749, Benj. Sullivan, Attorney ; Mr. Will. Snow, Attorney and Mr. Thos. Allyn, Attorney, be admitted free. I, Hugh Millerd, Jun., do protest to the makeing of Mr. Benj. Sullivan,
Mr. Wm. Snow, and Mr. Tho. Allcyn free as they diu not serve seven years’apprentiship, nor a sufficient Council at the time, the questions being put,only the unucrnameu: Mr. Mayor, two Sheriffs, Recorder; Alden. Atkins,Farren, Hulcatt, Owgan, W estrop, Wintrop, Travers.		 Father Philip mother Elizabeth Irwin a Presbeterian, Parish of St Paul. Benjamin Sullivan Senior Esq., eminent Atttorney died London 1767, May have been Recorder of Cork 1765. son Sir Benjamin Sullivan, Kt, Judge Supreme Court Madras, the Right Hon John Sullivan of Richings Park, Co. Bucks, Privy Councillor, MP Old Sarum, Sir Richard Joseph Sullivan Captain RN and MP for Seaford Baronet UK 1804. Forbes, Gordon, Captain, 34th Regt, to Miss Peggy Sullivan, dau Benjamin, Esq., late of this City, at Christ Church – (HC 17/9/1770). 1746 WD WM SULLIVAN Denis of Shanagh, KER Farmer
E WD DUGAN Mallaky of Clarogh, COR Dairyman
F WM SULLIVAN Benjamin of Cork City Gent. Maziere Brady recounts Bishop Dive Downes tour of Schull/KIlmoe 1700 he notes land owners Limrick Mr. O’Sullivan, a Protestant.
p.172 http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/history/batch2/bradyvol1/#/244/zoome		 Protest against him being appointed Freeman as he allegedly did not serve 7 years as an apprentice, 1742, Memorial 77771. May be related to Laurence Sullivan speculation the Laurence was an illegetimate elder brother, d so Lawrence may be variation of Lábhrás a name common among tthe O’Sullivan Beres, Chairman of East India Company. Parlimentary biography gives his address as Dromeragh. (Dromreagh Durrus?). SULLIVAN, BENJAMIN – (5/11/1770) – To be let from the 25th of March next, several lots of ground in Fair-lane and Peacock lane in the North suburbs of this city. Proposals will be received for Benjamin Sullivan, Esq; by Mrs. Sullivan on the Mall. http://www2.ul.ie/pdf/943693677.pdf. 14 July 1747 Affidavit of serving order to pay the money levied
on the execution to the defendant John Armstrong sworn by Cornelius Sullivan in front of Benjamin
Sullivan.

6 June, 1767. That William Jones, gent., having served Anthony Lane, Esq. ; Benjamin
Sullivan, Esq., eldest son of Benjamin S., Esq., dec.; Be admitted freemen

 http://corkgen.org/publicgenealogy/cork/potpourri/corkancestors.com/Deathsmarriages2.htm Forbes, Gordon, Captain, 34th Regt, to Miss Peggy Sullivan, dau Benjamin, Esq., late of this City, at Christ Church – (HC 17/9/1770). MARTIN, DANIEL, Wines & Porter, lived in Mallow Lane, now removed to the house wherein Ben. Sullivan Esq. Formerly lived at the corner of the Fishambles near the Exchange, (CJ 4/10/1756) ; 1767 Richard Martin, gent., having served Benj. Sullivan, Esq., and Mr. Wm. Snowe;
admitted freemen at large. Present–Mr. Mayor, Sher. French		 Oldest son Benjamin, 2nd son John,Memorial 1764, 161080, Thomas Lloyd Councellor mentioned with John Lloyd Victualler, deed of 1750 mentioned wit George Dunscomb and Nicholas Weekes, Councillor Cork 145. 7 July 1767 Deed of assignment of judgement against Francis
Strange by Bridget and Benjamin Sullivan, Cork, (executors of will of Benjamin
Sullivan St. James Square, London), to Adam Newman, Cork, for £116-19s-2d.
Witnessed by Margaret Sullivan and Elizabeth Sullivan.
1735-, 1783 Sir Benjamin Sullivan Barrister 1770, Puisne Judge Supreme Court, Madras Eldest son of Benjamin, Clerk of the Crown for Co Cork , Recorder of Cork, Ó Sullivan Mór, Bridget Limrick Goleen.Cork election Hely Hutchinson papers 1783, listed as East Indies, item 626 Admission Middle Temple Register 1in 1764, 1661-1781, Vol 1, Linen Hall Library Belfast, 1735. Dublin Almanac 1798. As Benjamin Junior. Subscriber of 1766 ‘The History of the Irish Rebellon’, Cork, 1766 6 June, 1767. That William Jones, gent., having served Anthony Lane, Esq. ; Benjamin
Sullivan, Esq., eldest son of Benjamin S., Esq., dec.; Be admitted freemen

Burial Register, Macroom, Co. Cork, Church of Ireland with some Catholic names, 1727-1836

14 Saturday Dec 2013

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The register was transcribed by the Public Record Office in 1949 (p59-153) M5061, parts of the original are difficult to decipher. It may be the case that the graveyard was shared with Catholics as there are a lot of ‘Catholic’ names far more than are usually found in 18th century Church of Ireland records.
The burials will have many Catholics. It is possible that not all are buried in the C of I graveyard as it appears very small. There are however many beautiful Catholic headstones in the grounds. The C of I had ownership of all old church sites and burial fees were an income. In some cases they did not follow up on the old churches/graveyards in a parish but in others they did. All Catholics and most non conformists in Dublin are buried in C of I burial grounds up to the early 1800’s and the 1st Catholic graveyard in Dublin was only in the 1820’s. As such C of I burial records are a great source for early Catholic death,
The Christian names are slightly different than those typically found 100 years later. The records suggest widespread childhood fatal illnesses with several members of the same family dying within a short period presumably children. In the original some of the entries have a symbol ‘+’ against the date, the reason is not apparent.

https://plus.google.com/photos/100968344231272482288/albums/5957242447606366081

Full original register:

https://plus.google.com/photos/100968344231272482288/albums/5938399680968746881

James Hutchinson Swanton J.P., 1815-1891, Grandmother, Margaret O’Sullivan, Ballagahadown, Caheragh, Leading Methodist and Businessman, Gortnagrough, Ballydehob and Rineen Co. Cork and Wesley College.

12 Thursday Dec 2013

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Gortnagrough:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Gortnagrough,+Co.+Cork/@51.5943296,-9.4603759,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4845a1cc4b46bbdd:0x3f23013d1fd67148

 

 

James Hutchinson Swanton, 1815 – 1891, son of William Swanton, Ballydehob and Hanna Hutchinson, Clonee, Durrus.  Her father, Hugh Hutchinson, landlord and Margaret O’Sullivan, Ballagahadown between Caheragh and Drimoleague. She is probably sister to Eugene O’Sullivan, Gent, middleman on a number of estates including Dunmanway Shouldham Estate.  He is a church warden, Drimoleague c 1790. The Hutchinson major property owners in Bantry since at least mid 17th century. Not to be confused with Bantry Hutchins family. Slowly lands including Blackrock House now Bantry House acquired by Richard White (Ancestor of Lord Bantry).  Estate sold Landed Estates Court 1850s.

 

Magistrate:

James Hutchinson Swanton, Rineen Skibbereen, resident, April 1857, £143. Report on 1850 dinner for Sir Robert Kane, President Queens College. Prominent Methodist. From 1875 Carrisbrook House, Pembroke Ballsbridge.  Businessman, miller. landowner, sitting Skibbereen 1861,

House at Rineen, in the 1901 census the house was occupied by Fr James Kearney and was categorised as a ‘First Class’ with 20 rooms and 16 windows in the front of the house. It was also occupied by a house-keeper, parlour maid and coachman.

Built around 1850 by James Hutchinson Swanton who was a Justice of the Peace, a man of considerable substance in the area and a major partner in the adjacent mill (now disused).  Later he lived at Carrisbrook House, Ballsbridge, Dublin:

 

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From Adrian Healy’s postcard collection Mill at Rineen:

Rineen Mill

Lists of emigrants from Kinsale, Baltimore, Co, Cork to St. Johns New Brunswick, 1833.

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17th April 1833 Independence Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/independence1833.shtml
1st August 1833 Charity Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/charity1833.shtml
August 1833 William of St. John Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/william1833.shtml
22nd March 1834 Independence Kinsale
12th May 1834 Independence Berehaven and Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/independence1834.shtml
17th May 1834 Charity Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/charity1834.shtml
26th November 1834 Brig Thomas Hanford Baltimore http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/sjlists1834.shtml#th

Emigrant ships from West Cork to St. Johns, New Brunswick, 1832-1847

11 Wednesday Dec 2013

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New Brunswick:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/New+Brunswick,+Canada/@46.3365449,-66.4120166,5z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4ca3fdd032350ecd:0xe66dc95a026805cc

West Cork:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Drimoleague,+Co.+Cork/@51.6599352,-9.2612453,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x484507f75d3a9c35:0x0a00c7a99731bc80

In Daniel F. Johnsons book ‘Irish Emigration to New England through the Port of St. Johns’ partly viewable on Google Books he lists emigrant vessels, a partial list in included below. Many of the St.Johns records were lost in a fire at the Customs House there in 1870.

Mr. Johnson was told by Robert Fellows, Archivist to the Provincial Archives, New Brunswick that in 1977 he had located previously lost records and these formed the basis of part of Mr. Johnson’s book.

http://books.google.ie/books?id=rVu6d-G9yQQC&pg=PA99&lpg=PA99&dq=bantry+to+st+Johns+new+brunswick&source=bl&ots=suipVPSpvj&sig=6ACE0ngF4UUz_EuFbIeSm-Wa4zk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xH-oUtP_AaaR7AbatIGoBw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bantry%20to%20st%20Johns%20new%20brunswick&f=false

The Port of St. John was a gateway port to North America for Ireland, Scotland, England and also Germany. The 1830s and 1840s was a period of large scale emigration from all over Northern Europe. Many of the Irish soon left for New England. In a sample period 80,000 emigrants were received of whom 10,000 went to the USA and over 4,000 died in local hospitals or almshouses. The Irish average for going to the US and mortality was probably higher than that of other Northern European locations.

In Bantry William Dealy/Daly a businessman who owned a timber yard owned a Brig which made regular voyages from Bantry/Berehaven to St. Johns. He also had family in St.Johns. There was a mini Bantry diaspora there with members of the Kingston, Bird, Clarke, Pattison, Dukelow, and Dealy/Daly families settled since the 1820s. One of the side effects of the emigrant ships was to depress the price of timber as this was carried on the return voyages.

https://durrushistory.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=1922&action=edit

Ship Arrivals St Johns, New Brunswick
Date Vessel Port of Origin Link
1st July 1832 Independence Kinsale
17th April 1833 Independence Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/independence1833.shtml
1st August 1833 Charity Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/charity1833.shtml
August 1833 William of St. John Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/william1833.shtml
22nd March 1834 Independence Kinsale
12th May 1834 Independence Berehaven and Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/independence1834.shtml
17th May 1834 Charity Kinsale http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/charity1834.shtml
26th November 1834 Brig Thomas Hanford Baltimore http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/sjlists1834.shtml#th
16th May 1841 Dealy Brig Bantry http://www.dalyclan.org/Brig/brig.htm
15th September 1841 Dealy Brig Bantry
27th May 1842 Dealy Brig Bantry
27th May 1845 Triumph Berehaven
4th September 1845 Dealy Brig Bantry
11th May 1846 Brothers Bantry
12th May 1846 Dealy Brig Bantry
25th May 1846 George Ramsay Kinsale
16th June 1846 Pons Aelii Berehaven
2nd June 1846 Regina Baltimore
20th June 1846 Renewal Berehaven
17th October 1846 Berehaven
21st June 1846 Themis Bantry
21st June 1847 Themis Baltimore
31st May 1847 Governor Douglas Clarke
28th May 1847 Ocean Baltimore
3rd May 1847 Malvinia Baltimore
25th Maay 1847 Stirrat Kinsale
25th May 1847 Helen Ann Kinsale
20th August 1848 Levithian Baltimore
16th May 1848 Ocean Berehaven
19th July 1847 Helen Ann Kinsale
16th May 1849 Lord Sandon Kinsale

The ‘Ship’s List’ contains lists of shipping and related records during the period.
http://www.theshipslist.com/index.html

Re Besnard of Huguenot descent had a major sail factory in Douglas Cork but involved in emigrant transport from Nick Reddin Newspaper extracts:

November 23, 1891, The Daily Sun, Saint John, New Brunswick

The death occurred yesterday afternoon at his residence 179 Prince William St., St. John, of Peter BESNARD, an aged citizen. Mr. Besnard had been in failing health for some months. He was a native of Cork, Ireland where he was born nearly 90 years ago, being in the 89th year of his age at the time of his death. About 1825 Mr. Besnard came to this country in a vessel owned by his brother, who was at one time mayor of Cork. He was interested in emigration from Ireland to Canada and was at one time connected with an agency for the promotion of such emigration. He entered the employ of the late Hon. John ROBERTSON and was at one time one of Mr. Robertson’s right hand men in the lumber business. Mr. Besnard had not been in business for a number of years. He married Miss BREMNER, a daughter of one of the first St. John postmasters. A daughter residing in this city and a son Robt. S. BESNARD, a ship broker in Boston, survive him. Mrs. Besnard died about a year ago.