1836 Evidence of Father John Kelleher, Early Statistician, to Poor Laws (Ireland), Enquiry, Muintir Bháire There are in these parishes about 50 and at least that number of individuals who endeavour to make out a livelihood by buying eggs here and taking them to Cork where they are bought for the English market.  These individuals are generally young women of blameless morals and great industry the distance they have to travel barefooted with such a load as 300 eggs in a basket on their backs is to many no less than 50 miles.  Some will take so many as 350 of these eggs others not more than 200 they generally bring as heavy a load back from the city. And make ten or a dozen such journeys each year.  The time devoted to such a journey is generally a week, their profits are inconsiderable perhaps about £3 in the year.


The same strain of women was the backbone of Irish America insisting against the odds that their children got an eduction.

Father Kelleher’s evidence and career.

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Mizen Magic 6: Schull to Castlepoint


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The Mizen is the Peninsula we live on, and of course we think it’s the most beautiful part of West Cork, and of Ireland. In previous Mizen Magic posts I’ve been exploring different aspects and areas, such as the Northside, or Brow Head, or our excellent beaches. This time I’m concentrating on the stretch from Schull to Castlepoint. The map below shows the area, with the village of Schull, our starting point, on The top right. The photograph above was taken from the top of Sailor’s Hill.

A winter view of Long Island Sound – Coney Island, Long Island,  the Calves, Cape Clear and Sherkin, with the entrance to Croagh Bay in the foreground

It’s only a few kilometres, and it would take you about ten minutes to drive straight to Castlepoint from Schull. But where’s the fun in that? No- let’s start by driving (or walking if…

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1743.  Command from Custom House, Dublin re Hearth Tax Collection.


 

 

 

The Co. Antrim Rolls give an idea of the scale of the catastrophe inflicted on the Irish People in 1922.

Click to access hearth_rolls_of_county_antrim.pdf

 

1743.  Command from Custom House, Dublin re Hearth Tax Collection.

From Diary of Mayor Pembrock, Cork.

http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/history/Mayoral%20Book%20of%20Thomas%20Pembrock/files/assets/basic-html/page-445.html

As the vast bulk of heart tax records (which listed most households in the 18th century) were blown up in 1922 it is unusual to come across records.

 

Petty’s census 1659 for hearth tax Durrus

1788 Kinsale Heart Tax Returns with Exemptions. Loss of Window Tax Returns and Irish Tax Revenue 1818-8. Applications to Reopen Closed Hearths on Advice of Physicians for Those with Fever.

 

1737. Fragment Heart Tax Roll. Hearth Tax Rolls for Co. Antrim.

 

Petty’s census 1659 for hearth tax Durrus

 

 

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page0437, 1732 Heart Tax Order

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Died 12th April 1668. George Waters or Walters, Whiddy Island, Bantry, Transporter of West Cork Deportees for Cromwell and an agent for the transport of soldiers to the King of Spain.


Died 12th April 1668. George Waters or Walters, Whiddy Island, Bantry, Transporter of West Cork Deportees for Cromwell and an agent for the transport of soldiers to the King of Spain.

In his will he was possessed of 70 plough lands in Bantry and Bere and an agent for the transport of soldiers to the King of Spain.

Account of the Will, land claims and debts of George Walters, Whiddy Island, in the Beara Peninsula. Includes a copy of his Will made in 1668 at Backland, Devon. Geoffrey Shelswell-White, of Bantry House, put the information together from various sources including additions from Hutchins (or possibly Hutchinsons earlier owners of what is now Bantry House) Note Book

 

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Burials at Durrus East (Moulivard) Graveyard, West Cork.


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Burials at Durrus East (Moulivard) Graveyard, West Cork.

This graveyard is probably one of the most ancient in West Cork and still used on the odd occasion.  The ruined church may date from the 15th century and the walls are still in good condition with the exception of one which was buttressed by a Fás scheme i the 1980s.

In Durrus nowadays Catholics are buried in the graveyard attaching to the Church build in 1900s and members of the Church of Ireland and Methodists in St.James which dates from 1793.  That churchyard became so congested in the 1850s that lord bandon gave additional land for an extension.  The ground being rocks had to be lowered by quarrymen and soil obtained from the buffs near the pier about 500 metres away.   There are a number of Church of Ireland families buried in Moulivard, The Shannon family from Moulamill (Glanlough, lower…

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Samuel Vickery (1832-1912) Reminiscences to his Daughter Martha Ellen, Evansville, Indiana, USA, Childhood in Rooska, Parish of Durrus and Reendonegan, Bantry, West Cork, Family Fishery, Girls Hired to Spin Twine for Nets, Catching Sparrows in Thatch of House, Hens Fed Sour Milk and Potatoes, Punished at School at Four Mile Water (Clashadoo, Durrus) For Dipping Spider in Black Ink , Emigration 1850 to New Orleans Upriver to Indiana

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Samuel Vickery (1832-1912) Reminiscences to his Daughter Martha Ellen, Evansville, Indiana, USA, Childhood in Rooska, Parish…

1st Report From His Majesty’s Commission For Inquiring Into the Condition of The Poorer Classes in Ireland, From 1835, Begging, Impotence Through Old Age, Sick Poor, Able Bodies Out of work, Vagrancy, Evidence taken at Ballydehob, West Cork, from Rev. James Barry, Parish priest, Rev. John Barry, Curate, Rev. John Triphook, Protestant Minister, John Brooks, Farmer, £1 rent, Alexander English Churchwarden, James Levis, farmer, Rent £33, Cornelius Mahony, Labourer, Patrick Mahony, Farmer, £10, James Mahony, JOhn Murphy, Daniel Sullivan all labourers and Quarrymen, Thomas Swanton, James Swanton, Merchant, Sweetnam, Dispensary Surgeon, Richard Salter Farmer, Farmer Rent £14. Begging starts St. Patrick’s Day, Destitution of Bandon Weavers, Maimed Children, Absentee Landlords Take £6,000 a Year From Parish Subscribe £3 to Dispensary, Sick lie on Knotted Ferns.


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1st Report From His Majesty’s Commission For Inquiring Into the Condition of The Poorer Classes in Ireland

From 1835, Begging, Impotence Through Old Age, Sick Poor, Able Bodies Out of work, Vagrancy, Evidence taken at Ballydehob, West Cork, from Rev. James Barry, Parish Priest, Rev. John Barry, Curate, Rev. John Triphook, Protestant Minister, John Brooks, Farmer, £1 rent, Alexander English Churchwarden, James Levis, farmer, Rent £33, Cornelius Mahony, Labourer, Patrick Mahony, Farmer, £10, James Mahony, John Murphy, Daniel Sullivan all labourers and Quarrymen, Thomas Swanton, James Swanton, Merchant, Sweetnam, Dispensary Surgeon, Richard Salter Farmer, Farmer Rent £14. Begging starts St. Patrick’s Day, Destitution of Bandon Weavers, Maimed Children, Absentee Landlords Take £6,000 a Year From Parish Subscribe £3 to Dispensary, Sick lie on Knotted Ferns.

Begging:
Questionaire:

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/10931/page/246819
Pages 682-686.
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/10931/page/246690

Impotence Through Old Age p 266-267:

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/10931/page/246275

Sick Poor p 339-340:

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/10931/page/246347

Able Bodied out of Work p…

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1743, Genealogy of Rev. John Sullivan, Prebentry Ross, (Howes, Careys, Gardes, Coopers) of Sunville, Bandon?, 1875 Papers on Application of Rev. Leonard Leader Sullivan otherwise Leonard Leader, Honorary Chaplin of Volunteer Fortress in India, of Taking the Name Leader Instead of Sullivan.


1743, Genealogy of Rev. John Sullivan of Sunville, Bandon?, 1875 Papers on Application of Rev. Leonard Leonard Leader Sullivan otherwise Leonard Leader, Honorary Chaplin of Volunteer Fortress in India, of Taking the Name Leader Instead of Sullivan.

 

This application was not uncommon the background inheriting property on the maternal line subject to a genealogical condition.  A similar situation arose with McCarthy/Welply and further North Westmeath/Cavan in the Ancient Princes of The Kingdom of Breffni O’Reilly/Nugent.

 

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1744 Denis O’Cullane (variation of Collins) aged 24, Drimoleague, Pedigree to Ancient Family Properties in East Carbery.


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1744 Denis O’Cullane aged 24 Drimoleague claim to ancient properties in East Carbery, mother, Mary Dawly (Daly) from the Ulster Office reference National Library Manuscript LibraryGenealoica Manuscript No. 139.  Timothy O’Cullane noblese  depositions testifying  his descent.   It may have been done for the purpose of enrolling him later in a European Genealogy Office or to keep up an ancient claim to estates.  There was considerable expense in getting the deponents to Cork to sign in the present of a Notary Public, that would enable to document to be recognised internationally.

Interestingly the Yeomen referred to are generally substantial tenant farmers, Catholic and Protestant.  The Catholic Yeomen are often descended of the old Gaelic Gentry, they tend to marry within the group often travelling widely as the Tobins of Kilcrohane marrying the Fitzgeralds of Baltimore ancestors of JFK.

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To whom it may concern

We theunder named do hereby certify that Timothy O’Cullane now of Gurrane in  the parish of Dromaleauge (Drimoleague) Barony of West Carbery County of Cork and Kingdom of Ireland is by the common fame and estimation of the country undisputedly the true and only heir in a line of Descent of that branch of the family of O’Cullane formerly known and distinguished by the name of Kealiceligh he the Timothy being by the unquestionable authority of ancient people whose testimony we verily believe the lawful and only son of Denis who was the son and Heir of Daniel was the son and The Heir of Denis MacDermod O’Cullane otherwise called Kealkuciligh who we are credibly informed and verily believe from the publick report and acknowledgement of the neighborhood was the the ancient proprietor to and in possession of Ballyncoursey and many other lands in East Carbery and Elsewhere.

Signed  at the bottom by Rickard O’Donovan (after his name looks like ’P’),  John …(Jones?) feeble signature indistinct,  aged 88 years, Richard Townsend and Matt O’Hea

Next page an affidavit made before Jonas Stawell Esquire,  one of His Majesty’s Justices of the Peace for the County of Cork in the Kingdom of Ireland by Dennis Carty of Ballynascarty in said county Yeoman Samuel Forde of Croghane in said County Yeoman and Laurence Lyne (Pre 1810 John Crowley, Ballyourane, Caheragh married Norry Lyne probably from Barryroe, possibly the same line.  She may also link to O’Mahonys of Carrigmanus)

of Cloghnakilty of said County Yeoman

Sworn at 2nd May 1744 at Kilbrittain before me Jonas Stawell.   

D McCarthy

Samuel Ford

Law(rence) Lyne

I know the above deponents and take them to be honourable men, and men of veracity and therefore I believe that they have deposed above, given under my hand the day above

Jonas Stawell

I knew Denis O’Cullane late of Knockskeagh being a Tennant of my Father’s and I take up on me to certify ye he was reputed to be a Proprietor of ye Estate belonging to the ancient family of yr O’Cullanes commonly distinguished and known by you title of Kealiecligh.  I do likewise very well know Denis McCarthy and Samuel Ford two of ye Deponents of ye  above affidavit and I do certify they are men of of such veracity that I should acquiesce in their testimony of any thing that might be credible as I am persuaded which has been sworn in this stead is dated at Corke ye 9th day of May 1744

William Honner

On the Eleventh  day of May 1744 personally appeared  Denis McCarthy of Ballynascarty  in the County of Cork farmer aged about  55 years and Samuel Forde of Croghane (Crohane,The ancestral townland of Henry Ford, Detroit is  at Crohane, Ballinascarthy, Co. Cork.) in the Said County farmer aged about 52 years, who,  on each of whom voluntarily disposed on the Holy Evangelist of God, that they very well know take to Teige O’Cullane now of Gurrane in the parish of Dromaleague, Barony of West Carbery, County of Corke and Kingdom of Ireland aged about 24 years and that the said Teig is the eldest son and  heir of Denis O’Cullane late of Cruiskagh in the Parish of Killmeen Barony of said County aforesaid Gentleman deceased by Mary Dawly (Daly) otherwise O’Cullane his wife, and these appearers say it is the common report and they verily believe it to be true that the said Denis was the eldest son and heir of Daniel O’Cullane formerly of Ballimoney (Ballymoney) in the Barony of East Carbery and County aforesaid Gent., adn these appearers say that the last mentioned Denis O’Cullane was reputed to be the Eldest Son and heir , and that these appearers do verily believe the said last mentioned Denis to be the eldest son heir of Daniel McDermod O’Cullane deceased who as they believe was the ancient Proprietor of the Lands of Ballycoursey  aforementioned  held and enjoyed the said lands at Ballycoursey after the death of his father the said Daniel McDermod O’Cullane, and these appears further to say that for the reasons hereinbefore set forth, the said Teig O’Cullane in this attestation first mentioned is to the best of these appearances apprehension and judgement, and is allowed to be a lineal Descendant the true Lawful and only Surviving heir of the said Daniel McDermod O’Cullane otherwise Cealieclagh

Dennis McCarthy

Samuel Ford

Which I Attest Being Thereunto Certified

Anthony Lane,

Notary Publick

Kilmeen Townland, Parish Rossmore, Barony East Carbery, West Division:

The Ó Coileáin sept were lords of Uí Conail Gabra, that is the baronies of Connello in Co Limerick. Pressure from the Geraldines at the in the 13th century caused them to move to West Cork, near their kin, the O’ Donovans. The picture becomes complicated because the Ó Cuileáin sept of the Corca Laoidhe, according to MacLysaght (‘Irish Families’ series, 1980, 1982) already inhabited this area!

The picture becomes more complex still: according to Woulfe, a number of Ó Coileáin had earlier moved to West Cork in 1178.

In the 1659 ‘Census’ of William Petty, we find the following among the ‘Principal Irish Names’ of that document:

Co Limerick:

Small County, Cullane 10; Connologh barony, O Cullane & O Collane 35, O Colleane 6.

Co Cork:

Ibawne and Barrymore barony, O Cullane 12; Killbrittaine, Cullane & O Cullane 24; Barrymore, O Cullane 28.

Ballinacarriga Castle, 1585

This is a four storey, six level tower house with an east-facing doorway. On this face of the castle, a sheela-na-gig is positioned high above and to the right of the door between and to the right of the top two right-hand windows (there are three windows above each on this side). Inside at the 2nd storey level, carving in the window embrasure is of a female figure accompanied by five roses, thought to be of Catherine O’ Cullane, wife of Randall Hurley, and her five children. Also at this level are intricate and geometric designs. At the fourth storey level, carvings include The Instruments of the Passion of Christ, figures thought to be St John, St. Mary and St. Paul and the initials RM CC and the date 1585. These are thought to be the initials of Randal Muirhily (Hurley) and Catherine O’Cullane.

From a Census of Ireland 1659 with supplementary material from the Poll Money ordinances 1660-1661, Bandon

O Cullane (13)

Seán Ó Coileáin/John Collins, the Silver Tongue of Carbery, poet and schoolmaster was probably of the extended family.

Séan Ó Coileáin (1754-1817), Carbery Poet, ‘The Silver tongue of Munster’, born into an Ireland of Broken Abbeys, Roofless Churches, Battered castles, Burnt Houses, Deserted Villages united in common Poverty.

Séan Ó Coileáin (1754-1817), Carbery Poet, ‘The Silver tongue of Munster’, born into an Ireland of Broken Abbeys, Roofless Churches, Battered castles, Burnt Houses, Deserted Villages united in common Poverty. Attendance 1773 at Coimba, Portugal, College for Christian Refugees.

Honner

Type of deed Date of current deed 25 Jun 1724 Vol Page Memorial
Lease + Release Date of earlier deed 39 547 26937
No Role(s) in earlier deed(s) Role in current deed(s) Family name Forename Place Occ or title A
A P1 P1 HONNER Col John of Crohane, Co Cork
B P1 HONNER John (jun) of Gurranard, Co Cork son + heir of A
C P2 MOORE Col Emanuel of Maryburrow, Co Cork
D P3 MOORE Emanuel (Sir) of Dunmore, Co Cork bart
E P3 HUNGERFORD Richard of
F P2 HONNER William of second son of A
G mentioned HONNER Martha (ow MOORE) of daughter of C
H W CARTHY Charles (jun) of Clagagh, Inchadinmy Island, Co Cork farmer
I W HUNGERFORD Thomas of Cahermore, Co Cork
Abstract By deed dated 26 Apr 1721 between said A, and F memorial 20491 and in consideration of a marriage that had already taken place between B + G and a marriage portion of £200, land being conveyed to trustees. Sworn 9 Jul 1724
MS MS Date registered 14 Sep 1724 Date abstract added 20131227

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