A Good Sheltry Farm gone to Forestry, Upper Tedagh, Durrus/Bantry, Homeplace of Sullivan/O’Sullivan family (Hurrigs), some claim Descent from O’Sullivan Bere from 1777 marriage of Michael Sullivan with Mary Vickery and some property dealings of the family

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There is a very substantial number of buildings, at the old O’Sullivan (Hurrig) farm in Tedagh, Parish of Durrus.  ‘Big Jim’ of the family sold and left for East Cork c 1959.   The family who make ‘Tedagh Candles’ lived there until the 1970s after which time the house and building were abandoned.  Now they are falling prey to Japanese Knotweed and forestry.

The newer of these was last lived in late 1940s when the farm was purchased by Johonny Love or the older farmhouse in ruins at the back.   The bog at Aghagoheen/Clonee nearby is almost depleted but there is still plenty of bog oak exposed on high ground.

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A Good Sheltry Farm gone to Forestry, Upper Tedagh, Durrus/Bantry,Homeplace of Sullivan/O’Sullivan family (Hurrigs), some claim Descent from O’Sullivan Bere from 1777 marriage of Michael Sullivan with Mary Vickery and some property dealings of the family.

The last of the family to live there was ‘Big Jim’ who moved to Glenville, East Cork c 1957.   This branch of the O’Sullivans descend from the 1777 marriage of Michael Sullivan who was a Heart Tax Collector, and had an interest in various lots of land to Mary Vickery of Rooska.

Other O’Sullivans were in the late 18th and early 19th century Baronial Constables even though Catholic for the Baronies of bantry and Bre.  This was not a police position but involved the collection of cess a local tax for which they received a poundage of 4% as well as other local taxes.  They employed a whole paraphernalia of bailiffs and drivers (who seized cattle for no payment) Thus Michael Sullivan was probably connection with this extended family.

Large areas of land are going over to forestry in response to the economic challenges facing farmers.  It is ironic that this and many like it were carved out of inhospitable terrain over many generations.

There are an enormous number of descendant worldwide.  The family has been extensively researched and DNA testing is showing even more links.

http://members.pcug.org.au/~nickred/deeds/memorial_extract.cgi?my_memorial=395122&my_indexer=RonPrice

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Brendan Shanahan, Canadian Ice Hockey Champion, son of Donal Shanahan, Dromreagh, Durrus, West Cork.

01 Wednesday Apr 2015

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Brendan Shanahan, Canadian Ice Hockey Champion, son of Donal Shanahan, Dromreagh, Durrus, West Cork.

Donal appears as number 905 on the Carrigboy School Register in the book published re the 100th anniversary.

http://carrigboyns.ie/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Shanahan

The Descendants of Sir William Hull, 1600, Leamcon, Schull, West Cork, From Opulence to Penury.

31 Tuesday Mar 2015

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Lease of Three Ploughlands at Ballydevlin (Goleen), West Carbery, William Richard Hull, (Descendant of Sir William Hull), Gunpoint to Cornelius Driscoll (likely ancestors of Driscoll/O’Driscoll Middlemen). Alexander O’Driscoll named in numerous Swanton, Attridge, Clerke deeds as witness and his children as lives in Sub Leases from Becher and Other Head Landlords in District.

Losses of Sir William Hull Leamcon, Schull, West Cork, 1641 and his Fishery at Newfoundland, part of greater Fishery which suffered from Bank failure in Bilbao in Basque Country 1641, Cornish Mining links.

Hull Loses 1641:

Click to access b1947-033.pdf

Some Schull burials:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oaIpcG9x-C8FBr62aJXcDlQ-jd3_sVtRU-HlkW5OmGM/edit#gid=0

Mining at Lemcon Manor Wm.H

Insolvent Debtor Wm.H

Seizure of Captain Claes Campane, Dutch Pirate’s Cargo by Sir Sir William Hull, at Leamcon, Schull, West Cork, and his appeal for the King’s mercy, disposition of cargo of Pepper, Tobacco, Camphor, Cheney roots, Elephant’s teeth, Muscovy Hides, 1624 From Doctor Richard Caulfield’s Annals of the Corporation of Cork, and Customs Personnel, Baltimore.

One of the descendants of Sir William Hull of Leamcon, was a WILLIAM HENRY HULL. I don’t have a d.o.b. but he was of Leamcon. His parents were Richard Edward Hull 1785-1846 and Henrietta Becher. His sister Maria Henrietta Amelia Hull marr. James Hingston, and other sister Lucinda Jane Elizabeth Hull marr. John Richard Hedges Becher.

William Henry Hull marr. Lucinda Hingston 31 Jan 1852 in Magourney Co.Cork. They had at least three children – Richard Edward Hull c1855; Henrietta Anna Hull c1859 and Lucinda M. Hull c1862, all b. Schull.
I have read that WHH died in 1865 in Southampton, Hants, but have not managed to verify this. His wife is shown on English census for 1871, 1891 and 1901 as widow.
The reason I wanted to tell you about this fellow is because I found a couple of news articles about him which I thought you would be interested in…..see attached.
It seems that William Henry Hull went from an affluent landowner at Leamcon in 1861, to an insolvent debtor in 1864. I wonder what happened to him in between? I see that in 1864 he was living in Lucan. Did he go to gaol I wonder? If he died in 1865, what prompted them to go to England? They were in Worthing Sussex in 1871; Christchurch Hants in 1891 and Chelmsine Somerset in 1901. Maybe his widow and children were back in Ireland in 1881 as they are not on the English census that year. His wife Lucinda died in Exeter in 1907. His son Richard Edward Hull never married. He lived in Exminster, Devon on 1911 census, described as ‘an Irish landlord’. I did not trace a death in England for him.
It seems the mining boom in Ireland around that time made some people rich and some people poor.
Magistrates:

Edward Richard Hull, 1742, Lamcon, Schull

Richard Hull, 1665, High Sheriff, Co. Cork, 1678 Rosscarbery, m Frances Bennett, possibly Sir Richard Hull, Judge of Court of Common Pleas),

Richard Edward Hull, 1875, Lemcon Manor, Schull, Non-Resident. m Henrietta/Harriett Becher.  Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland  1837.   She died 1837, probate 1837 and 1897 to William T. Townsend, JP, Derry, Rosscarbery rep of husband. 1870 return 2,671 acres.

William Hull, 1699, Lemcon Manor, Schull, probably William whose will 1726, witnessed by Daniel Donovan, Gent., Dunmanus, Owen Lander, Seneschal Lemcon Manor.

William Hull Esq., 1766, Cahirmee, Buttevant

William Richard Hull, 1768. Lemcon, Schull, 1813 after he read the death sentence on Catherine Donovan he was attacked by at a fair by her friends.  (Hibernian Chronicle 4/2/1799), CORK, Committed to the county gaol by Rev. Rich. Townsend, TIMOTHY DRISCOLL, charged with administering unlawful oaths, and with conspiring to take away the lives of Richard and Wm. Hull, Esqrs.  Contemporary of Lionel Fleming in Ballydevlin until 1837.

William G. Hull, Lemcon Manor, Schull, listed 185.  Possible subscriber 1821 Dr Thomas Wood’s ‘Primitive Inhabitants of Ireland.  patron Masonic concert Skibbereen 1862, subscriber as ‘W.H.’, 1861 to Smith’s History of Cork.

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Loss of Angelita, Dunmanus Bay near Dunmanus Bay and appointment of James Hutchinson Swanton as Agent of LLoyds Of London, January 1862.

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Loss of Angelita, Dunmanus Bay near Dunmanus Bay and appointment of James Hutchinson Swanton as Agent of LLoyds Of London, January 1862.

From Skibbereen Eagle.

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