Evidence of Father Barry, Parish priest, East Schull, West Cork, 1844, Ballydehob Copper Mines, Most Miners from District, Some from England, Wages for labourers comfortable 1 shilling per day, piece work for the women sorting, as opposed to 8d per day on a farm if available and on Emigration (Pre-Famine) if Provision was made would be availed of from Friends letters Abroad there is no Tyranny, No Oppression from Landlords, No Taxes, One of Two Ships recently Freighted for emigration from Ballydehob, Interesting the Emigration question was asked relative to the Colonies. Within three years an enormous exodus would begin not to the Colonies but to the USA, Land of The Free.


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Evidence of Father Barry, Parish priest, East Schull, West Cork, 1844, Ballydehob Copper Mines, Most Miners from District, Some from England, Wages for labourers comfortable 1 shilling per day, piece work for the women sorting, as opposed to 8d per day on a farm if available and on Emigration (Pre-Famine) if Provision was made would be availed of from Friends letters Abroad there is no Tyranny, No Oppression from Landlords, No Taxes, One of Two Ships recently Freighted for emigration from Ballydehob, Interesting the Emigration question was asked relative to the Colonies. Within three years an enormous exodus would begin not to the Colonies but to the USA, Land of The Free.

Interesting the emigration question was asked relative to the colonies. Within three years an enormous exodus would begin not to the colonies but to the USA, Land of The Free.

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/11941/page/282501

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Memoir of Sam Bird, Bandon and Belding, Michigan, USA, from the 1870s his father’s fondness for a glass of grog at night, The old Irish Church, The King’s James Bible Translated from Irish, Shooting Snipe, Anti Home Rule Politics, the family decimated by TB, Methodist Preachers, writing with the Non de Plume Brian Boru


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Bandon:

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Belding, Michigan:

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This site has the Memoir of Sam Bird, Bandon from the 1870s his father’s fondness for a glass of grog at night, The old Irish Church, The King’s James Bible Translated from Irish, Shooting Snipe, Anti Home Rule Politics, the family decimated by TB, Methodist Preachers, writing with the Non de Plume Brian Boru

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Emigration of West Cork Protestant families, from Mizen and Muintervera Peninsulas, to Rochester New York, Wisconsin and Percy Township, Northumberland County, Ontario from early 19th Century.


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Effects of the Famine many of the same Surnames as in North America:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SjD7EiRBDPjnsK4c4B9xIu9HV2WPBOuY0jj5_Td7ogc/edit

The late 18th century and early 19th century was a boom period for Irish agriculture caused by the Napoleonic wars. After the end of the wars a deep depression descended made worse in areas such as West Cork by the collapse of the home weaving sector.  Emigration commenced in late 1820s of Protestant families and gathered pace in the later decades.  These families were small to middling tenant farmers with a sprinkling of labourers and carpenters, masons, blacksmiths, etc.  The area looked at is the triangle bounded by Skibbereen, Bantry, and Crookhaven.  Among the families (Catholic) from this area and period were those of the singer Bing Crosby.

At the time Rochester, New York was enjoying a boom due to the opening of the Erie Canal linking the Atlantic to the Great Lakes.  In politics…

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1856, Letting of Ahakista, West Cork, cottage with 60 Acres on Death of Doctor Daniel O’Donovan, MD.


 

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1856, Letting of Ahakista, West Cork,  cottage with 60 Acres on Death of Doctor Daniel O’Donovan, MD.  His brother Timothy JP lived at the Cove nearby (house sold in 1870s Cronin family used it to build farmhouse and yard) as did is brother Richard JP at Fort Lodge, this was occupied until late 1901 is no in ruins and for sale..

 

For O’Donovan family of Muintervara:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eq_IayaxdUyWZWbpDf6LWlLNg7o-3tNJiqPGYIALy80/edit

Cork Examiner:

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Snapshot of Finances of Bantry Estate, 1888, West Cork, requested by Lord Ardilaun (one of the Guinnesses related to Whites) showing rents of £11,600 for Bantry and £4,800 for Macroom, totalling £14,000 (present day €1.5 million), deficit of £2,035, with rent reductions for tenants of 25%.


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Snapshot of Finances of Bantry Estate, 1888, West Cork, requested by Lord Ardilaun (one of the Guinness Family married  to Whites) showing rents of £11,600 for Bantry and £4,800 for Macroom, totalling £14,000 (present day €1.5 million), deficit of £2,035, with rent reductions for tenants of 25%.

The Estate had heavy outlays in mortgages, Jointures (payments for female relatives), life insurance, tithes tax leaving very little for living expenses, a common feature of Irish Estates.

Some Financial details of 19th century Cork Magistrates:

Finance/Probate

To get some idea of comparative values, an RIC man in 1900 earnings allowing for uniform, accommodation and pension say €75 per annum, Garda say €30,000 net in 2016 a factor of 400 perhaps on the high side or Resident Magistrate €500 per annum District Justice €90,000 net of income tax, factor of 180.

Annual Estate Rent rolls estimate 1811, Bandon £30,000, Devonshire (Cork), John Smith-Barry, Lord Shannon…

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Maud Vickery (1896-1995) and Esther Mary Warner (1896-1968) Early Boarders 1911 At Wesley College, Dublin.


Maud Vickery (1896-1995) her parents ran the hotel.  Other members of the Vickery ‘clan’ also went to Wesley College, Percy Vickery (circa 1904-1909) and his brother George Vickery (a bit earlier). But not his sisters – Maud was a pioneer. In later life Maud was the family genealogist.  The Vickerys were in the Rooska area probably well before 1700 from looking at old family settlements, they were in the category of large tenant farmers on the White/Lord Bantry Estate.

She lost two of her brothers in WW1.

Esther Mary Warner (1896-1968), she lost two of her brothers in WW1.  The family ran a general merchant store.  Over the store Mr. Bird was a  Land Agent, Timothy Cadogan was convicted of his murder in 1900.   The Cork Musgrave family (Supervalu) is descended from the Warners on the female line.  There is a probate reference to a Warner in Kilcrohane in the early 17th century, perhaps they were involved in the early fishery.

The Vickery and Warner family were Methodist, at one time a small Methodist Church operated at the Warner house at Reendonegan. The were interrelated and also to some extent to the Sullivans/O’Sullivan Hurrig family of Tedagh.

 

 

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The First Girls To Enter Wesley College As Pupils In 1911

 

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