1818, Jails, Marshalseas, Bridewells, at Bandon, Bridgetown (Skibbereen), Clonakilty, Dunmanway, Rosscarbery, Co. Cork, under Jurisdiction of Recorders, Seneschals, Sheriffs, Sovereigns, Magistrates and Lord of Manor of Bridgetown.


1818, Jails, Marshalseas, Bridewells, at Bandon, Bridgetown (Skibbereen), Clonakilty, Dunmanway, Rosscarbery, Co. Cork,  under Jurisdiction of Recorders, Seneschals, Sheriffs, Sovereigns, Magistrates and Lord of Manor of Bridgetown.

 

From:

 

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/9208/page/206087

 

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Patent in Latin for Tolls and Fairs at Bridgetown (Skibbereen) held from King James 2nd of England, Markets Monday and Wednesday, Fairs 4th May, 2nd August, 12th October, 23rd December, Patent 1696 from King Charles 2nd of England Skibbereen, 2 Fairs, Markets Wednesday Saturday, together with Levies from Toll Board. Respectable Farmers had to Mix Sand and Gravel with Their Corn to Counterbalance Deduction for Beamage Evidence of Richard Becher, Justice of the Peace 1852. Stones and Inferior Butter Put into Firkins, 10 ton a week sold.


Patent in Latin for Tolls and Fairs at Bridgetown (Skibbereen) held from King James 2nd of England, Markets Monday and Wednesday, Fairs 4th May, 2nd August, 12th October, 23rd December, Patent 1696 from King Charles 2nd  of England Skibbereen, 2 Fairs, Markets Wednesday Saturday, together with Levies from Toll Board.  Respectable Farmers had to Mix Sand and Gravel with Their Corn to Counterbalance Deduction for Beamage Evidence of Richard Becher, Justice of the Peace 1852.  Stones and Inferior Butter Put into Firkins 10 ton a week sold.

Richard Becher, Ballydevane, Clonakilty, subscriber Dr. Daniel Donovan ‘History of Carbery, 1876.    Respectable Farmers had to Mix Sand and Gravel with Their Corn to Counterbalance Deduction for Beamage Evidence to Parliamentary Enquiry Skibbereen on markets and tolls of Richard Becher, Justice of the Peace 1852.

From 1852 Parliamentary Enquiry:

 

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/13389/page/162793

 

The Thomas Henry Manning referred to in evidence is likely ‘Marmion’

 

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Oppressive Nature:

 

Jeremiah Crowley Esq., possibly

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10x-KU_Witor3g7ZUB1tg3PiE0ewRnU45AVXfr-WJFsM/edit#

 

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c 1905, Listing of Residual Landlords by Townland in Bantry, Castletownbere, Clonakilty, Dunmanway, Schull, Skibbereen Districts.


c 1905, Listing of Residual Landlords by Townland in Bantry, Castletownbere, Clonakilty, Dunmanway, Schull, Skibbereen Districts.

At that stage many of the large estates had agreed to sell so they are not listed.

From the Appendix in Report on Congestion:

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/21222/page/592009

 

 

 

 

 

Ignatious O’Brien (Lord Chancellor of Ireland 1913-1918 being shown by the Drunken Sextans Wife of St. Michan’s Church Dublin Guillotined Head of One of The  Patriot Shears Brothers,  Cork  Barristers, Sons of Henry Shears, Banker and MP for Clonakilty, Hung by The British for Being United Irishmen. Their Nephew, Rev. Somers Payne (1785-1857), TCD, A Bundle of Contradictions, Grand Master of Orange Order, Co. Cork, Master Political Operator, Alleged he Enrolled his Labourers as Apprentices so They Would Have a Vote.  Agent to Lord Bantry, Pioneering Agriculturalist, Sympathy for Cottiers, Smallholders, his Son Augustus Agent to Bantry Estate, Died of Famine Fever, Bantry aged 26 in 1844, his Son Rev. Gethin Payne Died of Fever 1844 aged 26.


1801.  Will of Eliza Gethins, Probably Grandmother of Rev. Soners Payne, Political Operator, Head of Orange Order in Cork, Agent Bantry Estate, Uncle of John and Henry Shears, Barristers in the City of Cork, who perished on the scaffold for alleged ‘high treason’ at the opening of the ‘present century’.

Rev. Somers Payne, Pre 1815, Upton, Grand Master Orange Order, Co. Cork.  Voted for Hutchinson 1826 election. Bandon Brunswick Constitutional Club 1828, sitting Bantry and Bandon, 1835, Provost of Bandon. Agent to Lord Berehaven since 1820 son Augustus agent to Lord Bantry. 1828 Bandon Quarter Sessions. Parliamentary Commission sitting Bantry 1845 showed sympathy for labourers and cottiers.  The Rev. Somers Payne’s mother was sister of John and Henry Shears, Barristers in the City of Cork, who perished on the scaffold for alleged ‘high treason’ at the opening of the ‘present century’. 1835 Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland  1837.  Probably grandson mentioned in will of Eliza Gethin, Cork, 1801 property for him held in trust by Dr. Boyle Coughlan and Gilbert Henry Fleming, attorney, Dublin.   Land record, 1870, 653 acres.  

Other Payne Magistrates:

Augustine Warren Payne, 1840 Bantry, Home place Upton.  Attending 1840 Great Meeting Bantry re Poor Law. Managing Lord Bantry Estates with Patrick O’Sullivan, Millcove managing Beara Estate also managing Conner estates.  Gave extensive evidence 1841 election petition he was in Longfield Leader conservative interest.  Member Dalys Conservative Club Cork.

John Orpen Payne, 1876, Castletown, Berehaven, Resident, £175

John William/Warren Payne, New St. and Beech House, Bantry.  Attending as ’William J’ Famine Relief Meeting Dunmanway 1846.   Attending Railway meeting Drimoleague 1856.  Bantry Quarter Sessions, 1862, Cork Spring Assizes 1863, listed 1854.  James Gilhooly MP alleged he was sitting in Skibbereen Quarter  Sessions 1888 outside his district.

1844. Witnesses To Her Majesty’s Commissioners into The Law and Practice of Occupation of Land in Ireland At Bantry (Rev Christopher Freeman Curate, Richard White Esq. Landlord, Michael Murphy Miller Middleman Donemark, William Neale, Rev. Somers Payne, Land Agent, John O’Connell Esq., Rev. Thomas Barry Parish Priest, Samuel Hutchins Esq. Landlord, Alexander Donovan, Timothy Connor, Cornelius Connor, Cornelius Henry Donovan, Skibbereen James McCarthy, John Collins, Rev. John Fitzpatrick, Rev. John Wright (Creagh, Receiver for 38 years to Sir William Becher), Rev. James Barry, Daniel McCarthy (Malster Brewer), Henry Newman Esq. (Land Agent Secretary Agricultural Society) Caheragh, Michael Sullivan Labourer, Thomas John Hungerford (Rosebank, Skibbereen Land Agent 18 years), Thomas Townsend Esq. (Smithville, Skibbereen, Half-Pay Lieutenant Royal Navy Land Agent for 10 Years to his Aunt), William Hedges Eyre Becher Esq., Magistrate Landlord 17,000 acres from Skibbereen to Crookhaven , Charles McCarthy, John Hayes Rosscarbery 130 acres, Bandon (Maskelyne Alcock Esq., Roughgrove, Bandon, Magistrate 300 acres, Daniel Connor Esq., Manch Magistrate, Chairman Board f Guardians, Landlord, Agent, Rev. William Hunter Presbyterian Minister 30 acres and 70 as undertenant, Benjamin Hosford, Maryville, Inniskear, 350 acres, Thomas Joseph Biggs Esq., Garryhandkardmore, Kinlea, Gentleman Farmer, Model Farmer 650 acres, William Anthony Spiller Esq., Upland Bandon Secretary Agricultural Society, Kinsale (William Henry Herrick Esq., Shippool Innishannon Magistrate Landlord, Thomas Herrick Esq., Coolkirky 650 acres, William Richard Meade Esq. Landowner 400 acres, Member Agricultural Society Barrister, Michael Forrest Farmer Meadstown Liscleary 240 acres,, William Dent Springhill Farmer High Constable barony Kerrycurry, James Bogue, Lahera, Bandon in Ireland over 6 years native Scotland, 315 acres. Part of the University of Southampton project making Irish Parliamentary records available on line. The report may be read online and gives good picture of the pre famine period.

1837 Cork Election. Report on Fictions Votes Electorate 8,600, Appendix Lists many for Cork City, Liberties of Cork and Country Freemen Entitled to Vote, by Address, Occupation, Valuable in view of Total Lack of 1830s Census.

1837 Cork Election. Report on Fictions Votes Electorate 8,600, Appendix Lists many for Cork City, Liberties of Cork and Country Freemen Entitled to Vote, by Address, Occupation, Valuable in view of Total Lack of 1830s Census.

1828. Formation of Bandon Co. Cork Brunswick Constitutional Club, Orangemen Chiefly Cotton Weavers, Attack Catholics at the Meeting, and References to Ibane/Barryroe and Macroom Brunswick Clubs.

1837 County Record Grand Jury: Sir William W Beecher Bart., Ballygiblin, Robert McCarthy Esq., Carrignavar, George Bruce, Milltown Castle, William Harrington Junior, Crosshaven Cottage, Daniel O’Callaghan Cahirduggan, Benjamin Bousfield Creagh, Doneraile, Sampson French, Cosquinn, Henry Brazier Mitchell, Mitchelsfort, Henry Herrick, Farrenlough, Innishannon, Charles Connell, Cloverhill, Henry Cole Bowen, (Elizabeth Bowen family) Bowens Court, Francis Woodley, Deelish, Richard H Gumbleton, Curryglass, George Daunt, Newborough, St. Augustus Clerke, Overton (Bandon), Thomas Hungerford, Somers Payne, (Land Agent for Lord Bantry among others) Upton (up to recently the property of Rosminian Fathers), Thomas Somerville, Drishane (Skibbereen), Pierce Power Clonmult, Jonas Travers, Butlerstown, Achilles Daunt, Kinsale, Edward Supple, Kinsale, Thomas Knowley, Killeagh, Bartholomew Barry, Kilbolane House, Adderley Beamish, Kilcolman, Samuel P. Townsend, Palace Town, Richard Hill, Doneraile, John Molony, (Possibly Surveying family) Ballinaboy, William Cooke Collis Junior, Castle Cook, John O’Sullivan, Coumatringane (Beara), John Hawkes, Kilcrea, John Leader Junior, Keale, Edward Bedha Thornhill, Castle Kevin, John Nason Junior, Newtown, Simon Davis Crook, Oldtown, Philip Harding, Firgrove (Macroom), Henry Baldwin, Mount Pleasant (Bandon), George Cooper Stawell, (Old Kinsale Family) Old Court, William Barry, Charleville, Thomas Lloyd Williamson, Castleview, Arthur Gethin Creagh, Ballyellis, Richard Donovan, Lisheens (Either Skibbereen or Ballincollig), Joseph Coughlan, (Family originally from Carrigmanus Protestant from 1600 allied to Hulls and Boyle) Ballygarvan, Timothy O’Donovan, O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus, Benjamin Sweete, Grenville, Herbert Gillman, Bennett’s Grove, Cornelius O’Brien, Kilcur, Samuel Townsend, Whitehall (Skibbereen), Standish Harrison, Castle Harrison, John Allen, Glandore, Jonas Morris Townsend, Shepperton (Skibbereen).

 

 

 

 

Old Method of Storing Apples.


Old Method of Storing Apples.

Some of the older people in West Cork used to preserve apples as follows.

The apples would be placed in a pyramid and covered in a mixture of grass and earth from under the apple trees.  The mound was then covered with hessian cloth from sacks which had been soaked in pickle,  This kept the snails at bay.

The method was broadly similar to potato pits.

Present by Daniel Sullivan, Berehaven, West Cork, to Richard Boyle, The Great Earl of Cork, c 1636 of Harvey Apples, Bon Chretien and Bergamotte pears, Arbutus for his new garden at Stalbridge Park, Dorset and Irelands first horticultural export The Strawberry Tree’ (Arbutus unedo) from 1580s.

Inventory of plants grown by Gaelic Irish 1620 prepared by Philip O’Sullivan Bere, and early 19th century cultivation of grapes and pineapples by Timothy O’Donovan Magistrate of O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus, West Cork.

 

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1793. Pipers and Fiddlers for Tenant Gala on Kerry Estates of the Earl of Bandon 1793.


 

1793.  Pipers and Fiddlers for Tenant Gala on Kerry Estates of the Earl of Bandon 1793.

From Gibson’s History of Cork p 496:

 
 
This would have been a time of great war induced prosperity.
 
 
 

These grants were shortly after purchased by the first Earl of Cork, who may be justly styled the founder of the town. Through him, the Earls of Cork and Shannon, and the Duke of Devonshire, possess property in the town and neighbourhood. The Earl of Bandon is also a proprietor, but the principal part of his property is in Kerry and in the western part of the county. The Bernard family have always been esteemed good landlords and kind to their tenantry. The following extract from an original letter written by his agent to the Lord Bandon, of April 23rd, 1793, preserved among the papers of Wm. T. Crosbie, Esq., of Ardfert Abbey, county Kerry, will afford a good idea of what an ” Irish tenant gala ” was at the close of the last century :

” None who were not tenants did I invite, except those named by you, viz., Father Morgan Flaherty, Tim M’Carthy, Charles Casey, Doctor Leyne, and Father Nelan, son to Old John. These I asked as Catholics particularly attached to you. Had I gone further I must either Lave excited jealousy, or summoned half the country. We had a company of 22 in the parlour, of whom I will send you a list next post. In the breakfast-parlour there was another company of second rate, and the third rate dined in the tent pitched in the avenue near the abbey. In the parlour your claret was made free with, as Stephen tells me he opened 34 bottles. In the breakfast-parlour port wine and rum-punch were supplied in abundance, and abroad large libations of whiskey-punch. We had two quarter casks (above 80 gallons) of that beverage, made the day before, which was drawn off unsparingly for those abroad, and plenty of beer besides. Two patteraroes, borrowed from Jack Collis, and placed on the top of the abbey tower, announced our dinner, toasts, and our exultation. Pipers and fiddlers enlivened the intervals between the peals of the ordnance. The May-men and maids, with their hobby horse, danced most cheerfully, and were all entertained at dinner, and with drink in abundance. An ox was roasted whole at one end of the turf house, on a large ash beam, by way of a spit, and turned with a wheel well contrived by Tom O’Brien. It was cut up from thence, and divided as wanting. The name of its being roasted entire was more than if two oxen had been served piecemeal. Six sheep were also sacrificed on the occasion, and, in short, plenty and hospitality graced both your board and your sod ; and a fine serene evening favoured happily the glee and hilarity of the meeting. All was happiness, mirth, and good humour. God save great George our king was cheered within and abroad, accompanied with fiddles, pipes, &c., &c.”

The Bandonians would admit of no piping or fiddling like this. ” In this town,” says Dr. Smith, writing of Bandon, in 1749, ” there is not a Popish inhabitant, nor will the townsmen suffer one to dwell in it, nor a BANDON, CASTLE-BERNARD. 497 piper to play in the place, that being the music used formerly by the Irish in their wars.” The town, at this time, could raise 1,000 men fit for arms. The woollen manufacture, an Irish trade which William III. was petitioned to suppress, and which he faithfully promised to discourage, once flourished here. The trade has now altogether left our shores, while the manufacture of linen has departed to the north, and with it the growth of flax. There are two parish churches in this town Kilbrogan and Ballymodan. The latter contains a fine old monument, erected to Francis Bernard, Justice of the Court of Common Pleas, with this inscription : FRANCIS BERNARD, ESQUIRE, OBIIT JUNE 29ra, 1731, JE 68.

Place Names of Prince Edward County, Canada, Rossmore, Shannonville, Relict of 1820s Emigration from Durrus District, West Cork


Placenames of Prince Edward County, Canada, Rossmore, Shannonville, Relict of 1820s Emigration from Durrus District, West Cork

Following the Battle of Waterloo an economic downturn coincided with the collapse of the local textile industry in Co. Cork This was exacerbated by the Cork Banking collapses of Leslies, Roches adn other Banks.  This prompted widespread emigration of small to middling Church of Ireland adn Methodist farming families with a smattering of Catholics.  Also included were labourers adn artisans.

There was much emigration to Canada in the USA an entry tax applied at that time.

 

Shannonville, the Shannons are a prominent family in Rossmore/Brahalish, Ireland:

 

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Shannonville,+ON,+Canada/@44.1949151,-77.2361867,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89d62c8f95110531:0xc9696b88f6f23750!8m2!3d44.1948822!4d-77.2273636

 

Rossmore, Canada:

 

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Rossmore,+ON,+Canada/@44.1382761,-77.3950498,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89d63aa5c7104c05:0x4e09c4829f5046be!8m2!3d44.138277!4d-77.386295

 

Rossmore, Durrus:

 

https://www.google.ie/maps/@51.6144125,-9.5566069,17z

 

Nexus: Picton, Ontario and Muinterbhaire and Mizen Peninsulas, Williamson, Baker, Attridge, Dukelow, King, O’Sullivan and Hurley families

 

Cork Obituaries in New Brunswick Newspapers, 19th century

 

Mathanne Williamson is researching her family who probably originate in Rossmore Brahalish (Williamson/Baker) with some Mizen input

‘I noticed last years that some of the road signs were possible throwbacks to Durrus- Rossmore is a community, I was on Shannon Road etc’.

1861, MAC CARTHY, D. (Glas/Green in Irish), Hants, Mac Carthy, D.,Glencurrah (Skibbereen) MacCarthy Glas/Duna. As patrilineal descendants of the 4th Prince, but not the 5th Prince, the MacCarthys of Dunmanway, belonging to the MacCarthy Glas. Subscribers to Rev. Gibson History of Cork


1861, MAC CARTHY, D. (Glas/Green in Irish), Hants, Mac Carthy,     D.,Glencurrah (Skibbereen)   MacCarthy Glas/Duna.  As patrilineal descendants of the 4th Prince, but not the 5th Prince, the MacCarthys of Dunmanway, belonging to the MacCarthy Glas.  Subscribers to Rev. Gibson History of Cork

 

 

MAC CARTHY, D. (Glas), Hants, Mac Carthy, D., Glencurrah (Skibbereen)

From a Copy at the University of Southern California digitized by Google.

Click to access The%20history%20of%20the%20county%20and%20city%20of%20Cork%20Vol2%20(1861).pdf

 

MacCarthy Glas/Duna[edit]

As patrilineal descendants of the 4th Prince, but not the 5th Prince, the MacCarthys of Dunmanway, belonging to the MacCarthy Glas[9][10][11] and MacCarthy Duna[12][13] septs, are not technically MacCarthys Reagh. However, most historians and genealogists refer to all descendants of Donal Gott as MacCarthys Reagh, and it is the case that, should the “senior line”, descendants of the 5th Prince, fail, then the MacCarthys of Dunmanway would become the “new” Princes of Carbery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacCarthy_Reagh

 

 

 

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1829. Death of ‘The O’Driscoll’, Baltimore, West Cork.


1829.  Death of ‘The O’Driscoll’, Baltimore, West Cork.

The O’Driscolls along with the Coughlans, and the varied forms of Wholehan/Houlihan are probably descended from the original settlers to West Cork.

Kerry Evening Post, Basil O’Connell Newspaper Extracts, Dr. Casey.

 

Died, 24th November 1820, Baltimore, Carolina, USA, Dr. Mathew O’Driscoll. of Creagh and Baltimore USA, 64, son of the late ‘The’ O’Driscoll, Creagh brother of Michael O’Driscoll Esq., and Died on the 7th May 1823, at Baltimore House, West Cork, of a Decline induced by too Severe Studies of Medicine which he had completed with great Distinction at Edinburgh Denis O’Driscoll Esq. aged 21, only son of ‘The’ O’Driscoll., Esq., of Baltimore and death of youngest daughter of ‘The O’Driscoll’ July 1826 from The Southern Reporter.

 

Denis O’Driscoll, Dunbeacon, Harpist and WILLIAM HENRY O’DRISCOLL, Esq., of Stoke, near Plymouth. He was born on the 16th of June, 1803, and, though a fine specimen of the old Irish chieftain race, he is still unmarried. The senior line of the O’Driscolls is, therefore, likely to become extinct in the British Islands, and the genealogist of the next century will probably have to look for it in the United States of America: though, according to a wild tradition in the country, there are fishermen on Cape Clear and on other islands off the Coast of Carbery, who are lineally descended from the youngest son of Sir Finghin, or Florence, of 1602. The Rev. James O’Driscoll, P.P. of Kilmichael in the County of Cork, is said to be the great-grandson of Denis O’Driscoll of Dunbeacon Castle, who is remembered by tradition for his skill in performing on the Irish harp, who was the son of Florence O’Driscoll, called the Captain Cam, who was killed at the siege of Dunboy in 1602. Sed cum de his nihil certi scio, nihil etiam assertive determino.WILLIAM HENRY O’DRISCOLL, Esq., of Stoke, near Plymouth. He was born on the 16th of June, 1803, and, though a fine specimen of the old Irish chieftain race, he is still unmarried. The senior line of the O’Driscolls is, therefore, likely to become extinct in the British Islands, and the genealogist of the next century will probably have to look for it in the United States of America: though, according to a wild tradition in the country, there are fishermen on Cape Clear and on other islands off the Coast of Carbery, who are lineally descended from the youngest son of Sir Finghin, or Florence, of 1602. The Rev. James O’Driscoll, P.P. of Kilmichael in the County of Cork, is said to be the great-grandson of Denis O’Driscoll of Dunbeacon Castle, who is remembered by tradition for his skill in performing on the Irish harp, who was the son of Florence O’Driscoll, called the Captain Cam, who was killed at the siege of Dunboy in 1602. Sed cum de his nihil certi scio, nihil etiam assertive determino.

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Denis O’Driscoll, Dunbeacon, Harpist and WILLIAM HENRY O’DRISCOLL, Esq., of Stoke, near Plymouth. He was born on the 16th of June, 1803, and, though a fine specimen of the old Irish chieftain race, he is still unmarried. The senior line of the O’Driscolls is, therefore, likely to become extinct in the British Islands, and the genealogist of the next century will probably have to look for it in the United States of America: though, according to a wild tradition in the country, there are fishermen on Cape Clear and on other islands off the Coast of Carbery, who are lineally descended from the youngest son of Sir Finghin, (Finin) or Florence, of 1602. The Rev. James O’Driscoll, P.P. of Kilmichael in the County of Cork, is said to be the great-grandson of Denis O’Driscoll of Dunbeacon Castle, who is remembered by tradition for his skill in performing on the Irish harp, who was the son of Florence O’Driscoll, called the Captain Cam, who was killed at the siege of Dunboy in 1602. Sed cum de his nihil certi scio, nihil etiam assertive determino.


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WILLIAM HENRY O’DRISCOLL, Esq., of Stoke, near Plymouth. He was born on the 16th of June, 1803, and, though a fine specimen of the old Irish chieftain race, he is still unmarried. The senior line of the O’Driscolls is, therefore, likely to become extinct in the British Islands, and the genealogist of the next century will probably have to look for it in the United States of America: though, according to a wild tradition in the country, there are fishermen on Cape Clear and on other islands off the Coast of Carbery, who are lineally descended from the youngest son of Sir Finghin, or Florence, of 1602. The Rev. James O’Driscoll, P.P. of Kilmichael in the County of Cork, is said to be the great-grandson of Denis O’Driscoll of Dunbeacon Castle, who is remembered by tradition for his skill in performing on the Irish harp, who was the son of…

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