Outrages Co. Cork, 1833
29 Tuesday Sep 2015
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29 Tuesday Sep 2015
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29 Tuesday Sep 2015
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Father/Reverend Daniel McCarthy (1758-1828), ’An tAthair Tadgh Na Muclagh’, Formerly Parish Priest Durrus, West Cork 1790, Marriage to Sarah Blair, of Blair’s Cove, Durrus, and His Petitions to Dublin Castle, Genealogies.
Rev/Father Daniel McCarthy:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BnjAwZ6eFk_0sTMsjxYBo3YFQLNqJ4J2utWIftpJXqs/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BnjAwZ6eFk_0sTMsjxYBo3YFQLNqJ4J2utWIftpJXqs/edit

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He was a descendant of the marriage of Michael O’Sullivan, Bantry, (Heart Tax Collector and land Owner and reputed descendant of O’Sullivan Bere) and Mary Vickery, Whiddy Island.
From Ron Price a descendant of the extended family:
Between 1981 and 1990 I made notes immediately after speaking to various Co Cork people about my Cork ancestry. I now wish to make those notes available to anyone interested. Any clarification comments added at this stage are in square brackets. I would welcome any questions or comments.
Source: Thomas (Tommy) Bryan (b 1930) of Ballybrack, Glenville, Co Cork
Notes from conversation on 8 May 1989
– Definitely heard that William Dukelow was relatively prosperous. As well as his 5 sons who worked on the farm he had 2 hired men working from first thing in the morning. Mrs Roberts views, which are slightly anti-William perhaps influenced by his heavy drinking – she is very anti-drink. He had heard that William was very diligent in managing the farm. They had a very balanced diet supplemented by herrings caught in William’s own boat. Pickled herring for the winter.
– Heard that William Dukelow was killed when walking back from Durrus.
– William Dukelow’s son Charles spent some time in Canada before returning home.
– William Dukelow definitely gave £200 dowry with Anne on marriage. Dowry details were negotiated by the 2 sets of parents. The £200 did not go to Henry Bryan, but £100 to his sisters Frances and Minnie as dowries for their marriages.
– William [was] supposed to have £2000 in Bantry Bank, while some of his neighbours were evicted.
– William drank most evenings in the hotel in Durrus.
– There was a Mr Leathem who preached on the evils of drink – he was a former schoolteacher who had lost his job through drink. He was put up at Brahalish one night after preaching to Mrs Dukelow & girls. William arrived back late, with[a] bottle of whiskey. On hearing of the guest, he insisted in loudly shouting out his name and insisting he shared the bottle with him. Next day Mr Leathem got up late & claimed that it was lucky that he had there to save William from being smothered in drink. Mrs Dukelow regarded him less highly as [a] result.
– Henry Bryan had to sell the Knockeenboy farm to pay off debts. (The land at Ballybrack is no better.) At one point he was rather hard-up – so went back to Brahalish looking for assistance. Anne’s parents [were] not impressed – “you got a good girl; a £200 fortune” &; [they] gave no help. Henry referred to Margaret Dukelow as of the “Cob Dubh” breed (black face in Irish) because of her dark face in response to his request.
– Henry Bryan ‘s family (and his cousin) were the first Protestants to live in Ballybrack neighbourhood. An old local man recently told him the crossroads beside the farm became known as “the Planter’s Cross”.
– Ballybrack farm [was] rented from a Charles Allworth who lived in Sunnyhill, Mallow. He was known as “the halfpenny bun landlord” because he always carried a large halfpenny bun around with him.
– Fanny Bryan of Ballymana eloped with Thaddeus Bryan by climbing out a widow of the Model School she was attending. Thaddeus had a horse waiting – they went off to Thaddeus’ married sister then living near Clonakilty. He then left her there for a couple of weeks which rather offended her. She was aged around 18.
– Fanny Bryan was well educated – could speak three languages – English, Irish & French.
– Heard that Thaddeus & Fanny had eleven children, but [he] can only name ten. – Before William; Anne were married William Dukelow came to inspect the Knockeenboy farm to assess the suitability of the family. [He was] not impressed – house too crowded; cluttered, so he stated. William [was] about to go. Henry had his horse’s bridle hidden to prevent him from going – got William another bottle of whiskey; eventually all was arranged.
– Henry’s daughter Ellen had an accident in the quarry behind the farm & had [a] leg amputated. She never really recovered & died as a result.
– Henry Bryan was a good singer ; musician – played [the] melodeon.
– Henry’s Uncle Charlie took him to his sister Ellen married to Busteed. He wanted to stay on when Charles insisted on leaving – he subsequently referred to him as “the old grey goat”. [see clarification below]
– Ballybrack farm did not originally include the 10 feet on the right-hand side beyond the chimney. The upstairs windows were originally flat-topped.
28 Monday Sep 2015
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James Skuse, from Clashadoo, Durrus, West Cork to Schoolmaster, Businessmen, Resident Blackrock Castle, Ship Owner Cork, Died 1913 Estate £18,137, Blackrock, Cork.
His residency at Blackrock Castle owned by the Cork harbor Commissioners may have been connected to him being a ship owner.
The Skuses may descent from a Cork soldier in the East Company whose son was born in India and returned presumable home to Derrynafulla, Glengariff. The family were involved as bailiffs and policemen and lived in Clashadoo, Durrus either on the present McCarthy farm or on a house attaching.
James Skuce married in 1853 in Rathelaren (Church of Ireland) parish church, his profession was School Master, resident in Ballycotton, Co. Cork, he married Miss Catherine Harris who was a School Mistress, also resident in Ballycotton. The birth record and baptism of their eldest son in 1856 in Drimoleague and James was described as a school master then. At the time of his wife Catherine’s death in 1868 James’s occupation was given as Clerk. James later remarried, this marriage was to Miss Rebecca Sophia Lester, a spinster resident in Kinsale, the marriage was in St Stephen’s Church in Dublin.
In 1875 when James and Catherine’s eldest daughter married, James’s profession is then given as Merchant.
The letter 1881 letter written by James to his brother, James states about his work pursuits, and mentions about one of the ships that he part owned. An Irish newspaper item mentioning another ship which he owned and this was in a collision with another vessel.
Irish Examiner May 5th 1876 page 3
James is mentioned in the English newspaper in Buckinghamshire and in the Commercial Gazette London in connection with The London and County Banking Company.
Bucks Herald
Saturday, February 22, 1879
The London and County Banking Company
Persons of whom the Company or Partnership consists.
Name. Residence. Occupation.
Skuce, James, Arbutus-place, Blackrock-road, Cork, Esq.
He also had shares in the T. Lyons and Co. Ltd, so could this have been the corn store he had been a Manager of prior to his retirement ?
The Irish Times
Friday, March 1, 1912
Page 11
Shareholders present: – … J. Skuce ..
The 1901 Census gives that James Skuce was aged 70, and was a retired Manager of a Corn Store. James died in 1913, he had been a very successful business man as he left a small fortune, which was left to his young widow and his unmarried daughters.
In the 1881 letter to his nephew, James Skuce states he was Chief Manager to the Chief Merchant in Cork, who was also part owner of his two ships, the “Glennarow”, a large iron ship 1500 tons, then on passage to Australia; and the “Assyrian” a 2 year old large timber ship, 1800 tons, then on route to Boston. USA. His son was second officer on the “Glennarow”.
In the 1901 Census he gives On the 1901 Census, James Skuce, Head of family, Church of Ireland., can read and write, 70, Retired Manager of Corn Store, Retired from Business, married, Born in Co. Cork.
May have been a manager of RH Halls Company. In the early 20th century extended family working in Cork Grain companies.
The letter 1881 letter written by James to his brother, James states about his work pursuits, and mentions about one of the ships that he part owned. I have this weekend found a Irish newspaper item mentioning another ship which he owned and this was in a collision with another vessel.
Irish Examiner May 5th 1876 page 3
these newspaper items below.
James Skuce married in 1853 in Rathelaren (Church of Ireland) parish church, his profession was School Master, resident in Ballycotton, Co. Cork, he married Miss Catherine Harris who was a School Mistress, also resident in Ballycotton. I found the birth record and baptism of their eldest son in 1856 in Drimoleague and James was described as a school master then . At the time of his wife Catherine’s death in 1868 James’s occupation was given as Clerk. James later remarried, this marriage was to Miss Rebecca Sophia Lester, a spinster resident in Kinsale, the marriage was in St Stephen’s Church in Dublin.
In 1875 when James and Catherine’s eldest daughter married, James ‘s profession is then given as Merchant.
The letter 1881 letter written by James to his brother, James states about his work pursuits, and mentions about one of the ships that he part owned. I have this weekend found a Irish newspaper item mentioning another ship which he owned and this was in a collision with another vessel.
Will:
Will of Mr Skuce, Cork, of St John’s, Blackrock Road. Cork, who died on the 31st October last, left personal estate in the United Kingdom valued at £18,137 10s., of which £5,201 5s is in England, and probate of his will, dated 23rd September, 1913, has been granted to his widow, Mrs Sophie Rebecca Skuce, of St John’s aforesaid, and his daughter, Miss Mary Skuce, of Clonfina, Kenilworth Road, Leamington, Warwick, and his nephew, Mr Allan Skuce, of the National Bank, Dundalk, Co. Louth, Ireland. Bank Official. The testator left £500 to his daughter, Mary, and the residue of his estate upon trust for his wife, and his daughters, Sophie, Emily and Dorothy, in equal shares.
Irish Examiner May 5th 1876 page 3
Interesting to see the custom of that time was to support unmarried family and so his married offspring did not get anything which must have been a hard disappointment.
Comment:
The connections keep on coming. I was researching James Skuce as he was a witness to a Cork City marriage between Watkins Harris and Mary Wilson in 1862. Watkin’s address is listed as White Street in Cork. Nine years earlier Skuce had married Catherine Harris in Rathclarin – likely a cousin of Watkins. An 1867 directory has James Skuce as superintendent of the ‘Industrial Ragged School’ – in White Street. (I was following this line of reasoning to try to tie Watkins back to the Harris families in Ballycatteen townland in Rathclarin.)
I found the two ships he mentioned in the 1883 Lloyds’ Register of Shipping – the ‘Glenavon’ of Cork (owner R.C. Hall) and the ‘Assyrian’ of Cork (owners R.C. Hall and A. Herbert). No mention of Skuce’s ownership (maybe he only had a fractional share and might not then be listed) but it does seem to link him to the grain business of R&H Hall.
It looks like one of the Halls occupied Blackrock Castle in the late 19C – so perhaps that is how Skuce came to be associated with the castle. I can find no clear reference to Skuce ever having lived there. For many years he lived at Arbutus Place on the Old Blackrock Road. He lived at St Johns – around the corner – at the time of his death in 1913.
28 Monday Sep 2015
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6hnQGE3ANjzNk8tRGY3OUl3RFlDYnYzTUZRVjNTOUhtZW40/view?ts=56096dad
Courtesy Danny Tobin.
Catholic Records 1760-1840.
The names are taken from a sample of the births registered in the parish of Muintervara for the period 1820-1840. As the parents and the sponsors are named it is assumed that on average they were born from 1790. The sample is divided into the period 1790-1820 for the parents and sponsors and 1820-40 for the children.
Female
1790-1820
Mary 56 Catherine 34 Ellen 24 Hanora 16 Anne 14 Brigid 13 Margaret 13 Elizabeth 10 Jane 7 Judith 7 Grace 5 Julia 4 Nancy 2 Norry 2 Nano 2 One each Frances, Mercy, Sarah, Maria, Ella, Susan, Sally, Joan.
1820-40
Mary 16 Catherine 9 Ellen 7 Anne 7 Margaret 6 Hanora 5 Johanna 5 Brigid 4 Judith 4 Julian 3 Helen 2 Eliza 2 One each Martha, Nancy, Jane.
Male
1790-1820
John 31 Denis 30 Daniel 30…
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28 Monday Sep 2015
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Ahakista, West Cork looking at the proposed site for a stone festival, involving the possible conservation of a cluster of Bardic stone buildings, from the 11th to 12th century.
28 Monday Sep 2015
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Beecher Estate Improvement from 1841, Voluntary Surrender of 200 holdings , reallocations, new roads.
Beecher Estate:
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/family-show.jsp?id=2442
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Robert Swanton, Ballydehob, (1764-1840), West Cork, United Irishman, Emigre to New York, Businessmen, Lawyer, US Political Activist, Judge, Home to Die With His Own People, Grave Early Example of Inscription in Irish Old Gaelic Script and Graveyard Inscription in old Irish, Gaelic Script, Port Fairy, Victoria, Australia for native of Co. Clare, Ireland, Aindriás Landrach (Andrew Landers), Fíor Gael, 1828-1912, with Photograph of Grave.
Australia old Irish Inscription:
His niece is buried in the same crypt she married Nathaniel Evanson of Durrus.
http://www.graveyards.skibbheritage.com/Gravestone.aspx?GravestoneID=655
28 Monday Sep 2015
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Aughadown, Skibbereen, Here lyeth the body of Colonel Thomas Becher eminent for justice and love of his country died aged 69 on 10th October 1708 Elizabeth his widow
who departed this life. The Bechers were major landlords in Aughadown. Colonel Thomas was aide-de-camp to King William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne, 1690..
?? 1720 age
Michael Becher
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The Burial Place
of
The Becher Family
Additional Information:
The Bechers were major landlords in Aughadown. Colonel Thomas was aide-de-camp to King William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne.
Patent of Charles 2, 1668 of England to Lands in West Cork to Henry and John Beecher and John Bayley
http://www.graveyards.skibbheritage.com/Gravestone.aspx?GravestoneID=184
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Died 1906, Buried Abbeymahon Graveyard, Skibbereen, Frederick Peel Eldon Potter was the founder of the Eldon Hotel and the newspaper the “Skibbereen Eagle”. He was most famous for his comment that he was “Keeping his Eye on the Tsar of Russia”.
http://www.graveyards.skibbheritage.com/Gravestone.aspx?GravestoneID=653