1823. Cork Magistrates who got Statues. 1890 Rabies in Dunmanway and Schull.

 

Some of the records of the Chief Secretary’s Office in Dublin Castle for some years have been digitised and are freely accessible online:

http://www.csorp.nationalarchives.ie/index.html

Professor Francis J Crowley’s bequest

• The project was named after the late Professor Francis J Crowley, whose bequest funded the project.
• Professor Crowley, was born in New Haven, Connecticut, to Irish parents. Having received his education at Yale and Princeton universities, he became professor of French at the University of California, Los Angeles.
• In his will he bequeathed most of his estate to the Republic of Ireland to be used for the preservation of records of the history of the Irish people.

Aims of project

• The Crowley Project aims
  • to catalogue the Chief Secretary’s Office Registered Papers (CSORP) from 1818 to 1852 to international archival descriptive standards in order to facilitate public access
  • to preserve the papers in order to maintain their physical condition
• The papers contain an estimated 230,000 items or ‘files’ in 815 boxes.
• The papers were formerly in a state of disarray having being loosely filed into bundles in boxes. Once processed the papers are physically re-ordered into acid-free archival folders and housed within archival boxes.
• Contract archivists, working at the National Archives, Ireland commenced this project in 2008. The project also employed a dedicated conservator.

The parts of the 1880s adn 1890s are like somethin from the Stasi failed in East Germany, nothing is too small to document.  The theft of a goat, burning of a hay rick a seditious sermon preached.  Among these indexes are the reference to rabies unfortunately there paper share not available they may have been mis filed or lost.

This information was presumably collected by the RIC of the Resident Magistrate and kept centrally in Dublin Castle.

 

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Cork Magistrates who got Statutes 1823.

 

Cork Magistrates:

 

Cork Magistrates, 10th June 2019.

 

Most of the magistrates were Protestant Landlords or Church of Ireland Clergymen. Until Disestablishment 1870 this was the Irish State Church and apart from religion performed quite a number of civil functions administered by the Minister, Select Vestry and Churchwardens.

 

From around this time on more Catholics were appointed Magistrates some had been appointed since the 1790s. This was supplemented by (RMs) Resident Magistrate’s to remedy a widely believed bias among the Magistrates.  By the early 20th century probably most of the appointment wee those who were Catholic and Nationalist due to the influence the Irish Parliamentary Party on various British Governments.

 

Marquess of Thomond

Earl of Shannon

Earl of Bantry

Earl of Mount Cashel

Lord Carbery

Lord Ennismore

Honourable and Rev. James St. Ledger

Honourable and Rev. G.D. Beresford

Sir James L. Cotter

John Hyde

Robert Hedges Eyre

Richard Aldworth

Edward D. Freeman

George Charles Jeffreys

Rev. William Stewart

William Moore? Hodder

Justin McCarthy

William Stawell

John Travers

Rev. John Townsend?

Simon White

Rev. John Townsend

Rev. James Hingston

Rev. George Sealy Baldwin

Rev. Samuel Beamish

Rev. Joseph Jervois

Rev. Joshua B. Ryder

Rev.John Lombard

Rev. Jonathan Bruce

REv. Somers Payne

Rev. Edward H. Kenny

Rev. George Armstrong

David Reid

Thomas Walker

Samuel Swete

John Swete

Thomas Harding

Meade Hobson (Assistant Barrister?)

Crofton Uniacke

Henry Croker

Nathaniel Evanson

Horace Townsend

John Grove White

Clutterbrook Crone

Richard ? Parker

Robert Travers

Treasurer

William Baldwin

Rev. John Ware Edgar

Thomas George French

William H?? Newenham

Rev.Charles Smith

George Purcell

Rev. John Chester

Edward Roche

Rev. John G. Madras

John Meade

Henry Greene Barry

Rev.  Newenham

William Cooke Collis

Thomas St. John Grant

Rev. Robert Morrett

Joseph Haines

Robert Courtney

Adam Newman

Lord Doneraile

John Smith Barry

Charles D. O. Jephson

Thomas Burke

Thomas Wallis

Andrew Batwell

Edward Wallis Hoare

Rev. John Orpen

William Wrixon Beecher

Francis Rowland

Thomas Harris

Henry Wallis

 

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Some Genealogical Notes on the Fergusons of Durrus and Bantry.

 

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jK8TrEzZ4QXgH2n-6V4hMQbGePYYH2YTYr9f1jLRxug/edit

 

Bandon Estate Records for Durrus post 1854, Ferguson/Skuse:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LVgcai4i4QWpyLFvKhEgQAMjtdhjI6VhRrBr2XMWC2U/edit#gid=0

CSO/RP/1821/36. File of papers relating to problems in County Cork with arrangements for 1821 census to be carried out, under terms of the population act. Includes printed letter from William Shaw Mason, secretary of Records Commission, Records Tower, Dublin Castle, to the magistrates of County Cork, concerning ill-preparedness of some of the baronies of County Cork to carry out the census. ‘It is, indeed, a matter of much regret and surprise, that the concerns of a County, the most extensive, populous and respectable in Ireland, should be so deficient in arrangement, as not to afford the means of carrying this measure into effect with equal ease as in all other places, and that, out of upwards of 200 resident and acting Magistrates, so very few indeed were to be found to undertake the duty entrusted to them by the Legislature, of selecting efficient Enumerators, and superintending their proceedings’, 1 May 1821.

Selected fragments from Lost Census of 1821, Parishes of Kilbrogan, Bandon, Murragh, Kinneigh, Townlands:  West Bangour, Raheen, Lisaraurk, Farrabmareen.

1821 Census was taken over a period from 28 May 1821.  destroyed in 1922 but survives for parts of the following counties: Cavan, Fermanagh, Galway, Offaly and Meath. The census recorded the following information on each member of the household: Name, Age, Occupation, Townland, Parish.

Welply:

Some Cork Wills (1528-1859), destroyed in 1922 copied by William Henry Welply of Balineen, West Cork.

https://wordpress.com/post/durrushistory.com/10226

Census:

https://wordpress.com/post/durrushistory.com/27861

https://wordpress.com/post/durrushistory.com/35160

Census of Ireland 1851 : Fanlobbus (Dunmanway)

Parishes:

Kilbrogan

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1824  Barony of Carbery, in West Cork, which has good roads, corn stores and regular shipping to Cork, Dublin and even Portugal.

The Kerry Orpen family are related by marriage to the Hutchinsons landlord family of Clonee, Durrus, Swantons of Ballydehob, O’Sullivans of Ballighadown, Drimoleague/Caheragh.  The artist William Orpen is of the family he spent his honeymoon early 1900s in Kealkil where a relation was the dispensary doctor.

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=1883

Burke describes the Orpen family as claiming great antiquity. They settled in Ireland after the Cromwellian wars and married into some of the other influential families in Co. Kerry including the Herberts.

Richard Orpen was agent for Sir William Petty on his Co. Kerry estates. Over 4000 acres of the estate of Richard Becher Opren in the barony of Glanarought were offered for sale in the Encumbered Estates Court in November 1852. The petitioner was John B. Warren, who later acquired parts of the Orpen lands in this area. Over 10,000 acres of the estate of Adrian Taylor, in which members of the Orpen and Warren families had an interest, were offered for sale in the Encumbered Estates Court in May 1855. Richard J.T. Orpen was one of the principal lessors in the parishes of Kenmare and Kilgarvan at the time of Griffith’s Valuation. In the 1870s the estate of the late Sir Richard Orpen amounted to over 12,000 acres in Co. Kerry as well as 300 acres in Co. Cork. The representatives of F.H. Orpen were the proprietors of 800 acres in county Kerry at the same time.

Bantry/Durrus Hutchinsons:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ce2v219hccdaJWm3mLL7gz-ocnDFxNTD_bWJEV1RAL0/edit

CSO/RP/1824/1466 TITLE: Letter from Emanuel Hutchinson Orpen, Dublin, concerning commercial development needs of County Kerry SCOPE & CONTENT: Letter from Emanuel Hutchinson Orpen, attorney, 50 Exchequer Street, Dublin, to Henry Goulburn, Chief Secretary, Dublin Castle, offering detailed observation on impediments to progress of commercial development of southern County Kerry. Comments on backward state of district from Dingle bay to Kenmare, and seeks a good road from district of Killarney to the harbour of Sneem; such a development would facilitate creation of a broader infrastructure for local commerce and export trade. Remarks on poverty of people and quotes from earlier letter the greater part of the tenantry on estate of Marquis Lansdowne [Henry Petty-Fitzmaurice] ‘actually make his Lordship’s rent by begging’. Points to example of Carbery, in County Cork, which has good roads, corn stores and regular shipping to Cork, Dublin and even Portugal. Urges parliamentary assistance for public works in Ireland, for fishing and manufacturing, and extension of bounties for flax production. Alludes also to applications from principal landowners in region for laying of new roads in order to improve travel and enhance access.

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NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/1824/1466

TITLE:

Letter from Emanuel Hutchinson Orpen, Dublin, concerning commercial development needs of County Kerry

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Letter from Emanuel Hutchinson Orpen, attorney, 50 Exchequer Street, Dublin, to Henry Goulburn, Chief Secretary, Dublin Castle, offering detailed observation on impediments to progress of commercial development of southern County Kerry. Comments on backward state of district from Dingle bay to Kenmare, and seeks a good road from district of Killarney to the harbour of Sneem; such a development would facilitate creation of a broader infrastructure for local commerce and export trade. Remarks on poverty of people and quotes from earlier letter the greater part of the tenantry on estate of Marquis Lansdowne [Henry Petty-Fitzmaurice] ‘actually make his Lordship’s rent by begging’. Points to example of Carbery, in County Cork, which has good roads, corn stores and regular shipping to Cork, Dublin and even Portugal. Urges parliamentary assistance for public works in Ireland, for fishing and manufacturing, and extension of bounties for flax production. Alludes also to applications from principal landowners in region for laying of new roads in order to improve travel and enhance access.

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http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/10407/page/230656

 

Some West Cork RIC men:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193TpfHYRXIBQb0nzVLTs_Cl-oebYYnFAebmtxvDiYzY/edit#gid=0

Courtesy Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Irish_Constabulary

1804, Parish Constable Authorised to Remove Single Woman who has given birth to a Female Bastard Child who is likely to be a charge on the Parish to The House of Correction, to Punish her and set her to Work for One Whole Year.  Warrant to Apprehend the Father of a Bastard Child.

Until the Church of Ireland was Disestablished in 1871 it was the Irish State Church.  For Vestry Minutes for West Cork which have survived r were often two meetings, the first to deal with religious matters and the second often having Catholic attendees dealing with civic matters.  One item that often came up was the care of foundlings, the payment of wet nurses and the financing of same.

The Cork Grand Jury records often have an allocation for Parish to provide finance for such care.The reference to the Parish Constable was the situation before the RIC came into being in the 1820s. These Constable had a poor reputation and were often broken down old  military pensioners mostly Protestant.

 

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Some years ago a Canadian Researcher looked at the 19th Irish Catholic and Protestant and conclude what difference theewere between them weemonor.  He distinguishes them from other Northern Europeans showing that they had large families, a propensity to emigrate and low rates of illegitimacy.

 

In the mid 1830 the Devon Commission looking at Irish Poverty had a questionnaire  on ‘bastardy’.  One of the issues what was happened when a girl became pregnant by a ‘Gentleman’.  Apparently there was a well developed pattern of compensation which would then enable her to marry well.  It may explain some of the surprising DNA results coming through recently.

1804 Justice of the Peace (Magistrate) Guide, Papist Warrants including Committal of a Popish Priest for Marrying Contrary to Law.

Even in 1804 these measures were a throwback to the Penal Laws of the early 18th century and had fallen into abeyance.  The marriage stipulation features in a major case c 1770s involving one of the Bantry Whites (later Lord Bantry family).  He had married a Miss Dillon, a Catholic.  He later had the marriage annulled as it was illegal having been  performed by a ‘Popish Priest’

The Guide generally contains many measures of an economic nature the regulation of linen/flax, butter, coopering, roads, bridges.

 

 

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The regulation of Marriage was done by the Church of Ireland then the State Church of Ireland through the Diocesan Court and Registry, for Cork:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FWBV3gRAeVpYqD5Nlq9j4by9xQGww9Y141pT1mZshpA/edit

 

Cork Marriage Licence Bonds:

 

Click to access index_to_marriage_license_bonds_diocese_cork_and_ross.pdf