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1851. Letter from Dr. John O’Donovan, Antiquarian, to Robert McAdam Esq., Soho Foundry in Belfast, Responsible for Question on Irish in 1851 Census of Ireland.

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1851. Letter from Dr. John O’Donovan, Antiquarian, to Robert McAdam Esq., Soho Foundry in Belfast, Responsible for Question on Irish in 1851 Census of Ireland.

 

From Graves Collection, Royal Irish Academy.

 

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Historical Letters:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCiBrLiBZtDkU8Ug5hZn9HnIZgfN1dvK2kkfaDUb600/edit

 

 

FROM DR. JOHN O’DONOVAN, ANTIQUARIAN

Letter to Robert McAdam Esq., Soho Foundry in Belfast from Newcomen Place, Dublin 8 (March, 17th, 1851)

‘Dear Sir,

I have received your note of the 14th and cannot but admire your enthusiasm about the census.  I do not think that a clergy of any of our religions could be of any use to us.  The Catholic Church clergy are moving heaven and earth to extinguish the Irish language and therefore it would be useless to trust them.  The Protestants could not get any true returns and I therefore think we ought to test content with the police returns.  Of course most of the Irish speakers will be found in the poor houses!  However I shall be in Belfast very soon again to deliver some lectures on the Celtic dialects.  I do not believe that you or any other friends there will be able to procure me any pupils, and I am therefore afraid to go live amongst you.  When I do see you next I shall tell you various plans of mine for advancing Celtic literature.

Yours very sincerely,

John O’Donovan

 

1759. Will of Edward Evanson, Antigua, West Indies to my Kinsman, Nathaniel Evanson, Senior, Four Mile Water (Gearhameen, Durrus), Bantry, £200 a year and if he comes to the West Indies after my Death My Wine and Old Rum and £30 Sterling to The Society for the Promoting the English Protestant Schools in Ireland, Dublin.

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1759. Will of Edward Evanson, Antigua, West Indies to my Kinsman, Nathaniel Evanson, Senior, Four Mile Water (Gearhameen, Durrus), Bantry, £200 a year and if he comes to the West Indies after my Death My Wine and Old Rum and £30 Sterling to The Society for the Promoting the English Protestant Schools in Ireland, Dublin.

In other wills recited Evanson Christian names such as Charles occur.  Names common in the greater Bantry area in the mid 18th century occur Symms, Warner.

 

Will 1800, Mrs Eliza Gethin (late husband Percy), Cork, extensive property owner including Upton (Garryhenkera) mentioned Dr. Boyle Coughlan, leaves £20 to ‘To the mulatto boy known as James Kelly, the sum of £30 the interest to provide for his clothing’

Pedigree and Will of Daniel McCarthy, 1702, Estate Owner, Slave Owner, Extended family Include Hallorans, Burkes, Connells other Irish Pedigrees Lyons and Morre of Offaly names include Donovan, Driscoll, Evanson from Vere Langford Olivere’s , 1896, History of Island of Antigua.

Marriage:

1696 Thomas Evanson Elizabeth Looby Probably pre Durrus MLB

 

1724, Antigua,West Indies Nathaniel Evanson the 2nd, Mary (Martha) Alleyn Edward Alleyn of Ballyduvane Issue Charles, Alleyn, Nathaniel, Richard, Martha, Susanna, Charles m in Antigua a widow Knight two children Nathaniel and Martha. Aleyn second son of Martha Alleyn married alos in Antigua Susanna Seely (Ceely)near cousin to Sir W Young Governor of Antigua Governor related to Montague and Nibbs family (Miss ceely’s niece married a Mr Gordon). Nathaniel died unmarried. Richard married Miss Harris whose mother was Miss Beamish Married in Antigua, Carribean? In 1810s and onwards Nathaniel Evanson is mentioned as are other Evansons as slave owners in Barbados, they are viewable on ancestry

Some families in the Cork area in bold:

 

Pedigrees and genealogical information for many prominent Antigua families were published in:

  • Oliver, Vere Langford. The History of the Island of Antigua: One of the Leeward Caribbees in the West Indies, from the First Settlement in 1635 to the Present Time. 3 vols. London: Mitchell and Hughes, 1894-1899. FHL Collection; digital versions at Internet Archive:
    • Volume One includes genealogies of †Abbot, Abbott, Alexander, Alexander (see Dasent), †Allen, †Anderson, †Archibald, Ash, †Athill, Athy, Auchinleck, Ayres, †Baijer, †Bannister, Barnes, †Barter, Barton, †Bendall, †Bethell, †Blackman, Bladen, †Blake, †Blizard, Bodkin, Bolan, †Bonnin, Boone, †Boraston, †Bott, Bradshaw, †Brown, †Buckley, †Burke, †Burt, Burton, †Butler, †Byam, †Cade, Carden, Carlile, †Carpenter, †Carter, †Cary, †Chester, Christian, †Clarke, †Clogstown, †Cochran, †Codrington, †Collins, †Colquhoun, Cosby (see Eliot), †Coull, Crabb, †Crawford, Crump, Cusack, †Daniel, †Dasent, Davis, Delap, Denbow, †Dewar, De Witt, Doig, Donovan, †Douglas, †Dow, Drax (see Codrington), †Duer, †Dunbar, †Duncombe, Dunn, †Dunning, †Edwards, †Ellyatt, Eliot, †Elmes, †Entwisle, Erwin (see Dasent), Evanson, †Farley, Fergusson, Ferris, †Field, †Fleming, †Foote, †Franklin, †Fraser, †Freeman, †French, and †Frye families.
    • Volume Two includes genealogies of †Anderdon (see Manning), Blackwell (see Jarvis), Gale, †Gallwey, †Gamble, †Garrett, Gaynor, Gilbert, †Gilchrist, Gillyat, Glanvile, †Gloster, Glover, Goble, †Gordon, †Grant, Gravenor, Gray, Grear, Greenway, †Gunthorpe, Haddon, †Halliday, Halloran, †Hamilton, †Hanson, †Harman, †Hart, Harvey, †Hawes, †Herbert, †Hill, Hillhouse, †Hodge, Hodges, †Horne, †Horsford, Hughes, †Humphreys, Hurst, Huyghue, †Hyndman, †Iles, †Jarvis, †Jeaffreson, †Johnson, Jones, Keeling, Kelsick, †Ker, †Kerby, Keynell, †King, †Kirwan, †Knight, Knightley, †Laferty, †Laforey, Langelier, †Langford, Laroche, Lavicount, †Lavington, Ledeatt, Ledwell, †Lee, †Leonard, Le Roux, †Lessly, Libaert, †Lightfoot, Lindsey, Lingham, Lisle, †Livingston, Looby, †Lovell, †Lucas, †Lucie, †Lynch, †Lyons, †McCarthy, †Mackinen, †McNish, †Manning, Manwaring, Marchant, †Martin, †Mathew, Mathews, Maxwell, †Mayer, Middleton, Millar, Monke, Monteigue, Montero, Morgan, †Morris, †Morson, Muir, †Murray, Musgrave, †Nanton, Newfiele, †Nibbs, Nicholas, †Nihell, †Nisbitt, †Nugent, Oesterman, †Oliver, Osborn, and †Ottley families.
    • Volume Three includes genealogies of Pare, †Parke, Parker, Parry, Patterson, †Payne, Paynter, Pearne, †Perry, †Pigott, †Pollington, †Powell, †Poyntz, Prynn, Pyle, Redhead, †Redwood, †Richardson, †Roach, †Rodney, Ronan, Rose, Rossington, Royall, †Russell, Salmond, Sampson, †Saunders, Sawcolt, Scholes, †Scotland, Sedgwick, †Shand, †Shephard, Sheriff, Shervington, Shirley, Skerrett, †Smith, Sones, †Stapleton, †Swete,†Symes, †Tankard, Tempest, Tharter, †Thibou, †Thomas, †Tobin, Tomlinson, †Trant, †Traveis, Tremills, †Tudway, †Tullideph, Turner, Turney, Tyley, Vaughan, Vernon, Walrond, †Warner, Watkins, Watson, Weatherill, †Webb, Weir, Weston, Wethered, †White, Whitehead, Wickham, †Williams, Willock, †Willoughby, Winthrop, †Wise, †Woodley, †Wyke, †Yeamans, Yorke, and Young families.

†Additional information on these families appears in the Appendix to Volume Three, which begins on page 41

 

 

http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_History_of_the_Island_of_Antigua_One_of_the_Leeward_Caribbees_in_the_1000869829/429

 

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Creation of Baron of Kinsale, Co. Cork Originally by Tenure by Writ of Summons and By Patent in 1397, 20th Richard 2nd. Baron Carbery Created 1715.

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The Gentleman’s and London Magazine: Or Monthly Chronologer, 1741-1794

 

Creation of Baron of Kinsale, Co. Cork Originally by Tenure by Writ of Summons and By Patent in 1397, 20th Richard 2nd.  Baron Carbery Created 1715.

 

 

 

 

Baron Carbery Created 1715:

 

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Discovery of Lost Vellum Manuscript, documenting the Genealogy of the Very Ancient and Illustrious House of the O’Reillys, formerly Princes and Dynasts of Breifne O’Reilly, now called the County of Cavan in the Kingdom of Ireland, over 1,000 years in Munich 2008, Irish presence in Cuba, 18th century and Irish named street escape Castro embargo on Spanish Street Names Havana.

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Discovery of Lost Vellum Manuscript, documenting the Genealogy of the Very Ancient and Illustrious House of the O’Reillys, formerly Princes and Dynasts of Breifne O’Reilly, now called the County of Cavan in the Kingdom of Ireland, over 1,000 years in Munich 2008, Irish presence in Cuba, 18th century and Irish named street escape Castro embargo on Spanish Street Names Havana.

John Kileen, Librarian of the Linen Hall Library, Belfast gave a lecture in the RDS documenting the history of the O’Reilly Genealogy located in Munich in 2008. The enquires determined that the Genealogy was commissioned by Count O’Reilly an Irish born senior Military figure in the late 18th century. Thecost was over £1,000 equaring to over €100, 000 in present day values.

It was done by Chevalier Thomas O’Gorman an Irish born Genealogist (1722-1809) based in France. The Linen Hall library are bring out a limited edition of the Genealogy…

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1834 Listing of Cess Payers of Baronies of Bere and Bantry and Carbery, West Cork

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1834 Listing of Cess Payers of Baronies of Bere and  Bantry and  Carbery, West Cork

Thanks to Wikipedia.

The cess to pay for roads, bridges, and other public works was set per barony. “Presentment sessions“, where petitioners applied for funding for such works, were originally held as part of the county assizes, though the costs were paid from the barony cess if the work was of local benefit only. The county grand jury was supposed to have included jurors from each barony, though this did not always happen.[28] From 1819,[29] significantly modified in 1836,[30] baronial presentment sessions were held for these purposes, with a local jury picked by the county grand jury from among the barony’s highest rate-payers, according to a complicated formula.[31] The baronial presentment sessions were a convoluted process, lacking public confidence and marred by allegations of corruption and favouritism.

There was a growing recognition in London of the inadequacies of these ascendancy-dominated structures by the early nineteenth century. Thirty-six out of ninety-nine chartered boroughs were eliminated as corrupt and inefficient by the Act of Union in 1801. Subsequent to a series of damaging select committee reports on the grand jury system in the 1820s, legislation regulating annual salaries for county officers, instituting uniform methods of assessing county cess and providing for limited representation of cess payers when grand juries were deliberating road expenditures, brought some minor improvement in the 1830s.

The composition of the cess payers listed here reflects a shift in power from the Landed Gentry to the Catholic, Church of Ireland and Methodist business people and strong tenant farmers.  This process accelerated throughout the century.

Courtesy Gordo Kingston:

https://kyngeston.wordpress.com/author/gjrkingston/page/5/

 

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1832 Cholera in Bantry, 1838 Address of Subscribers to John Symms Bird, on Retiring as Treasurer of Bantry Dispensary.

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1832 Cholera in Bantry, 1838 Address to John S. Bird, on Retiring as Treasurer of Bantry Dispensary.

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1810, 1831, 1840Dr. Thomas Burke1824, Surgeon, HP, Blackrock-road (NGC). Possible The Square, 1810 Thomas Burke Half Pay Surgeon married Margaret McCarthy, (1784-1831), possibly through her he acquired lands at Caheragh, she was likely of the Muclaghs (Clann Tighe Roe Scartaigh) and the lands from McCarthy Gurtnascreena.May be from Caheragh the person that poet JJ Callanan stayed with for around 2 years when he wrote Gougan Barra and Lamesnt to Morty Oge. memorial to Father Walsh PP leaving Bantry. Attending Great Meeting re Poor Law in 1840, Bantry, gave a speech promoting reeclamation of waste, mine development, employment rather than charity. 1846 distress meeting Bantry.1832 contacted fever attending Cholera Hospital Bantry voteof thanks by John Y. Kingston.Southern Reporter and Cork Commercial Courier 28 April 1831

Death from Cholera Skibbereen 1830s:

James Swanton Vickery (C1837-1908) from West Cork, to Stockbroking in Australia.

Southern Reporter and Cork Commercial Courier 26 May 1838

The Birds were prominent in Bantry for centuries as fish merchants, adn land holders.

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Dicul, Irish Monk and teacher at Court of Charlemagne, geographer and author of De Astronomium 814 AD taught by Brother Fidelmus of Fermanagh who went to Egypt to measure Pyramids and Astronomy in Ireland AD 442-1133.

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Dicul, Irish Monk and teacher at Court of Charlemagne, geographer and author of De Astronomium 814 AD taught by Brother Fidelmus of Fermanagh who went to Egypt to measure Pyramids and Astronomy in Ireland AD 442-1133.

From Google Books:

http://books.google.ie/books?id=0fgIAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT97&lpg=PT97&dq=diciul+geographer&source=bl&ots=6yCaAowXRF&sig=0evntInzpAeCmQsUgOOSSrrwZkU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HicwVISjEYTd7Qa76oDwAg&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=diciul%20geographer&f=false

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