22 Monday Aug 2016
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Genealogy of MacCarthys, Lords of Muskerry, Co. Cork, from 1380-1641.
By Herbert Webb Gillman BL JP, 1892.
Courtesy JCHAS 1892.
Genealogy of McCarthys of Glenachram from 1366 and history of Dunmanway, Togher Castle, West Cork.
22 Monday Aug 2016
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Toby Bernard, Mizen Journal 2004
Extract from letter ‘Very Bad Mutton and Beef, you Can’t Conceive of the Wretchedness of it’, of Godwin Swift (Customs Man), 16th May 1757 from Crookhaven, West Cork, Ireland.
‘Now with regard to the place and provisions: you are to know that you see nothing here but mountains of rock (not cliffs) and yet those rocks are more dear to poor people or strangers as the lands within 2 miles of Dublin. There is here undoubtedly great plenty of fish, yet the people are so lazy they’d rather live on salt mackerel and potatoes then give themselves the trouble to take fresh fish. There is no garden stuff here, very bad mutton and lamb, and no beef, not a tree or even…
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22 Monday Aug 2016
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Rev. Fitzgerald Tisdall, Rector of Kilmoe (Goleen), West Cork, Founder and Commandant of Crookhaven Yeomanry Corps, Murdered at Priest’s Leap, 1809.
From Meziere Brady
In the 19th century Tisdalls married into the Murphy family of Bantry who in Newtown were millers, middling landowners, and were auctioneers. family members appear as jurors, and local administrative bodies. The impressive ruins of the mills are about a mile outside Bantry on the Glengariff road.
Léim an tSagairt (Priest’s Leap) 1612 or possibly Earlier from Francis 1589 map
21 Sunday Aug 2016
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21 Sunday Aug 2016
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1864. For Sale A First Class Whaleboat, Apply H. Justice, Ballydehob, West Cork.
21 Sunday Aug 2016
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1863, The Fibre Optic Broadband of the 1860s, Opening of Telegraph Office Skibbereen, Wires Extended to Baltimore and Submerged Cable to Sherkin. The American Intelligence will be Received Six Hours Sooner, Cork Market News to Be Received in Morning.
20 Saturday Aug 2016
Historical definition of Townland as the area that could be ploughed by a Seisreach (A Six-Horse team) in Forty Eight Days. This is from Pádraig Ó Loingsigh history of the parish of Caherdaniel.
Old Irish Land Measurements Ploughlands and Gneeves frequently appear as land measurements in estate surveys, and deeds, leases, mortgages, marriage settlements up to the early 19th century. From the time of the Ordnance survey adn Griffith’s Valuation 1850 they disappear.
In Gaelic society wealth was often computed by the number of cows a man had i.e. ‘Fear dhá bhó’ (a man of two cows). There can be variation depending on soil fertility as as in Irish Féar dhá bhó, the grass of two cows, etc
Example of a deed:
1798, Richard Tonson Evanson, Mornhill, Co. Cork, and Nathaniel Evanson, Janeville, Co. Cork, eldest son of said Richard demise to William Swanton, Ballydehob, for various lives, part of the ploughland of Ardogoinagh lately in the occupation of William Justin and son to the westwards of the line of road from Carrigbui to Skibbereen, containing 9 Gneeves and the grazing of 13-14 collops at on the mountain of East Droumreiagh given to William Justin and son at a rent of £20 a year for 6 years and thereafter.
From the book, “Census of Ireland, 1901: General Topographical Index…”, comes this explanation: “The Townlands and Baronies, which varied in different Provinces, are the most ancient divisions, and they existed under other names prior to the introduction of Christianity. The Barony or Trioca céad consisted of Ballybetaghs or Townlands, Ploughlands, Seisreaghs or Carrows, Tates or Ballyboes, Sessiaghs, Gneeves and Acres. The following is a Table showing these divisions: — 10 acres = 1 Gneeve. 2 Gneeves = 1 Sessiagh. 3 Sessiaghs = 1 Tate or Ballyboe. 2 Ballyboes = 1 Ploughland, Seisreagh or Carrow (120 aacres). 4 Ploughlands = 1 Ballybetagh or Townland 30 Ballybetaghs = 1 Trioca céad or Barony.
From Wikipedia:
A collop (Irish: cológ) is a measure of land sufficient to graze one cow. In Irish tradition, a collop is defined as the amount of land deemed capable of producing enough to support one family, or the number of cattle that the family could rear by pasture on it. It was the basis for the division of common land in the western parts of Ireland in the 18th and early 19th centuries. As in the Rundale system, the collop was scattered over several different fields, so that good and bad land was equally divided.[1] In Eric Cross’s The Tailor and Ansty, Timothy “the Tailor” Buckley describes a collop as “an old count for the carrying power of land”, noting that it was the grazing of one cow, or two yearling heifers, or six sheep, or twelve goats, or six geese and a gander, while a horse would require three collops. He describes it as a superior method of reckoning land to the acre, noting a man whose holding of 4,000 acres of barren land produces scarcely enough to feed four cattle.
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19 Friday Aug 2016
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1822. Local Fishery Committees, Kinsale, Clonakilty, Glandore, Baltimore, Crookhaven For Bantry Timothy O’Donovan JP, O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus, Michael O’Sullivan, Rev. Edward Jones Alcock, Rector Durrus, John Jagoe later Fishery Commissioner, Michael Murphy, Newtown, Bantry, Rev. M McChean, Bantry, John Sandys Bird.
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Background to Members
Mostly Magistrates
Clonakilty
John Leslie, 1835, Sovereign, Clonakilty, probably Courtmacsherry,1835 commenting on good conduct of military in 1835 elections. 1822 local fishery committee. The Leslies of Cork were a branch of the Leslie family of Kincraigie, County Donegal, descended from the Lairds of Kincraigie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Reverend Matthew Leslie, rector of Kilmacrenan, Co. Donegal in the early 18th century and son of Reverend John Leslie of Kincraigie, Co. Donegal, had four sons including Charles Leslie, medical doctor, of Cork. Charles married Anne Lawton. They had a number of sons including Charles Henry Leslie and John Leslie, bankers, of Cork. Charles H. Leslie also established the gunpowder mills at Ballincollig. In 1784 he married Lucia Izod of Wilton, near Cork city, and John married Catherine Hyde of Castle Hyde. Charles and Lucia had at least two sons, Matthew Leslie and Kevan Izod Leslie, The latter married Margaret Uniacke. Kevan and Margaret were the parents of Reverend Richard U. Leslie, born 1823. In the mid 19th century Matthew Leslie held at least nine townlands in the parish of Kilquane, barony of Barrymore, and some land in the parish of St Finbarrs.
Colonel Robert Travers, Timoleague House. 1822 local fishery committee. 1828 seeking reform of House of Commons. Pre 1830, listed 1835, 1838, sitting Timoleague, 1835.
John Sealy, 1791, Richmount, 1831, descendant of Dr John, the brother of Armiger and George (Gortnahorna). 1828 seeking reform of House of Commons. Possible Clonakilty Fishery Committee Member 1823.
Glandore
Thomas Hungerford Esq., Island House, Clonakilty. 1822 local fishery committee. Vice president Bandon Brunswick Constitutional Club 1828. County Freeman of Cork City voting in Cork City Election 1837. Listed 1835, 1838, 1842, 1843, sitting Rosscarbery, 1835. Gave evidence 1835 to enquiry to Poor Law Commission. 1861. Supporting Alexander O’Driscoll, J.P. suspended, Bandon 1841. Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837, subscriber 1861 to Smith’s History of Cork. attended 18, Grand Jury Presentments.
Richard d. Adams, Pre 1830, voted 1850 for Denis Galwey as High Constable for Ibane and Ballyroe (Clonakilty). 1822 local fishery committee.
Philip Somerville -1861), Priory (Prairie), Schull, 1850, listed 1850, 1856, 3rd son Thomas, Drishane, and Mary d Philip Townsend, Derry, m 1. daughter Horace Townsend, 2. 1816 Harriet d Richard Townsend, the Point, 3. Isabella d Redmond Uniacke, Old Court, Captain South Cork Militia. 1822 local fishery committee. Freeman of Cork. Donor 1825 to Schull Catholic Church. Listed in 1841 election Longfield/Leader, £50 freeholder North Lisacaha, Schull. Receiver under Court of Chancery for W. H. Hull, a minor turned out 10 from Hull estate at Lowertown 1845. Probate 1861 to John Limrick, Union Hall, £4,000.
Baltimore
John Freke Esq., 1824, Baltimore. Subscriber 1821 Dr Thomas Wood’s ‘Primitive Inhabitants of Ireland. 1822 local fishery committee.
Richard Somerville, Present at enquiry Skibbereen 1823 into enquiry into fatal affray at Castlehaven caused by Rev. Morritt’s tithe extraction. 1822 local fishery committee. 1825 two day Admiralty sitting re’ Clio’, St. Johns New Brunswick, Skibbereen, Richard Townsend with Richard Townsend Junior, William Somerville Limrick, Richard Neville Somerville, award partially overturned by Baron Pennyfeather Cork Assizes.
Samuel Townsend, Senior (1768-1836), Christ Church, Oxford, Whitehall, Skibbereen, son of Edward Mansell (Splendid Ned) and Anna Baldwin, m 1794 Mercy Baldwin, d Walter Baldwin, Curravordy, Bandon. Member Hanover Association meeting Cork 1791 re Whiteboys. Freeman Cork, 1798. 1821 meeting on distress Skibbereen called on Landed Proprietor to take into account deplorable state of tenantry. 1822 local fishery committee. High Sheriff, Deputy Lord-Lieutenant, Co. Cork 1835, sitting Skibbereen, 1835. Signed public declaration in Skibbereen to Alexander O’Driscoll on his removal as Magistrate 1835 with Lord Bantry, Simon White, John Puxley, Arthur Hutchins, Thomas Baldwin, Samuel Townsend Junior and Senior, Thomas Somerville, Richard Townsend Senior, Rev. Alleyn Evanson, Timothy O’Donovan, Richard Townsend, Lyttleton Lyster.
Michael O’Driscoll, Superseded 1810-30. Possibly 1822 local fishery committee Baltimore.
Crookhaven
Daniel Coughlan, Crookhaven, Involved in relief 1822, Scathing on absentee tithe holders Rev. Francis Langford, Co. Limerick and his proctor William Switzer and Dr. Traill of Co. Antrim, rector of Schull and his proctor Joseph Baker. He advised Dublin Castle that much of the local recent troubles was due to the severe tyranny and oppression of such petty tyrants. Brother of famous Royal Navy Captain Coughlan who was raising money in 1822 in London for relief. 1822 local Crookhaven fishery committee. Engaged with his crew in marine salvage of Clio out of Crookhaven 1825 awarded £220 by Baron Pennyfeather at Cork Assizes.
Abraham Jagoe, Kinrath Cottage, probably signed anti Catholic petitions 1828 various Protestant Protest meetings. 1822 signed Memorial for new road Crookstown to Bantry. Attending Protestant Conservative Society meeting 1832. Anti-Repeal Meeting, Dunmanway 1845. Dunmanway, married to Dora Evanson daughter of Nathaniel Evanson J.P., Four MIle Water Court, she died 1863. May be same as one above. Son John, rector Schull (received Lord Lieutenant aid for Schull distress 1822 £50. Married Miss Murphy of Newtown, Bantry. 1828. File of letters concerning an allegation from Mathew Fitzpatrick, Chief Constable, Dunmanway, [County Cork], complaining that he has been subjected to unbecoming comments from A Jagoe, magistrate. Includes letter from Fitzpatrick, to Maj W Miller, Inspector General, complaining of Jagoe’s behaviour towards him at Dunmanway Petty Sessions and asserting that he does not have the necessary qualifications and displays partiality. Also letter from Daniel Conner, Manch House, to Fitzpatrick, reassuring him that Mr Whelply and Jagoe are incorrect in their accusations and asserting that Jagoe’s language towards Fitzpatrick was ‘highly unbecoming that of a Gentleman and a Magistrate’. Includes testimony of Mr McMullen.
Lionel John (Counsellor) Fleming -1869), Oldcourt (Reenmorragh), Skibbereen, pre 1823. 1822 local Crookhaven fishery committee. Present at as Counsellor Fleming at enquiry Skibbereen 1823 into enquiry into fatal affray at Castlehaven caused by Rev. Morritt’s tithe extraction. Gave evidence, re Kilmoe Parish 1835 to enquiry to Poor Law Commission. Listed 1838, 1843, at Newcourt, sitting Skibbereen 1850, 1861. Eldest son of Becher Fleming, Newcourt, Middle Temple, London 1815. Subscriber (Ballydevlin) Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837. 1841 election voted Longfield/Leader voting entitlement from Ballydevlin. Member Newcourt Provisional Committee projected Bandon to Bantry Railway 1845. Chairing presentment sessions Ballydehob 1845 as Lionel J. Newcourt. Skibbereen 1847 distress meeting. Attending Railway meeting Drimoleague 1856. Subscriber Projected Cork and Western Mining Company 1844. Probate £1,400, 1869 to Becher L. Fleming, Oldcourt and Rev. Horace Fleming, Kilnagross, Clonakilty.
Bantry
Timothy O’Donovan (1790-1874), 1818, O’Donovan’s Cove, in ruins 1875, Durrus, listed 1838, son of Richard Esq. and Jane d Alexander O’Donovan, Squince. 1820. Memorial to Lord Lieutenant by William Swanton, Gortnagrough, Ballydehob, West Cork. High Constable (Rate and Tax Collector), Barony of West Carbery For Relief on Losses Caused to Him in Banking Collapse when He had transmitted Due Amount to County Treasurer, Leslies, Stephen and Roches Bank, Supported by Lord Bantry and Magistrates Timothy O’Donovan (Durrus), William Hull (Schull), Richard Townsend (Skibbereen), Rev. Edward Jones Alcock (Durrus), Nathaniel Evanson (Durrus), Robert Kenny (Bantry). In 1823 he applied for relief of poor of Ballydehob, which he had founded. Present at enquiry Skibbereen 1823 into enquiry into fatal affray at Castlehaven caused by Rev. Morritt’s tithe extraction. Correspondent with Antiquarian Dr. John O’Donovan re O’Donovans of Carbery. Brother of Dr O’Donovan and Richard O’Donovan J.P. and uncle of Richard O’Donovan J.P.. His son’s wife is grand daughter to Daniel O’Connell, the mother of his wife was a Miss Lavellan, Co. Limerick, a daughter of Philip Lavellin of Water Park in the County of Cork. Her sister was married to Mr. Puxley of Dunboy Branch. The grandson the present (1860) Mr. Puxley is a man of immense wealth the principal owner of the famous Allihies Mines in the Barony of Bere. Signed public declaration in Skibbereen to Alexander O’Driscoll on his removal as Magistrate 1835 with Lord Bantry, Simon White, John Puxley, Arthur Hutchins, Thomas Baldwin, Samuel Townsend Junior and Senior, Thomas Somerville, Richard Townsend Senior, Rev. Alleyn Evanson, Richard Townsend, Lyttleton Lyster. 1835 Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837. In 1838 in the Liberal interest where at Bantry voter registration 15 were registered as opposed to 6 ‘Orangemen’ the tenants of Timothy O’Donovan J.P. were chiefly among those who registered. Among these were probably McCarthys of Tulig later prominent in Nationalist politics of whom John McCarthy (1859-1931) became a leading politician in Nebraska and wrote a poem in praise of Timothy O’Donovan. Attended Great Meeting in Bantry 1840 re Poor Laws. Chaired 1846 distress meeting Bantry on proposition of Father Michael Barry PP Bantry. Landlord and political organiser. Member Election Committee, Rickard Deasy, Clonakilty (later Attorney General) 1855 Member election committee McCarthy Downing, Skibbereen. Juror Cork Spring Assizes 1863. Land record, 1870, Kate O’Donovan, O’Donovan’s Cove, 1,940 acres and Reps Timothy O’Donovan 1,940 acres. 1874, Death at 85 of Timothy O’Donovan, J.P., Esq, O’Donovan Cove, Durrus, West Cork, The Last Survivor of the Ancient House of O’Donovan Bawn or Clann Cahill, Justice of the Peace since 1818 Probate to daughter Mrs Anne Barry, widow, effects £2,000, attended 8, Grand Jury Presentments
Edward Jones Alcock -1842, son and curate of Rev. Mason Alcock. May have lived at Sea Lodge, built old rectory (Glebe House) in 1831. 1822 Lord Lieutenant sends £30 for local distress. 1822 involved in famine relief with Father Quinn. 1822. Local Fishery Committees, Kinsale, Clonakilty, Glandore, Baltimore, Crookhaven For Bantry Timothy O’Donovan J.P., O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus, Michael O’Sullivan, Rev. Edward Jones Alcock, Rector Durrus, John Jagoe later Fishery Commissioner, Michael Murphy, Newtown, Bantry, Rev. M McChean, Bantry, John Sandys Bird. 1820. Memorial to Lord Lieutenant by William Swanton, Gortnagrough, Ballydehob, West Cork. High Constable (Rate and Tax Collector), Barony of West Carbery For Relief on Losses Caused to Him in Banking Collapse when He had transmitted Due Amount to County Treasurer, Leslies, Stephen and Roches Bank, Supported by Lord Bantry and Magistrates Timothy O’Donovan (Durrus), William Hull (Schull), Richard Townsend (Skibbereen), Rev. Edward Jones Alcock (Durrus), Nathaniel Evanson (Durrus), Robert Kenny (Bantry). In 1823 he applied for relief of poor of Ballydehob, which he had founded. He sat on a committee in Bantry in 1824 to petition against the withdrawal of the bounty on linen production as had been agreed in the Act of Union. Involved in proselytising. Father Quinn’s application 16th November 1830 ED1/13/74/2, signed by for Roman Catholics Richard O’Donovan, Timothy O’Donovan, Richard Tobin, Edmond Tobin, Daniel Daly, Richard O’Donovan, John Murphy, John Carthy, Thomas Cormack?, Elias Roycroft, Andrew Caverly, Richard Caverly, Protestants E. Evanson, Richard L. Blair, Thomas Ferguson, Thomas Duklow, Charles Ducklow, John Ducklow. Rev Alcock of the Church of Ireland was asked to consent but declined but his parishioners signed. His proctors, 1833, attempted to seize Father Quin’s bed while mass was being said in is house to secure tithe payment only the intervention of Protestant neighbours stopped it. Durrus Parish Tithes payable to him of which the sum of £320 Sterling is due and payable by the year to the said Reverend Edward Jones Alcock, the composition from the tithes claimable by him as figure of such part of said Parish as is commonly known by the name of Durrus or Parish of KIlcrohane is payable to the Reverend Alcock Vicar of the said Parish the sum of £170. Most of the tithes were the property of Nathaniel Evanson and Alexander O’Driscoll having leases of tithes. So it may be he who sent the proctors otherwise all outstanding tithes collected in one day. Cess payer representative Barony West Carbery 1834.
The labourers not long since employed at the building of a Glebe House for the Protestant Clergyman (Rev. Alcock) were allowed no more more for the work of a day in summer then 6d in the claim then made of them by the clergyman for the tithe, and that without diet, such is the poverty, and so little employment is there for labourers in these parishes that on the occasions referred to some 40 or 50 might be seen coming a considerable distance in search of employment on such terms and moreover understand they were obliged to to be at work before six perhaps at five each morning continue at it until eight, or even later, in the evening, with no diet but those cold and comfortless potatoes boiled in a distant cabin, and eaten by the ditch side or under the scaffolding of the new building. 1839 Gaming Certificate. Father in law Henry Jones 1799-1805, late Rector of Lislee his daughter Frances Jane July 1833 married Rev. Edward James Alcock, 1831 at Kilmacabea.
John Jagoe (probably the Liberal Protestant) 1826 Rent charge assigned 1833 to John O’Connell esq., over Glounathana also named Morgan O’Connell, Merchant, Liverpool, James O’Connell, Merchant, Cork Attorney Timothy Collins. Pigot 1824 places him at Lahern. 1857 Landed Estate Sale with Tenant Listing of Jagoe/O’Connor Estate, Bantry (Knockavolig, Clogeragh, Dereengrenough, East and West Caheragolane, Ardrara) Extended Family Probably include Youngs Fish Merchants Bantry, Dr. O’Connor United Irishman Transported to Australia, John Jagoe Fishery Commissioner Political Liberal, John Jagoe Barrister, Mother Beninga Pioneer Womens Education Townsvile Australia, Dowes and Coughlans of Carrigmanus.
Rev. M. McChean, Rector, Bantry.
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19 Friday Aug 2016
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1822, evidence of Father Jeremiah Malony, Parish Priest, Rosscarbery, West Cork on distress, John Jordan, would have died of hunger but for one Ten-Penny he got for a little Bag of Feathers he used as a Pillow the only Luxury He Could Boast of.
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1822 Distress, Clonakilty, Skibbereen, Schull, Crookhaven, Durrus, Bantry, subsisting on Nettle and Weeds which are picked up in Cornfields, Cows have Starved Carcasses Eagerly Sought After by Poor Starving People, Fever Victims Stretched on Pallets of Straw, Cork Branch of London Relief Society.
At the time the coast of West Cork was one of the most densely populated rural areas in the world.
West Cork History 