Timothy O’Donovan, JP. Durrus, West Cork letter 1841 re family Pedigree to Dr. John O’Donovan, Dublin with Unusual Notation of Name Cross between Apostrophe and Fada in Irish.

O’Donovan’s Cove,

February 1st, 1841

Sir,

Your letter of the 18th last should not have remained unanswered for so long but I was waiting to obtain some additional information on the query pertaining to the family of O’Donovan, The late General Richard O’Donovan, Lieutenant Colonel of the Enniskillen Dragoons, was undoubtedly the Chieftain of the Clann or Sept of O’Donovan. He died at the family seat of Bawnlahan, Barony of Carbery, County of Cork about 11 or 12 years ago. He was married to a Welch lady her name was Powell by whom he had no issue, he left his estate to his wife and upon her death which happened soon after she bequeathed it to her brother a Major Powell a Welch man in whom possession it is at the moment and this ancient seat and property is now in the possession of a Welsh man.

The title of “O’Donovan” was after the General’s death affected by a Protestant Clergyman, Morgan O’Donovan, but the claim was not recognised by the members of the O’Donovan family.

I am myself descended from a branch of the House of O’Donovan, who were obliged to fly the County Cork in the Civil wars of 1641 who took refuge in Co. Limerick, a considerable tract of property was preserved through the intervention of Protestant “Nominees’ who behaved in those olden days with great and fidelity honour to my ancestors.

This seat seat of O’Donovan’s Cove stands in the Parish of Kilcrohane in the Barony of West Carbery and County of Cork. It is my property by inheritance, my younger brother, Doctor O’Donovan who has an independent estate resides at Norton Cottage, Skibbereen and we are both in the Commission of The Peace for the county.

There are several respectable families of the name who do not affix the “‘O” to the name.

I believe we are the two of the Sept of O’Donovan here with the largest landed property in respect of the west of the county.

The most ancient document were in the hands of the late James Donovan, Esq., M.D., of Clonakilty, I know not if they are in the possession of his sons, one of whom is a barrister in London the other is the Clerk of the Crown for Co. Cork, they are my first cousins.

Bawnlahan the family seat of the Chief O’Donovan, is near Skibbereen and is a respectable old seat and demesne.

With respect of the information as to who is the Senior or head of the O’Donovan family at present, I cannot inform you. It is of little import as a matter of courtesy it would be conceded to me by the great majority of of the representative of the Clan but I am not satisfied as to the strict right of my claim, and therefore I would not assume it.

I believe a person of the name of James Donovan, of Coolderrha. Parish of Myross, Barony of Carbery, now reduced to the station of a struggling farmer, though a person of excellent character is the eldest representative of the House of O’Donovan.

I have given you all the information in my power as to the questions in your letter.

I should be most happy to meet you here when I hope we may discuss the pedigree of our ancient family over a glass of good wine.

Yours etc

To:
John O’Donovan,
21, Great Charles Street, Dublin.

Timothy O’Donovans Estate near Bantry on the Muintervara Peninsula, possibly acquired by his grandfather who was at the University of Toulouse about 1750. Timothy O’Donovan was one of the first Catholics to be made a Justice of the Peace, in 1818.

Lt Col Richard O’Donovan
Born Ireland 1768; Major in 6th Dragoons 19 December 1799; Lieutenant-Colonel 2 May 1800; brevet Colonel 25 July 1810; subsequently Major-General 4 June 1813; Lieutenant-General 27 May 1825; died Ireland November 1829.

Son of and Jane Beecher she was between 14 and 16 when he in his 60s married for the second time. He called the house ‘Janeville’ after her.

Timothy O’Donovan (1790–1874), 1818, O’Donovan’s Cove, in ruins 1875, Durrus, listed 1838 , son Richard Esq. and Jane d Alexander O’Donovan, Squince.  Present at enquiry Skibbereen 1823 into enquiry into fatal affray at Castlehaven caused by Rev. Morritt’s tithe extraction. Correspondent with Antiquarian Dr. John O’Donovan re O’Donovans of Carbery.  Brother of Dr O’Donovan and Richard O’Donovan JP and uncle of Richard O’Donovan JP. His son’s wife is grand daughter to Daniel O’Connell, the mother of his wife was a Miss Lavellan, Co. Limerick, a daughter of Philip Lavellan of Water Park in the County of Cork.  Her sister was married to Mr. Puxley of Dunboy Branch. The grandson the present (1860) Mr. Puxley is a man of immense wealth the principal owner of the famous Allihies Mines in the Barony of Bere.  Signed public declaration in Skibbereen to Alexander O’Driscoll on his removal as Magistrate 1835 with Lord Bantry, Simon White, John Puxley, Arthur Hutchins, Thomas Baldwin, Samuel Townsend Junior and Senior, Thomas Somerville, Richard Townsend Senior, Rev. Alleyn Evanson, Richard Townsend, Lyttleton Lyster. 1835 Subscriber Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837.  In 1838 in the Liberal interest where at Bantry voter registration 15 were registered as opposed to 6 ‘Orangemen’ the tenants of Timothy O’Donovan JP were chiefly among those who registered.  Among these were probably McCarthys of Tulig later prominent in Nationalist politics of whom John Mccarthy (1859-1931)became a leading  in Nebraska and wrote a poem in praise of Timothy O’Donovan.  Attended Great Meeting in Bantry 1840 re Poor Laws.  Chaired 1846 distress meeting Bantry on proposition of Father Michael Barry PP Bantry. Landlord and political organiser. Member Election Committee, Rickard Deasy, Clonakilty (later Attorney General) 1855  Member election committee McCarthy Downing, Skibbereen. Juror Cork Spring Assizes 1863.   Land record, 1870, Kate O’Donovan, O’Donovan’s Cove, 1,940 acres and Reps Timothy O’Donovan 1,940 acres. 1874, Death at 85 of Timothy O’Donovan, J.P., Esq, O’Donovan Cove, Durrus, West Cork, The Last Survivor of the Ancient House of O’Donovan Bawn or Clann Cahill, Justice of the Peace since 1818 Probate to daughter Mrs Anne Barry, widow, effects £2,000.

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August 1847, Affray at Letterlickey, Durrus, West Cork arising from Seizure of Cattle, by Landlord Hutchinson.

The Hutchinson Estate was sold some time after in the Landed Estates Court.

1853, Sale of Estate of Arthur Hutchinson, died Intestate of Townlands, Durrus/Bantry, West Cork, of Derrivahallow, Killovinogue, Clonee, Aghoheen, Parkanagh, part Moulavard, Gurtyclona, Letterlickey East, Middle and West, Lead Mines at Killovinlgue and Gurtyclona operational, Three Leases (one 1806 to William Swanton, Ballydehob), held for lives of persons now advanced in Life and a very Considerable Rise is expected on their Falling in, Possible connection to Partial Norman Conquest.

The tithes from this townland appear n the Cathedral Records of St. Finbarrs Cork suggesting it may have been a part of the Norman incursion going late to one of the Waterford Abbeys controlled by the Normans.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE CORK EXAMINER.

Bantry, August 17th, 1847
SIR– At 5 o’clock this morning, I perceived a formidable number of prisoners coming to town. On approaching the crowd, I distinguished a tottering old man, whose head was enveloped in a handkerchief, saturated with blood, handcuffed to two miserable men, just as miserable looking as himself. Three women were suffered to proceed without handcuffs. I enquired who these people were that looked so much like famine skeletons.
The reply was, they were tenants to minor Hutcheson, of Bantry, who is a Magistrate of this county. He went to distrain on the lands of Letterlicke, yesterday, when the prisoners objected to the removal of the cattle, alleging they were replevined, and were to be delivered up when the affair would be legally investigated. The landlord insisted on his claim to the property of these squalid tenants, and persevered in his determination to carry all things off the lands, when an unpleasant Landlord and Tenant meeting took place, all the then available war instruments were employed by the hostile parties, until the landlord considered it much more prudent to retire. He then proceeded to a Magistrate, and had the parties indicted and dragged from their homes in the manner I have described.
At present I shall not trouble you with any remarks, as the case is to come on next Thursday before the Bantry Bench of Magistrates. I would earnestly advise these miserable men and women whom I have seen this day on their way to prison, in a condition I could but inadequately describe, to employ a professional advocate. But their appearance this day almost convinces me they have not the means of doing so. The decision of the Bench in this case is anxiously looked for in this locality.
JEREMIAH O’CALLAGHAN

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Letter Doctor John O’Donovan to Robert McAdam, Soho Foundry Belfast, 1851, in which he states ‘The Catholic Church are Moving Heaven and Earth of Extinguish the Irish Language.

http://www.ricorso.net/rx/az-data/authors/Mc/McAdam_RS/life.htm

FROM DR. JOHN O’DONOVAN, ANTIQUARIAN

Letter to Robert McAdam Esq., Soho Foundry in Belfast from Newcomen Place, Dublin 8 (March, 17th, 1851)

‘Dear Sir,

I have received your note of the 14th and cannot but admire your enthusiasm about the census. I do not think that a clergy of any of our religions could be of any use to us. The Catholic Church clergy are moving heaven and earth to extinguish the Irish language and therefore it would be useless to trust them. The Protestants could not get any true returns and I therefore think we ought to test content with the police returns. Of course most of the Irish speakers will be found in the poor houses! However I shall be in Belfast very soon again to deliver some lectures on the Celtic dialects. I do not believe that you or any other friends there will be able to procure me any pupils, and I am therefore afraid to go live amongst you. When I do see you next I shall tell you various plans of mine for advancing Celtic literature.

Yours very sincerely,

John O’Donovan’

Alexander Donovan, Clonakilty, 1822 Admission Gray’s Inns, 1836 Reporter Court of Common Pleas, London, Judge Dominica, his brother Rickard Donovan, Clerk of the Crown for Co. Cork from 1838 (Equivalent to State Solicitor), Extended family Network by Marriage including Daniel O’Connell and the Puxley Mining Family of Beara.

The O’Connell/Puxley connection is through their uncle Timothy O’Donovan of Durrus. His wife’s mother was Lavellin (an Old Cork family some of whom conformed to the Church of Ireland) one of whom married a Puxley and in 1840 was the grandmother of the then mining magnate.

Gray’s Inns, son James a Doctor late Clonakilty he was probably born O’Donovan’s Cove, Durrus, brother of Timothy O’Donovan, JP and also a JP.

The O’Donovans along with other old Catholic Gentry in West Cork in the early and mid 19th century were associated with Daniel o’Connell, Anti Tithe activity and Repeal.

They were connected politically with Rickard Deasy who was elected and MP in the 1840s late to be Solicitor General and Attorney General for Ireland and A judge. He was of the Clonakilty brewing family connected by marriage to the Protestant Clerke family of Skibbereen tow of the daughter s family as writers and astronomists.

In correspondence between Dr. John O’Donovan and members of the West Cork O’Donovans there is reference to Alexander achieving judicial office in Dominica and dying young.

P.426
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1805, Admission to Gray’s inns, of Cornelius O’Leary, aged 36, Raleigh, Macroom, Co. Cork probably son of Art O’Leary (Art Ó Laoighre) Judicially Murdered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_%C3%93_Laoghaire

P. 408

http://www.archive.org/stream/registeradmissi00inngoog#page/n418/mode/2up

Gray’s Inn (Law Student Training Centre), London, Admission Entry for Daniel O’Connell, 16th April 1795.
Looking at the years around this time there are quite a number of Irish students, to qualify at the Irish Bar it was necessary to attend a number of dinners at one of the four London Inns notwithstanding studies at the King’s Inns.

http://www.archive.org/stream/registeradmissi00inngoog#page/n410/mode/2up

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Various Applications by George King, 3rd Earl of Kingston, Myross (Skibbereen/Rosscarbery), West Cork to Dublin Castle, for Assistance on Public Work Projects mentions Wretchedness, Recent Fever epidemic.
Redmond Barry from nearby Glandore was sometime later appointed Inspector of Fisheries and did much work to develop fisheries in the area.

http://cgoakley.org/efa/1771GK.html

These are precis of papers in the National Archives

http://www.csorp.nationalarchives.ie/search/index.php?simpleSearchSbm=Search&category=27&searchDescTxt=myross&offset=10&browseresults=true