1833, Properties Rented from Protestant Episcopal See of Cork 6 Ploughlands at Kilcrohane 3 Ploughlands at Crookhaven by Richard de La Coer, John Bowen, 9 Ploughlands Schull, Probably Mannions Island Carbery Island. Rev. John E Orpen, Lisheen.


1833, Properties Rented from Protestant Episcopal See of Cork 6 Ploughlands at Kilcrohane 3 Ploughlands at Crookhaven by Richard de La Coer, John Bowen, 9 Ploughlands Schull, Probably Mannions Island Carbery Island.  Rev. John E Orpen , Lisheen.

De la Coer was probably from Mallow and became bankrupt shortly after.

These rentals can be see in the books of St. Finbarr’s Cathedral Cork at the National Archives and the RCB Library Dublin.  Given their location it is possibly they were once the property of the College of Youghal and Norman in origin.

 

 

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/10667/page/238470

 

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Tomb Old Caheragh Graveyard, Skibbereen, West Cork, of Timothy McCarthy Downing, Skibbereen Lawyer, Landlord, Margaret Mary daughter buried died 1868, aged 28 wife of Captain Thomas John Davys, Justice of the Peace Longford, His Brother Roger Downing , Bantry Businessman, Political Activist. Obituary 1873 Charles O’Regan, Esq, 78, Landlord, Ballydehob, A Fine Old Irish Gentleman Uncle of Charles Roycroft, Magistrate, Macroom.


https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#sent/15d4a276e9da9000

 

 

 

Obituary 1873 Charles O’Regan, Esq, 78, Landlord, Ballydehob, A Fine Old Irish Gentleman Uncle of Charles Roycroft, Magistrate, Macroom,

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#sent/15d4a276e9da9000

Tomb Old Caheragh Graveyard, Skibbereen, West Cork, of Timothy McCarthy Downing, Skibbereen Lawyer, Landlord, Margaret Mary  daughter buried died 1868, aged 28 wife of Captain Thomas John Davys, Justice of the Peace Longford,  Roger Downing , Bantry Businessman, Political Activist.

 

Died 1879 Timothy McCarthy Downing Esq Solicitor, MP Prospect House, Skibbereen. Subscriber (5 copies) Dr. Daniel Donovan ‘History of Carbery, 1876. Probate to Rev. Charles Davis, Rosscarberry and Francis Joseph McCarthy, Queenstown Esq two of the Universal Legtees Effect under £9,000. Captain John Thomas Davies, JP, Longford, married Margaret Mary McCarthy Downing d Mccarthy Downing, Skibbereen, solicitor, landlord, MP. died 1868, aged 28 buried Old Caheragh. Landed estate sale of Becher Estate sons, Charles Edward b 1845, Francis Henry named as life in a number of leases b 1846  

 

 

 

 

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Proposing Resolution Bantry Catholic Meeting 1826.  Slater 1846 Tobacco Manufacturer, Main St.  Described as wily Kerryman.  Brother of Timothy McCarthy Downing, born Kenmare, Skibbereen Solicitor, MP. and landowner.  The discovery of this object (The Brahalish Brooch) was first reported to John Windele by one of   He reported the find of the Brahalish Hoard in Durrus to John Windle 1843. In a letter dated 4 January 1843, he states ‘You have at top, the size of the piece of Gold found at Brahalish, 4 Mile Water, it weighs 3⅝ ozs avoirdupois Wt. both ends are in the form of a Cup; with a narrow Carving inside of the edges, the outside of the ends, and the greater part if not the entire of the handle are carved as above;You will perceive by the Size and Wt. of the article that it is not Solid, the oining being visible on the inside of the handle, it appears to be of thepurest gold; I need not say that the finder sets a great value on his God Send; he says he is certain of finding more of it; that he dreamt 30 years since that there was gold hidden where he found this article. It would not astonish me, if he rooted up half his farm in search of the precious metal. If this Article lies in your way and that I can be of any assistance in purchasing it, I am at your service. Comment Windele notes that the finder’s name was Owen Sullivan (referred to as Eugene Sullivan by Roger Downing) and that the find-place was the site of an ancient fort, the article having been found under the root of a hawthorn.

Figures in early 19th century Bantry and West Carbery Politics:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D8UyxgQoDac2ZKy9p64vQFKnAJDcnXTbKZyddFfY1sQ/edit

 

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The Old Mine Road


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Exactly two years ago I wrote a piece for this Journal – A Moment in Time – remarking on the very specific changes that we become aware of at the end of the summer: the holiday homes being closed up and shuttered; the boats being taken off their moorings and stored away in the boatyard; the shorebirds returning to their winter quarters. I finished up by pointing out that our own summers never end: we enjoy living in Cappaghglass just as much in the darker, colder days at the turning of the year as we do when the sun is high in the heavens.

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Top – starting point: Rossbrin Cove on a gray day. Bottom – The Old Mine Road wearing its raincoat

It is an idyllic life and we are privileged to have the quiet boreens to ourselves in all weathers. We have talked about Rossbrin Cove so often…

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1862. Sale in Landed Estates Court of Charles Evanson Estate, 5 Gneeves at Gurteneas (Akahista, name reputedly given by Kilcrohane Poet Aonghus Ó Dalaigh), Bantry, Including Tenant Listing Richard Tobin of ‘King Tobin Family Kilcrohane, former tenant Dr. Daniel O’Donovan. 1862. Including Tenant Listing Richard Tobin of ‘King Tobin Family Kilcrohane, former tenant Dr. O’Donovan.


1862.  Sale in Landed Estates Court of Charles Evanson Estate, 5 Gneeves at Gurteneas (Akahista, name reputedly given by Kilcrohane Poet Aonghus Ó Dalaigh), Bantry, Including Tenant Listing Richard Tobin of ‘King Tobin Family Kilcrohane, former tenant Dr. Daniel O’Donovan. 1862.

Ó Dalaigh from Dinny O’Regan Rosnacaheragh from his father.

One of the tenants listed is Richard Tobin, this was likely of the King Tobin family Kilcrohane, one small part of their  property portfolio:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13bW08jLMERwfI5cGHHxXfd4IIHkBbpMYfJBmXA9ROX0/edit

Legal Tenure of some of Durrus District Townlands:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ASX2u0qoIxsBW1YhlYSawdLX2Y_XpL_vXcpblsgApXY/edit#gid=0

Dr. Daniel O’Donovan 1818, Norton Cottage, Skibbereen, listed 1838, son Richard Esq. O’Donovan Cove, and Jane d Alexander O’Donovan, Squince.  Fond of dogs.  Father of Dr. O’Donovan author History of Carbery.  Brother of Timothy and Richard O’Donovan JP and uncle of Richard O’Donovan JP. Daniel O’Donovan MD has land in Knockeens, Glanroon in Griffiths.  Rented Ahakista Cottage fro Charles Evanson.  He was married to a sister of Rickard Deasy of the Clonakilty brewing family, MP. and Attorney General for Ireland and later Judge. Subscriber at Woodview, Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland  1837.

O’Donovan Family:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eq_IayaxdUyWZWbpDf6LWlLNg7o-3tNJiqPGYIALy80/edit

Charles Evanson Senior, 1793.  Died 1828 Charlemont, Douglas, son of Nathaniel Evanson, Durrus.  Married Harriett Allen 1782, renting Ronaynes Court, Douglas from Christopher 1805.  Sheriff 1793. Admitted his brother Nathaniel JP, as Freeman of Cork on St. Valentine’s Day, 1794.  Alderman, Sheriff and Mayor of Cork 1804.  Named c 1800 in Quaker records as Church Warden, Christ Church Cork re extracting tithes.  His eldest son in 1811 Rev. William Alleyn married the sister of the Provost of TCD, Lyndon MacDonnell.  Listed in tree register as having planted 1,100 trees in Durrus/Kilcrohane likely his 5 gneeves at Gurteneas Ahakista.   Voted for Hutchinson 1826 election. 1924.   Member Hanover Association meeting Cork 1791 re Whiteboys.  Funded personally relief work Douglas in 1820 petitioned Chief Secretary for more resources.  Donor to two Catholic Churches 1826 including building of Rosnacaheragh Catholic Church, Durrus, died Ronaynes Court, August 1828.

Charles Evanson Junior, 1827son of Charles JP, Lord Mayor Cork, Royayne’s Court, Douglas.  1818 late Sheriff, Cork. 1825 Director Cork Coalyard. Member 1832 Cork Friendly Club.  Listed 1835. Thanked by Independent Liberal Electors for Impartiality in 1835 elections. 1840 calling for Testimonial to late William Crawford Cork benefactor.  in 1835 a rent charge of Durrus lands by Nathaniel Evanson entitling him to vote as £20 freeholder.  Attending 1840 Great Meeting Bantry re Poor Law.  Attending Famine Relief Meeting Dunmanway 1846. Presentment sessions Ballydehob 1845 address Charlemont.    Skibbereen 1847 distress meeting. Assisting 1848 Henry J. Fawcett, Practical Instructor on Husbandry of Visit to Bantry.  Cork Quarter Sessions 1856.  His son Richard Charles Evanson, RM, Probate 1902 of Mrs. Henrietta Allen Coghlan, widow, Shanagrague, Co. Cork, to Richard retired RM, £624.  1856 passed into Military College Sandhurst, only son of Charles Evanson, JP, Charlemont, Cork, ed Mr. Moynahan.  listed 1842,1843, Son? Charles sitting Douglas 1850, voted 1850 for Denis Galwey as High Constable for Ibane and Ballyroe (Clonakilty).  Estates in Douglas and 5 gneeves at Gurteneas, Ahakista sold Landed estates Court in Chancery 1849 and sold 1862.  1856 at the Military College, Sandhurst, four only out of 38 passed. Mr. RICHARD CHARLES EVANSON, of Charlemont, only son of CHARLES EVANSON, Esq., J.P., as one of the successful who passed with distinguished credit. He has been under tuition with Mr. T. Moynihan.  Sitting Passage West, 1835.

 

1824, Half Pay Officers (On £40 a year) from Napoleonic Wars, Bantry, Clonakilty, Macroom and Skibbereen District, Daniel O’Connell 1828 Stating Most of Deposits adn Share in Bank of Ireland Held by Catholics but Only Four Catholic Trainees.


1824, Half Pay Officers from Napoleonic Wars Bantry District.

The initial HP is half pay.  Lieutenant Daniel O’Donovan may have been the last survivor of the Irish Brigades.  After the French Revolution they were give the option of transferring en masse to the British Army retaining their rank.

Post Napoleonic War Officers on Half Pay Bantry, West Cork 1824 and Lieutenant Daniel O’Donovan, Keelevenougue, last of the Irish Brigade d 1830s.

On the Catholic Gentry and Middle Class in 1828 some months before he was elected to the British Parliament, Daniel O’Connell giving evidence to a Select Committee said that most of the cash on deposit and most of the shares in the Bank of Ireland was held by Catholics.   He was complaining that of the management staff only four trainees were Catholic. This was an enormous change. c 1780 a listing of the Bank of Ireland shareholders shower the La Touche family as the largest with over 20% followed by the great landed magnates.

Pigot’s Directory lists,
Lieutenant Stephen Bourke, Chief Constable, North-street,

Lieutenant Thomas Bourke, Surgeon half Pay, Blackrock Road. (it may have been with him that JJ Callanan the poet stayed and composed ‘Gougan Barra’

Ensign William Carey, Ensign, Chapel Hill,
Lieutenant James Cooke, Blackrock Road,

Lieutenant David Kirby, Strand,
Lieutenant William Mccarthy, Caheir Daniel,
Lieutenant Daniel O’Donovan, Keelevenouge, area on north of Muintervara peninsula opposite Beara where Carew embarked re Siege of Dunboy. He when he died it was said he was the last of the Irish Brigade. He was probably a relative of Timothy O’Donovan, of O’Donovan’s Cove, on the Peninsula a small landowner and one of the first Catholic Magistrates,
Lieutenant H Pottinger, Main-street,
Lieutenant William Ratcliffe, North-street.

The Bantry historian Paddy O’Keeffe said there were 12 half pay officers in Bantry in the period.

Before the French Revolution many of the old Gaelic families sent their sons to serve in the various Continental Irish Brigades. This changed with the French Revolution and the relaxing of the Penal Laws. From around 1790 many young men from this class joined the British Army or Navy.

In a somewhat disparaging remark in the Kenmare Estate papers 1760 (online Irish Manuscript Commission, it was said of the Catholic Middle men that they rack rent their tenants, have no interest in improving only in getting daughters married, sons in the Irish brigade or as priests.

In the Bantry area and Kerry many of the old families continued on the Bantry and Kenmare and Petty Estates as agents or middle men.

Military Service some West Cork personnel:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqhnQGE3ANjzdEY1U09tUm4zUWNvcFBmTllEdVZMaEE#gid=0

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1810, 1831, 1840, 1846Dr. Thomas Burke1824, Surgeon, HP, Blackrock-road (NGC). Possible The Square, 1810 Thomas Burke Half Pay Surgeon married Margaret McCarthy, (1784-1831), possibly through her he acquired lands at Caheragh, she was likely of the Muclaghs (Clann Tighe Roe Scartaigh) and the lands from McCarthy Gurtnascreena.May be from Caheragh the person that poet JJ Callanan stayed with for around 2 years when he wrote Gougan Barra and Lamesnt to Morty Oge. memorial to Father Walsh PP leaving Bantry. Attending Great Meeting re Poor Law in 1840, Bantry, gave a speech promoting reclamation of waste, mine development, employment rather than charity. 1846 distress meeting Bantry.1832 contacted fever attending Cholera Hospital Bantry voteof thanks by John Y. Kingston.Southern Reporter and Cork Commercial Courier 28 April 1831.Viscount Berehaven expressed regret in 1841 at his resignation for 15 yearas as Dispensary Docotr.The 1815 lArmy ist and from it I find that Thomas Burke joined the army on the 14th August 1808. His rank was Assistant Surgeon. He served in the 1st Garrison Battalion which most likely was based in Ireland (They manned the home Garrisons, Kinsale, Bantry etc) He was disbanded from the service in 1814 on the cessation of hostilities with France and the surrender of Napoleon.He appears to have been on 72% pay. Army surgeons often had no real medical training and they learned as they went. The saw was one of their main instruments. Thomas Burke did not go to Trinity but perhaps had some Medical Training in such place as the College of Surgeons. It might be worth contacting them.Possibly Thomas Burke MD, Skibbereen, died 1859 estate £1,500 executors James Crowley Merchant Cork, Father Francis Casey, Curate, North Parish Cork.

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